Professor Beef
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he's a samurai bro, that's what they do. didn't you watch the last samurai starring oscar-winner tom cruise?
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Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance (Post-MGS4, Mr Dec 13) [Kamiya NOT Director, New Info]
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he's a samurai bro, that's what they do. didn't you watch the last samurai starring oscar-winner tom cruise?
Rahxephon91
Banned
Isn't she freelance? She is a she right?
Buckethead
Banned
The 2nd pic is early/pre-release MGS4.
The final Raiden in MGS4 looked much improved over that image you posted.
Neither his lips/jaw were black in the final game.
This is the only one I could find:
badcrumble
Member
And Kojima can focus on making MGS5. Everybody wins. MGS5, MG Rising Revengeance (lol), and Bayonetta 2: everybody wins.
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Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
No
Not having a metal gear trailer ooze melodrama was the most refreshing thing about it
Auto_aim1
MeisaMcCaffrey
Yeah she is a freelance composer.
ULTROS!
People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
That doesn't mean it's not going to be composed by Yoko.
Dream: Music composed by Yoko, Battle system and action scenes by PG (in order to fulfill real fast time action), Graphics and everything else (except the release date) by Square Enix Team 1.
don't kill me kagari!
Catalix
And on the sixth day the LORD David Bowie created man and woman in His image. And he saw that it was good. On the seventh day the LORD created videogames so that He might take the bloody day off for once.
Devastating news for me
Before today, the much talked about "hunter stealth" gameplay was the number one thing keeping me interested in the project. But apparently, the old team were having a hard time combining the game's action and sleath mechanics into a fun, compelling whole.
Oh well, I still believe the original concept itself had potential. If only it had been in more capable hands...
AcceptableGhost
Member
Yeah, I hope they have the Bayonetta Start + Right Trigger super quick skip option still there for the cutscenes too.
I think I prefer PG making their own games rather than just being an outsourcing outlet. Bayonetta was awesome. I thoroughly enjoyed it but I prefer companies making their own games, especially when it comes to franchises that I support.Maybe you can pretend that Raiden is Dante and its real title Devil May Cry Rising.
Other than that, what if Versus XIII was being developed by PG?
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
So, if this takes place after MGS4, how is he still a cyborg?
That doesn't mean it's not going to be composed by Yoko.
Dream: Music composed by Yoko, Battle system and action scenes by PG (in order to fulfill real fast time action), Graphics and everything else (except the release date) by Square Enix Team 1.
don't kill me kagari!
Shimomura probably finished the score to VS. XIII like 5 years ago so she's free to do whatever.
badcrumble
Member
He's still a cyborg at the end of MGS4. He just gets 'normal' limbs instead of his former super-strong enhanced ones. He can still go back to being super-strong in the future.
I mean, unless I missed a scene in the ending where someone was like "hey Raiden here's the freezer where we've been keeping your old arms and legs."
that's better
if it went all out turn based rpg, yes.
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Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
He was still a cyborg at the end of 4
He just had prosthetic casings over his robot parts
If you look close you can see the unnatural lines on his body(like his mouth)
badcrumble
Member
he's not doing that, though
OK, I know miladesn is listening to the podcast now, so he will certainly pick up a few more details, but here's what I remember:
Korekado (the new project manager, you remember him from the "fight" he had with Kojima in the MGS4 making off video) implicitly says that the project failed because of the previous director, he didn't have a clear vision for the game design. And they did the mistake of starting working on the story, mocap, etc... just based on the "cut anything" gimmick. They tried to add gameplay elements, but it always felt not enough to make a game. They made multiple prototypes, but it never really worked.
The project was once cancelled (? 中止 in Japanese?), and then Kojima invited Platinum to Kojima Prod, and asked Korekado to make a presentation in front of Minami and Inaba
They gave the previous plot to Platinum, but Platinum ended up asking to write it all again from scratch. Therefore, it went from between MGS 2 and 4, to after MGS4. Writing the script took 2 months (instead of 10 months with the previous failed project).
They will an interview from Kojima and Inaba posted online on Wednesday (Iwata asks??) to give more details.
They were playing a demo of the game during the podcast, and they said Platinum added a gameplay element. Since you can cut anything, thy added something that would allow you to enjoy the "taste" of that freedom (??? Drink or eat the enemies???)
Enemies are cyborgs, and that red liquid is not blood but some kind of cyborg oil
Korekado (the new project manager, you remember him from the "fight" he had with Kojima in the MGS4 making off video) implicitly says that the project failed because of the previous director, he didn't have a clear vision for the game design. And they did the mistake of starting working on the story, mocap, etc... just based on the "cut anything" gimmick. They tried to add gameplay elements, but it always felt not enough to make a game. They made multiple prototypes, but it never really worked.
The project was once cancelled (? 中止 in Japanese?), and then Kojima invited Platinum to Kojima Prod, and asked Korekado to make a presentation in front of Minami and Inaba
They gave the previous plot to Platinum, but Platinum ended up asking to write it all again from scratch. Therefore, it went from between MGS 2 and 4, to after MGS4. Writing the script took 2 months (instead of 10 months with the previous failed project).
They will an interview from Kojima and Inaba posted online on Wednesday (Iwata asks??) to give more details.
They were playing a demo of the game during the podcast, and they said Platinum added a gameplay element. Since you can cut anything, thy added something that would allow you to enjoy the "taste" of that freedom (??? Drink or eat the enemies???)
Enemies are cyborgs, and that red liquid is not blood but some kind of cyborg oil
I think it's good to mix it up in a good way (i.e. not like Acid did which was extremely slow and difficult). We've had stealth gameplay in Metal Gear since...well, the beginning. Raiden isn't about stealth anymore. I find it really odd that people are harping on the crazy action of the game, it's like they didn't see the Raiden cutscenes in MGS4 or haven't been paying attention to even the previous version of Rising.
He's actually making mgs5? I must have missed the news. That's disappointing.
Harharhar...
In all seriousness, I hope we get the game by the end of 2012. A Wii U port would be lovely.
solid snake is back baby and this time he's suffering from rapid un-aging
badcrumble
Member
I dunno about MGS5, though IIRC there have been rumors about that, but he's explicitly said he isn't working on the ZoE series for now.
Oh my. The secret director is IGA.
Or Nintendo's Xenoblade...oh, wait.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
I see. Haven't played 4 in forever. Thought he somehow got human parts again, not like that would be a stretch in this universe.
yes, but nintendo wouldn't have made xenoblade in this alternate reality.
think about it.
Bayonetta comes in and fucks his shit up.
Gouda Jouji
Member
Is this from HIDERADIO or whatever it's called now? Most of this was covered in the English KP Report... the enemies being all cyborgs wasn't though. Looking forward to the interview and extended trailer next week.
matrix-cat
Member
Sorry if this has already been brought up, but can I get odds on this guy being Vamp:
The lock of hair hanging over his face, the almost-goatee, the scar in the middle of his forehead, rivalry with Raiden... I guess maybe Vamp was in the old Rising set pre-MGS4 and maybe they just kept the idea when Platinum came on board and changed the setting.
EDIT - k, guess Tinypic isn't working any more. I'm talking about the guy who slices the tank gunner in half and fights Raiden on the train.
The lock of hair hanging over his face, the almost-goatee, the scar in the middle of his forehead, rivalry with Raiden... I guess maybe Vamp was in the old Rising set pre-MGS4 and maybe they just kept the idea when Platinum came on board and changed the setting.
EDIT - k, guess Tinypic isn't working any more. I'm talking about the guy who slices the tank gunner in half and fights Raiden on the train.
I listened to English podcast:
http://www.konami.jp/kojima_pro/radio/the_report/the_report_152.mp3
here is a summary
gameplay is 100% Platinum Games, Story and cutscenes done by Kojima Productions. They go and check out with other, making sure characters and world are presented correctly in the game as it should be in Metal Gear universe.
they talk a lot about game's development, you should listen if you're interested.
They want to go all out with action, crazy scenes that you haven't seen in the series from Kojipro before.
The old MGS Rising story was set between 2 and 4, but when they decided to go to platinum they decided that it was limiting and changed it to set after MGS4. PG's game design demanded the story to be changed, gameplay comes first etc. They think it was a good decision.
About Zan-Datsu:
It was a a concept revealed in E3 2010, it's now taken away, they think it slows you down, you still cut thing as you see but it's different than the concept shown in E3 2010. "Gameplay comes first" again.
Who's the director?
When talking about director at PG, Kamiya is the first name to come up but he's not directing, they are unable to reveal it yet but they have great talent there for action games, it's a great team there etc.
This time the whole work flow is toward English, they will be releasing English trailers first, game is directed more to western audiences, they try to develop with that in mind. Even if game design can not be released in Japan that's fine, western gamers come first. Talking about shooters etc and how it's the biggest market. They are aiming for a global market.
This doesn't mean they are copying western games, they are making what they want, it's still a Japanese made game, but they had that in mind. They are making games, games that are fun, but thinking who will find it fun.
http://www.konami.jp/kojima_pro/radio/the_report/the_report_152.mp3
here is a summary
gameplay is 100% Platinum Games, Story and cutscenes done by Kojima Productions. They go and check out with other, making sure characters and world are presented correctly in the game as it should be in Metal Gear universe.
they talk a lot about game's development, you should listen if you're interested.
They want to go all out with action, crazy scenes that you haven't seen in the series from Kojipro before.
The old MGS Rising story was set between 2 and 4, but when they decided to go to platinum they decided that it was limiting and changed it to set after MGS4. PG's game design demanded the story to be changed, gameplay comes first etc. They think it was a good decision.
About Zan-Datsu:
It was a a concept revealed in E3 2010, it's now taken away, they think it slows you down, you still cut thing as you see but it's different than the concept shown in E3 2010. "Gameplay comes first" again.
Who's the director?
When talking about director at PG, Kamiya is the first name to come up but he's not directing, they are unable to reveal it yet but they have great talent there for action games, it's a great team there etc.
This time the whole work flow is toward English, they will be releasing English trailers first, game is directed more to western audiences, they try to develop with that in mind. Even if game design can not be released in Japan that's fine, western gamers come first. Talking about shooters etc and how it's the biggest market. They are aiming for a global market.
This doesn't mean they are copying western games, they are making what they want, it's still a Japanese made game, but they had that in mind. They are making games, games that are fun, but thinking who will find it fun.
Yes it's from the Hideradio podcast. To be honest, I haven't listened to the recent KP reports in English. When was the last one released?
MuddyDonut
Member
If you pay attention he does the same thing to a Gekko in a later scene and it is in a slow motion like state. So the enemies can't react because Raiden is striking them too fast.
CosmicGroinPull
Member
D'awwwww..... I like convoluted plots.
Gouda Jouji
Member
Today, like the HIDERADIO it's Rising related. They probably went up simultaneously. It had Kore-P on it as well but he was dubbed in English.
Oh i see. It's great that they're giving out information at the same time in both languages with the 2 podcasts
Blast Processing
Member
The thing I'm most troubled by is the moving of the plot from the time between MGS2 and MGS4 to post-MGS4. Wasn't the whole point to show how Raiden became a cybernetic ninja badass?
Maybe they'll eventually go back and cover that in a Vita game or something....
Maybe they'll eventually go back and cover that in a Vita game or something....
Professor Beef
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They could always have a flashback chapter in the middle of the game. Or hell, start the game with the flashback as a tutorial, and slowly build it up over the course of the game.
This isn't definitive, since shinkawa said that the canon story is that raiden in mgs4 is nothing but a head and spine. The end of MGS4 could have been his head and spine being "re-attached" to a real body. That would be the reason why he had the marking around his jaw on down to the rest of his body, mgs4 raiden didn't have a jaw.
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Retro_
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Do people really care about that though? I know I don't
RyanardoDaVinci
Member
He's a cyborg at the end of MGS4; the lines mark around where both arms attach to the shoulders and he has the plug holes lining his spine.