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- Thread starter ChiTownBuffalo
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nah, avatar was bad
sequential art and two kinds are cute though
That doesn't count, they had to make him one of those stupid blue things for them to be together.
Size difference though creeps me out.
Black-Wind
Member
Thanks! :]
Triple Da G.O.D!
Member
Promiscuity makes everything better.
Well I think she may have gone overboard in some of her videos. Topless and all.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
What is this thread, I don't even...
a surprise party in your honor
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
It feels so random.
Although it seems furrygaf is more or less accepted lukewarm vs. ponygaf.
Although it seems furrygaf is more or less accepted lukewarm vs. ponygaf.
it was bound to happen.
Triple Da G.O.D!
Member
That's not overboard. It's perfectly OK within the boundaries of which there are none.
Neoriceisgood
Member
What's the definition of "furry" anyway?
I ike furry art. Because that I read a lot o furry web comics, like:
Sabrina online: http://www.sabrina-online.com/
Neko the kitty: http://www.nekothekitty.net/
bear nuts: http://www.bearnutscomic.com/
Bittersweet Candy Bowl: http://www.bittersweetcandybowl.com/
And I enter in this thread only to see the good furry images that people put here.
Sabrina online: http://www.sabrina-online.com/
Neko the kitty: http://www.nekothekitty.net/
bear nuts: http://www.bearnutscomic.com/
Bittersweet Candy Bowl: http://www.bittersweetcandybowl.com/
And I enter in this thread only to see the good furry images that people put here.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
ChiTownBuffalo
Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
I, for one, learned alot more about furries in a constructive way than I ever thought possible. And although there is a segment of the furry community that I will never quite understand, furries as a whole are certainly more well defined in my eyes.
Thank you Furry-GAF.
Thank you Furry-GAF.
ChiTownBuffalo
Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
It was more like moving them from on column to another column.
Let's just say the column they were in, is inhabited by:
I had to google it to see what got that reaction, and I'm severly dissapointed. I expected something weird
You misled me.
Furries sticking their butthole up at me and being covered in cum is pretty damn weird.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Oh and here's Rouen. Such a boss, he's a pirate AND a king, and he's voiced by Doggie too!
I find it funny that the manly characters in the more recent Shining games are furries.
I find it funny that the manly characters in the more recent Shining games are furries.
CHEEZMO
Obsidian fan
CHEEZMO
Obsidian fan
He missed his Synthol shipment this month.
ZombieSupaStar
Member
gaf bans for a lot more than in the past.
Neoriceisgood
Member
Okay and now how about some art that's not meant to be sexualized in any way at all?
Snkfanatic
Banned
I read Usagi Yojimbo....am I a furry?
All kidding aside the Furry culture while not for me does not bother me in the slightest. This thread has been a interesting read
All kidding aside the Furry culture while not for me does not bother me in the slightest. This thread has been a interesting read
Yes. You're OG.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
The one twist there is that a lot of people will say something that's meant to look cute or appealing in an adult way is "sexualized". See: any picture of a female anthro animal ever that has anything resembling boobs, even if the character is dressed like a nun head to toe.
The term for "furry" was coined around 1989 among comic book artists who were drawing anthro animals for adults - note that means stuff like Yojimbo, as well as "adult" in any kind of cheesecake sense. Ironically, one of the original reasons so many artists began making grown up anthro characters was to break out, and for variety - it was simply more interesting than trying to be the 100th guy drawing Wolverine to get a job at Marvel Comics. And many of the indie comics at the time, were just imitations of big-name comics, so didn't stand out. One could say stuff like TMNT was a precursor to the minor explosion of anthro animal art and comics in the US, especially on the west coast.
The general definition of furry still remains, people who are fans of anthro. That's about it. Originally, for a few years, there was the term "furry lifestyler" which was used non-ironically to denote someone who had a personal anthro persona and was into the furry "scene" as a Star Trek geek might be a full time Trek convention goer. As with any group, there was controversy and debate over just what the difference really was.
With the huge influx of young people thanks to the Internet spreading the furry meme, I don't think "lifestyler" is used much anymore except in small pools of fandom culture. Most people haven't even heard of it.
One reason why you see controversy whenever "furry" gets mentioned on the Internet, is the early 2000s Internet shock culture like Something Awful did a great job of spreading the meme that "furry" denoted, exclusively, people who make anthro animal costumes and have sex in them. That's it. Or, it denoted, exclusively, people who practiced beastiality on farm animals or pets. Their anthro characters online wuz the secret code they used to hook up!
A few folks in the thread brought up the "why are furries so defensive" thing, which, has always been a bit of misdirection because it's usually phrased as a loaded question: "why are furries so defensive about their *fetish* when other *fetish* groups hide in shame..." One shouldn't have to explain what a ridiculously fallacious line of reasoning that is, but... furry fans in the primary fandom have a reputation for freaking out. And it's true. But if you stop and consider what's behind it, there is a genuine point of contention. A lot of furry fans protest because they flack pitched at them assumes that liking anthro characters (of any kind) is itself a sexual fetish. If the furry fandom was in reality its stereotype, it ironically would probably do better. It could go hook up with the other adult sensual/sexual hobbies like BDSM and find some solidarity. The problem, ironically, arises from the fact that despite all of its problems, the fandom as a group is too complex for what it is typically dismissed as.
I actually have understanding for people who think that the furries are exclusively a group of fringe fetish fans, because the fandom, as an organization, is pretty unbalanced in the current era IMHO. On one hand, adult should not give a flying frack what other adults' fun buttons are, and people are too sheltered and uptight about stuff like that. On the other hand, when the largest online communites and cultural epicenters for the American furry fandom are largely porn sites that is steeped deeply in fetish culture, yet there's so many people who would consider themselves furries/anthro fans that are interested in much more than just that... there is a deep imbalance.
It is a reason why I suspect we're going to see something else, and more broad, assimilate what people think of as the furry culture over the next few years. The hard truth is that during the furry internet explosion, a lot of the kids who joined up where, statistically speaking, likely to have already been fringe lurkers and a lot of them had problems. Some actually used furry to get better, having found a way to socialize. Others, well, didn't do so hot. But, as an interested observer, I have noticed over the last couple years, with a much larger portion of the population online, folks who discover anthro stuff and go "hey, I kind of like it" are coming from a wider pool of personalities. It's actually an optimistic trend. They're also bringing more actual talent to the subculture, so the quality of furry media is in fact, going up.
While I'm typing too much, I will say one thing about that last angle, the media: furry has a reputation for creating and promoting terrible art, and there is a specific reason for that: until recently, the primary motivation of furry fans was simply to create content that served the purpose of displaying something anthro. This is not really different from any kind of fan art, at the root. Fans who make stuff just want to see their dream object made real, they don't necessarily have any aspiration to be good at it. So fans are far more forgiving of a piece of art that's technically poor, if it highlights their favorite subject (or obsession). What outsiders often don't get about the furry fans, is that the fandom is heavily "do it yourself". It is largely about content creation, and there's a huge push to make stuff rather than just consume. The downside is that during its internet explosion stage, it had no standards. Furries just wanted to see anthro animals at any cost, because such characters oriented at adults - even in a non sexual way - were rare in media. So the fandom developed a culture of rewarding people for making any kind of art (or writing) period.
That is actually changing too, though slowly. There are a lot of people who either already have real ability when they show up, or existing fans who want to get good.
CHEEZMO
Obsidian fan
Beat me to it.
Animated characters, male or female, are 99% of the time are going to be designed to be as nice to look at as possible. Happens in any medium - videogames are a particularly noteworthy example, as they often take this pretty far.
On an unrelated note:
Crossing the streams!! Hwuahahahaha
How does his head fit into the helmet?
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Real manly anthros work out and not apply chemicals!
Apparently it's magic. It was asked in-show and he just dismissed the question.
Also Japan enjoys Doggie shirtless a lot. He appears shirtless for his stock Dekamaster change, and a lot of the episodes have him without his jacket. Even in Dekaranger vs. Abaranger he has that moment where Yukito/AbareBlue massages him on a chair.
Prax
Member
^ But nothing too terrible has been shown yet! Maybe you should read through the thread! It's both informative and entertaining?
I will show you one of my favouritest furry artists ever~!
Tracy Butler~! ( http://tracyjb.deviantart.com )
She used to draw a lot of fantasy furry art 10 years ago and I found her on Yerf.com:
It was amazing to me at the time, but she slowly moved away from furry art and focused on turning all her characters human.. I guess she just got tired of drawing animals or of the furry scene:
But then she moved back to drawing cats cuz cats are cool! Her Lackadaisy cast are gangster cats set in prohibition era!:
Her cast as humans:
I think the best part is that she is totally competent in drawing humans and animals and anthros, and can use traditional and digital mediums. So good.
Then again, she draws non-erotica, so I take her more seriously than most artists that do nothing but fanservice.
That comes to the point of fanservice works.. a lot of it is not taken seriously, because you know.. that's generally shallow wank material. That's what people think of when they think of furry art, unfortunately.
Ooh.. I also found these old things I did: A mix of two often-hated genres, Furries + Anime! They were designed as part of an anime club mascot competition. Haha!
I will show you one of my favouritest furry artists ever~!
Tracy Butler~! ( http://tracyjb.deviantart.com )
She used to draw a lot of fantasy furry art 10 years ago and I found her on Yerf.com:
It was amazing to me at the time, but she slowly moved away from furry art and focused on turning all her characters human.. I guess she just got tired of drawing animals or of the furry scene:
But then she moved back to drawing cats cuz cats are cool! Her Lackadaisy cast are gangster cats set in prohibition era!:
Her cast as humans:
I think the best part is that she is totally competent in drawing humans and animals and anthros, and can use traditional and digital mediums. So good.
Then again, she draws non-erotica, so I take her more seriously than most artists that do nothing but fanservice.
That comes to the point of fanservice works.. a lot of it is not taken seriously, because you know.. that's generally shallow wank material. That's what people think of when they think of furry art, unfortunately.
Ooh.. I also found these old things I did: A mix of two often-hated genres, Furries + Anime! They were designed as part of an anime club mascot competition. Haha!
CHEEZMO
Obsidian fan
Sweet post.
This is amazing!
Also, am I the only one getting Paul Newman(?) vibes from that guy in the centre?
I recommend people do this. Thread's interesting.
Her cast as humans:
This is amazing!
Also, am I the only one getting Paul Newman(?) vibes from that guy in the centre?
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Speaking of furry comics... what about professionally made ones? These ones are made by comic book artists, and are all critically acclaimed. Yes, they fit the notions of a typical furry stuff, but hey, it just shows you how sometimes things can be surprising.
Blacksad is awesome (a sample page)
...and so is Grandville! (another sample page)
Both are published by Dark Horse comics.
Blacksad is a French graphic novel released around mid 2000's. It has 3 volumes and its collected in English by Dark Horse. A fourth volume has been released recently but so far only in French.
Grandville is a British graphic novel released last year. A sequel has been released this year as well.
Blacksad is awesome (a sample page)
...and so is Grandville! (another sample page)
Both are published by Dark Horse comics.
Blacksad is a French graphic novel released around mid 2000's. It has 3 volumes and its collected in English by Dark Horse. A fourth volume has been released recently but so far only in French.
Grandville is a British graphic novel released last year. A sequel has been released this year as well.
Acerac
Banned
^ But nothing too terrible has been shown yet! Maybe you should read through the thread! It's both informative and entertaining?
I will show you one of my favouritest furry artists ever~!
Tracy Butler~! ( http://tracyjb.deviantart.com )
But then she moved back to drawing cats cuz cats are cool! Her Lackadaisy cast are gangster cats set in prohibition era!:
That picture is awesome, I may need to do more research in to her works.
First of all, applause for the post.
Second, I think something partially complicating this issue is the fact that good artists, rightfully, want to make money for their work. At that point you're making what those with money want, and they kinda want a lot of porn. Especially if you're offering artwork that's in the wish/fantasy fulfillment arena. So that both aggravates the "furry is all porn" perspective and hides a lot of quality artists from outside observers, 'cause they're obviously not going to look at furry porn to find examples of quality illustration when there's plenty of ways to not have to do that.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
You are correct sir, this is a big part of it.
There have been attempts to start (restart) non-erotic furry fandom art archives online, but they don't tend to stick around for a variety of reasons, some of which have to do with the organizers and some with the fans themselves. For instance, the biggest of the furry sites, that have both mainstream and fandom kink oriented content, enjoys the Facebook Effect: all the fans are already on it. Nobody really wants to leave it because that's where their friends are. Social media dynamics affect subcultures too.
But the cost here is that so far, nobody's been able to get a site that doesn't require wading through porn, to stick in the modern age. In my personal opinion, there are a lot of fans who, while otherwise harmless, kind of have their heads in the sand about the consequences of Furry Facebook (tm) sites looking like porn sites, complete with flashing banner ads for adult products.
You didn't really think cats were just laying on keyboards did you? They are, in fact, superb four-foot touch typists.
(Is your cat a furry? It's more common than you think!)