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The fire of PROMETHEUS has been stolen and leaked to us mortals.
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terminallyChill
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Sunshine better than Moon. What are you people talking about?!
Linky plox.
It's certainly worth your time.
Yeah, I'm having a hard time with that assertion.
Zoramon089
Banned
I agree with this. Call me a rebel if you want
Ugh forget it, the Sunshine that's on Netflix is a three-hour holocaust film with Ralph Fiennes in it. How disappointing.
Watching Pandorum instead. Hopefully Dennis Quaid just plays Gordon Cooper again.
Yes yes, everyone hates the last third, but the first 2/3 are so fucking amazing. And the soundtrack...oh my lord. Not a fan of 2001.
Back on topic! I must get Alien/s on blu-ray if it is available.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
Oh fuck no! LOL! One of the worst movies I've ever had the displeasure of skipping through.
And yes, Sunshine it a much better movie than Moon - which I also own and love.
brianjones
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yeah i like sunshine better than moon. ALL OF IT.
Oh, you.
But that's neither here nor there.
Edit: That latter phrase makes it appear as though I disagree with you regularly. I don't - just on this particular point.
TheKaeptain
Banned
What? There are only two Alien movies.
EDIT: ME AND SCUILLI AGREE ON SOMETHING! End of the internet as we know it.
The last 3rd act of Sunshine is far better than the entire Pandorum. Trust me. I made a thread for Pandorum here, hoping it'd be Dead Space live action but it wasn't.
Now, now... we all know there are three Alien movies. Silly.
Alien, Aliens, and... Prometheus?
You're right... There are four when you include Prometheus.
I liked the idea of the pandorum psychosis, and the film really should have focused more on that, rather than simply
employing it in the plot twist
devolved savages
ReturnOfTheRAT
Member
Add me to the group like likes Sunshine more than Moon.
Thank you, Sir. You've made my day.
Maybe my favorite onscreen performance by a cat ever.
The middle section of it does, anyway.
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
What's the story there!?
It wasn't?
The third and fourth are so... disappointing. It's easier just to think of the first two as all that matters.
But then I remember that Frenchman's film.
Talking about Moon being pretty overrated around these parts. A good movie, but not anywhere close to being one of the sci-fi greats.
"This movie sucks, want to go to bed?"
"Okay."
I mean, it was probably going to happen anyway, but it happened sooner thanks to Pandorum.
Angry Fork
Member
Just rewatched Alien after about 5+ years, forgot a lot of the film so the trailer didn't effect me much.
Then rewatched the trailer.
Now I got all the references/allusions, and am so fucking hyped. Loews Lincoln Square IMAX theater - day one, midnight showing if possible.
Then rewatched the trailer.
Now I got all the references/allusions, and am so fucking hyped. Loews Lincoln Square IMAX theater - day one, midnight showing if possible.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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"This movie sucks, want to go to bed?"
"Okay."
I mean, it was probably going to happen anyway, but it happened sooner thanks to Pandorum.
That story was so much less exciting than I was hoping. I thought it would be a sexual epic.
Haha, I'm afraid not.
It wasn't?
The first part wasn't so shabby. But it all went downhill after the creatures were revealed. I mean for all I know they could be people wearing monster costume (and they do look like people wearing costume).
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
Moon was great. And it looked great - especially considering it was made on a 5m budget.
But yes, Danny Boyle is hard to beat. He's easily sitting around the top of the list when it comes to best directors working today.
This man speaks the truth.
dangerbyrnes
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i hope Prometheus is as scary as alien on first viewing. i don't want it as scary as john carpenters the Thing though, dear god that movie scarred me for life. i think that may be the scariest sci-fi movie ever made.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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I hope it is as scary as the Thing. As much as I like Alien, I wasn't that scared through it (though I jumped at the one jump scare). Asides from that, I wasn't scared, but I loved the mood and atmosphere.
But I hope this is terrifying. Love the Thing.
In your opinion, who is better than Boyle?
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
Well in my mind I have a few directors that are the in my opinion the best working today based on their filmography over the last ten years.
They would include Boyle, Spielberg, Fincher, Tarantino, Cuaron, Cameron and Scorsese.
Then a tier below those guys I would put directors like Aronofsky, Nolan, Wes Anderson and a bunch of others.
TheKaeptain
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Chiggs
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There's one part in Alien that I never noticed until seeing it in Widescreen format 6 or 7 years ago. It happens when Harry Dean Stanton goes looking for that cat and enters that cathedral-like room with the chains hanging down. It's a wide shot from a vertical POV of the entire area, showcasing the various machines and whatnot. Cleverly disguised in that area is that xenomorph, just hanging around watching Stanton.
Pretty creepy to me.
I'd put Moon quite considerably above Sunshine.
Moon is great, low-budget old-school sci-fi. Sunshine is deeply flawed, big budget, modern sci-fi. The last act threw away all of the positives a modern film brought to the genre. Something Prometheus hopefully won't. Moon was a good story well told, Sunshine a good story that completely fell apart while disappearing up its own backside at the same time.
It's one of those films I like inspite of itself, because of the great visuals, atmosphere and soundtrack.
Moon is great, low-budget old-school sci-fi. Sunshine is deeply flawed, big budget, modern sci-fi. The last act threw away all of the positives a modern film brought to the genre. Something Prometheus hopefully won't. Moon was a good story well told, Sunshine a good story that completely fell apart while disappearing up its own backside at the same time.
It's one of those films I like inspite of itself, because of the great visuals, atmosphere and soundtrack.
Also, Sunshine > Moon. Except the first half of the third act. It's incredibly rote at that point. But then Kappa gets into that suit and that long and beautiful sequence culminating in his jump begins and it entirely redeems itself for a fantastic conclusion.
It was certainly unsettling, I'll give you that, but it was the definition of a film that ignored the law of horror: "what you don't see is far scarier than what you do". It just so happened that thanks to some great talent involved, it still ended up being a fantastic film.
Woah woah woah. John Carpenter's 'The Thing', scary? It was a fantastic B-movie work with incredible practical effects and a nice bit of light psychology peppered over its gore-aesthetic, but it was far from scary - it blew its load far too soon as you have dog-splitting-in-half-monster-tentacles inside the first act. It didn't let the sense of tension, fear and suggestion build and breathe long enough to be anything as scary as Alien.
It was certainly unsettling, I'll give you that, but it was the definition of a film that ignored the law of horror: "what you don't see is far scarier than what you do". It just so happened that thanks to some great talent involved, it still ended up being a fantastic film.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
Sunshine makes a lot more sense once you understand what Garland was trying to achieve with the script from the outset. The idea of the Sun as a huge representation of god and that the closer the crew would move toward it, the more they would lose their minds in the face of meeting their creator.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Huh... I'd never thought about that before.
I thought that was kind of explicit in the story though? All the talks of sunlight being life itself, the "what do you see?!", the sounds of space and the Icarus I's captains talk of God and angels. It still doesn't change the fact those themes could have been explored much more intelligently than having a big bad appear to force a climax. I dare say that's one element Moon got right over Sunshine.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
You don't need them to respond. If you literally click 'quote' you should see the link address in the post you're quoting.
Or just look here I guess.
http://vimeo.com/34025136
That was obvious, but the execution was as jarring and hamfisted as it could possibly have been.
Like I said, it fell apart while disappearing up its own backside trying to be all existential. Crushingly disappointing after how carefully the rest of the film was handled. If they couldn't pull off a greater point they should have stuck to what they could do, the film would have worked just as well.
Sunshine was a (very) beautiful mess.
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