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Halo: Reach |OT7| What are They to Say Now?

In terms of how the game actually runs, it's a pretty good port. Looks great, runs great, no complaints there, great support of the 360 pad. Tray and Play was great for just throwing the disc in and beginning to play.

In terms of the ability to customize the experience, it had an extremely gimped version of the Halo 1 dev tools and did not support campaign modding AT ALL, and the multiplayer map editor (as shipped) was also next to useless. It was obviously just sent out as fast as they could.

Didnt Kornman00 get consulted by the porting team aswell, (hired guns?) about making it the most user friendly halo game for modders.

:(
 

FyreWulff

Member
If only Forge maps can create some as unique or interesting.

In my ideal world we'd have a full on Far Cry editor for map creation and then Forge mode for weapon and other object placements.

In a perfect world we'd be able to just build new maps entirely with XNA and be able to make Forge palettes for people to customize the maps after they're baked.
 

Striker

Member
In my ideal world we'd have a full on Far Cry editor for map creation and then Forge mode for weapon and other object placements.

In a perfect world we'd be able to just build new maps entirely with XNA and be able to make Forge palettes for people to customize the maps after they're baked.
The way Far Cry's can create such great landscapes is fantastic. Mountains, trees, rivers, whatever you want. I like Forge's weapon, spawn, and so on stuff, but in everything else is fails miserably. Hopefully it's completely improved, otherwise I hope they don't put much into it and just use it in Halo 4 as a side-bar, basically for changing spawns, weapons, moving eventual flag placement, etc.
 

MrBig

Member
In my ideal world we'd have a full on Far Cry editor for map creation and then Forge mode for weapon and other object placements.

In a perfect world we'd be able to just build new maps entirely with XNA and be able to make Forge palettes for people to customize the maps after they're baked.

In my perfect world Bungie would go back to their old way of just giving us the SDK.
 

kylej

Banned
In my ideal world we'd have a full on Far Cry editor for map creation and then Forge mode for weapon and other object placements.

With 3 years of development time that's what I expected. Bungie is good at training their fans to have low expectations though.

see: "We don't need higher framerates"
 

kylej

Banned

Can that map editor make neon colored Anime Girls like Forge can? No? Chalk up another victory to Bungie.

Still not quite sure how that studio is going to make an MMO. "What do you mean we need more than 3 hours of content? What? More than 9 areas? WHAT? You want us to write more than two pages of dialogue, too!? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"
 
Oh for heavens sake, articles like these.. rargh.
OXM said:
there are plenty of infected Halo installations, ships and planets out there besides the now-defunct Ark and Installation 04
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Can that map editor make neon colored Anime Girls like Forge can? No? Chalk up another victory to Bungie.

Still not quite sure how that studio is going to make an MMO. "What do you mean we need more than 3 hours of content? What? More than 9 areas? WHAT? You want us to write more than two pages of dialogue, too!? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"
You really have no fucking clue about design.
 

kylej

Banned
What should I know about design? I didn't know you were an expert video game developer in addition to being a revered Halo Community Veteran.
 
K

kittens

Unconfirmed Member
Go with number 1, Gabo. The black/white makes it look like a total model shot, hah.
 
What should I know about design? I didn't know you were an expert video game developer in addition to being a revered Halo Community Veteran.

I suppose you should know plenty of things about design if you are going to claim that you alone are better than Bungie, and your mind alone could fix all the problems with the game and make it perfect.
 
I suppose you should know plenty of things about design if you are going to claim that you alone are better than Bungie, and your mind alone could fix all the problems with the game and make it perfect.

It's not his mind that will fix Bungie, it's his attitude. Bitter one-liners make everything better!
 
K

kittens

Unconfirmed Member
So, uh, how bout that game...right?
Halo 4 cancelled. Fanbase just too dumb.

Serious Bizness Edit: I know this is a video game forum and all, but I'd like to see people tone down the arrogance. I'm not just talking about one person here.
 

kylej

Banned
I suppose you should know plenty of things about design if you are going to claim that you alone are better than Bungie, and your mind alone could fix all the problems with the game and make it perfect.

How the hell did you get that out of my posts? Didn't I already explain to you in detail why I think Reach is half-assed, and you ran away instead of replying to it? If I recall, most of the thread agreed with me and you were nowhere to be found. Oh well.

I don't know shit, but it's clear you know less, therefore, it's annoying.

How is it clear I know less? Elaborate, Mr. Noobs.

edit. At least Noobs and Starwolf are willing to state their opinions and disagree with me. Some of you guys don't have to start posting stupid white noise as soon as an argument or differing opinions pop up. There's always the Halo 4 thread or the Halo book threads to circlejerk in.
 
And so, like heckfu's mighty beard, the uneasy peace in HaloGAF was shaved off the face of the planet and there was, once-again bloody civil war.

edit. At least Noobs and Starwolf are willing to state their opinions and disagree with me. Some of you guys don't have to start posting stupid white noise as soon as an argument or differing opinions pop up. There's always the Halo 4 thread or the Halo book threads to circlejerk in.

The kylej Nation launched a savage volley at its defenseless neighbors. Would anyone step in to protect them? Or would the kylej's march, unopposed, to the verdant plains and lush forests of the Outer World?
 
How the hell did you get that out of my posts? Didn't I already explain to you in detail why I think Reach is half-assed, and you ran away instead of replying to it? If I recall, most of the thread agreed with me and you were nowhere to be found. Oh well.



How is it clear I know less? Elaborate, Mr. Noobs.

edit. At least Noobs and Starwolf are willing to state their opinions and disagree with me. Some of you guys don't have to start posting stupid white noise as soon as an argument or differing opinions pop up. There's always the Halo 4 thread or the Halo book threads to circlejerk in.

It's the attitude you have when you talk about Bungie at all. I'm not saying I disagree with some of the things you bring up, it just comes across at times that you know better than Bungie. In the end, people at 343 and Bungie know a lot more on the subject than we do, and all of their decisions aren't just made on whims. Careful thought goes into all aspects of a game.

Something that really bothered me the other day is when you told Frankie that Halo 4 shouldn't have an assault rifle. With the customization we already have in the game, there are plenty of game types where we don't have these automatic weapons to start with. Removing the gun would also take away from the sandbox, and turn off a lot of players.
 

heckfu

Banned
edit. At least Noobs and Starwolf are willing to state their opinions and disagree with me. Some of you guys don't have to start posting stupid white noise as soon as an argument or differing opinions pop up. There's always the Halo 4 thread or the Halo book threads to circlejerk in.

i love debating opinions with those willing to debate. you always come in too abrasive and polarized for me to actually think you'll listen.

i enjoy watching the fights, just dont enjoy participating with you.
 

neoism

Member
woow last game in 2011 I have 27 kills I accidentally betray someone... :/ I fucking swear 343 please fix the betray system in 4 please its sooo stupid. Only had like 2 minutes left too. :/
 

kylej

Banned
You liberals always act like Cheney was personally profiting from war.

Become executive of company, leave company, become Vice President of US, start war, award massive contracts to former company. If it weren't so blatantly, hilariously offensive, I'd hang myself.

i love debating opinions with those willing to debate. you always come in too abrasive and polarized for me to actually think you'll listen.

i enjoy watching the fights, just dont enjoy participating with you.

Being abrasive and polarizing is fun. This thread is boring as shit until someone steps up and actually starts a conversation.

It's the attitude you have when you talk about Bungie at all. I'm not saying I disagree with some of the things you bring up, it just comes across at times that you know better than Bungie. In the end, people at 343 and Bungie know a lot more on the subject than we do, and all of their decisions aren't just made on whims. Careful thought goes into all aspects of a game.

I have no doubt careful thought goes into all aspects of the game, doesn't mean I can't be disappointed with the end result. Doubly so when half my Halo friends abandon the game for COD and I see Halo sliding ever further down the XBL activity list. I don't hate Bungie, I expect more from them.
 
I have no doubt careful thought goes into all aspects of the game, doesn't mean I can't be disappointed with the end result. Doubly so when half my Halo friends abandon the game for COD and I see Halo sliding ever further down the XBL activity list. I don't hate Bungie, I expect more from them.

respect +1.

You don't usually come off like this though.
 

Louis Wu

Member
Become executive of company, leave company, become Vice President of US, start war, award massive contracts to former company. If it weren't so blatantly, hilariously offensive, I'd hang myself.
::doubletake::

Holy shit - you thought Frank wasn't trolling there?
 
Because you don't appreciate the amount of raw work that went into making even the smallest of things. You talk about the game like it's a few pages of code.
 

Trasher

Member
It's the attitude you have when you talk about Bungie at all. I'm not saying I disagree with some of the things you bring up, it just comes across at times that you know better than Bungie. In the end, people at 343 and Bungie know a lot more on the subject than we do, and all of their decisions aren't just made on whims. Careful thought goes into all aspects of a game.

Something that really bothered me the other day is when you told Frankie that Halo 4 shouldn't have an assault rifle. With the customization we already have in the game, there are plenty of game types where we don't have these automatic weapons to start with. Removing the gun would also take away from the sandbox, and turn off a lot of players.

Or instead of thinking you can get the opinions of a couple MLG pros and just take their word for it.

That wasn't the most careful thinking there...lol.

respect +1.

You don't usually come off like this though.

It's because he writes things sarcastically, but his overall point is still obvious.
 

Tashi

343i Lead Esports Producer
Have a safe and Happy New Years eve and New Year HaloGAF. I'll be getting completely trashed tonight and then I'll be back home tomorrow.
 
I have no doubt careful thought goes into all aspects of the game, doesn't mean I can't be disappointed with the end result. Doubly so when half my Halo friends abandon the game for COD and I see Halo sliding ever further down the XBL activity list. I don't hate Bungie, I expect more from them.
You understand that this basically contradicts the way you post. And it can't all be chalked up to sarcasm.
 

ElRenoRaven

Member
Wow. This thread has really turned into something since last I read. Stupid Steam sale. Don't know what it's become but it's most certainly looking like a train wreck at the moment.
 
K

kittens

Unconfirmed Member
Wow. This thread has really turned into something since last I read. Stupid Steam sale. Don't know what it's become but it's most certainly looking like a train wreck at the moment.
I saw you in a different thread the other day. Just figured you were sick of HaloGAF drama, haha.

But of course, drama is totally fun, and conversations are boring and pointless without it.
 
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