That's exactly the reason why they're controversial! Some think one way, some think the opposite. That's controversy!
Controversial does not mean "unpopular."
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That's exactly the reason why they're controversial! Some think one way, some think the opposite. That's controversy!
Controversial does not mean "unpopular."
AcceptableGhost
Member
Because story and narrative are the least important part of video games. The boxart is probably more important than that.
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
You know Mickey? that mouse that appeared in 1928 and is an iconic image in cartoons? The one that has been in thousands of silly and fun adventures with his pals from his creation till now? The star of a multimillionaire company known around the whole world?
No?
NinjaBoiX
Member
Well, it did have the best tyre smoke this gen, outside of GRiD and Driver SanFran, so it wasn't all bad! But Hot Pursuit is the only NFS game you need this gen. Roll on HP2 Criterion, I have unwavering faith in you guys!
kurtrussell
Banned
If you cramp your hand, you're doing it wrong.
Index finger - D
Fourth finger - A
Middle finger - W / S
Reverse if you're left handed.
I can't imagine anyone struggling with that apart from Jeremy Beadle
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Mickey is a shitty character and always has been. Donald and Scrooge are my bros.
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
Well, i didnt mean if someone likes him or hates him, I also like better Donald. He is still an iconic character for the industry were he was born since 1928.
The same as Mario. I also like more Luigi.
Also Mickey in Steamboat Willie, plane Crazy and Gallopin Gaucho was future Donald. Blame america's public for that one, they converted him into america's good boy and ambassador for the rest of the world, but im of the opinion that that worked out.
I think it's universally agreed the failure rates of the 360 were unacceptable, but that's no longer the case and this is a topic has been beaten to death so I don't see the point in bringing it up now.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
No, let's rather talk about how terrible Mickey is and how much better the Duck comics by Rosa and Barks are.
kurtrussell
Banned
Is that really a controversial opinion on GAF?
NinjaBoiX
Member
I don't know about you, buy when I type, my left hand isn't permenantly touching "WASD". You should trying using both hands, it's much quicker.
Paracelsus
Member
Persona 4 is the most undeservingly overrated Jrpg in the history of mankind (some would argue it's FFVII but it's not), The Last Remnant doesn't deserve one hundredth of the hate it got instead.
I guess my most controversial opinion stems from the fact that most of the time, I dislike 3rd person action games. What that translates into is my distaste for games like God of War, Bayonetta, Vanquish, Ninja Gaiden, Shinobi, etc., and I'm slowly losing my patience with Kingdom Hearts right now. I keep giving them a chance, though, since there have been games and series that I've hated for a long time that I ended up falling in love with later in life, so I haven't written them off completely.
My love for Minish Cap isn't/wasn't popular here. Seems to be the most hated game in the series, or at least GAF groupthink was like this for a while several years ago. Maybe times have changed.
My love for Minish Cap isn't/wasn't popular here. Seems to be the most hated game in the series, or at least GAF groupthink was like this for a while several years ago. Maybe times have changed.
NinjaBoiX
Member
VeryGooster
Banned
After my own heart. <3
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
Persona 4 is much better than Persona 3.
Fuck P3 emo story.
Fuck P3 emo story.
John Rabbit
Banned
while i understand the reasons 98 is so loved, i really think 2001 is the best KOF.Yep, right here:
(probably because it's the only KOF i played enough to be decent at)
you should try using a mouse, its pretty ill. Also, unless you are slow or something, your ring, middle, and index fingers should be moving between wasd and q, e, r, c, the number keys, and whatever the hell else you want to use.
AcceptableGhost
Member
Playing late 90's/early 2000s games on the PC is kind of like playing games in the future. PC game genres got butchered when they came to consoles.
kurtrussell
Banned
Throw some examples up!
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
The split design of the Wii-remote is better than the DS3 or the 360 pad. I think it could do with a slight layout change, plus some additional buttons to accommodate the average game, but it is easily the most comfortable controller in the hand.
It's a shame that we probably won't get another controller like it.
It's a shame that we probably won't get another controller like it.
LIST WARS ENGAGE
Quake and Unreal tourament, Boom.
king picollo
Member
I don't like Forza and Grand Tourismo driving games, they try and be realistic but just end up being boring.
Give me PGR any day of the week.
Give me PGR any day of the week.
I don't think that Skyrim is all that great. While I am impressed with the size and scope of the game, I just got pretty bored with it. I played about 110 hours so I think I have some exprerience with the game. I finished the main quest, all 4 guilds and the civil war story. Nothing really grabbed me. The dungeons were boring. The quest lines weren't great. Nothing seemed as cool as some of the quests in Oblivion. Everything just seemed like a thinly veiled fetch quest. I spent about 20 more hours in Skyrim as I did in Oblivion but I enjoyed Oblivion more. There, I said it.
Classic_Gs
Member
The Uncharted series is incredibly boring with bad gun play
The PSP is the best handheld system ever made
FFXII is garbage and FFXI is the best entry in the series
The PSP is the best handheld system ever made
FFXII is garbage and FFXI is the best entry in the series
SatelliteOfLove
Member
Balance in-game is no longer the goal of trendsetting game developers this generation, and its beginning to look as if some gamers don't even recognize it if they see it, as they are turning into Princess and the Pea Gamers.
Risk = Reward? Slam that shit to the right and break off the handle! "I shouldn't have to be punished for not knowing blah blah blah..."
Effort = Payoff? More is better! "I don't wanna have to work to get to the game yada yada yada..."
This sort of instant gratification worshiping has opened the door to LCD gaming, belittling of gameplay as a goal, nuanced game design, and put many genres and franchises either under siege or drastically changing of their focus or audience.
Scarily, it's not the kids who are at fault here (who are often blamed for this), but 30-somethings hiding behind slowing reflexes, low understanding of what they like, lower energy levels, less free time, and the old classic: much more discretionary spending leading to a HUGE backlog so none should be based on the joy of pla....er, I mean, "have to work to get to the dopamine hi..." er, you know.
Risk = Reward? Slam that shit to the right and break off the handle! "I shouldn't have to be punished for not knowing blah blah blah..."
Effort = Payoff? More is better! "I don't wanna have to work to get to the game yada yada yada..."
This sort of instant gratification worshiping has opened the door to LCD gaming, belittling of gameplay as a goal, nuanced game design, and put many genres and franchises either under siege or drastically changing of their focus or audience.
Scarily, it's not the kids who are at fault here (who are often blamed for this), but 30-somethings hiding behind slowing reflexes, low understanding of what they like, lower energy levels, less free time, and the old classic: much more discretionary spending leading to a HUGE backlog so none should be based on the joy of pla....er, I mean, "have to work to get to the dopamine hi..." er, you know.
HitokiriNate85
Member
The Metroid Prime series is better than the 3D Zelda entries.
Rockstar could use some serious help in designing games that are actually fun to play. They're incredible when it comes to world building and atmosphere, but I always feel like gameplay comes last for them.
MGS2 is the best entry in the series.
Mass Effect has shit art design.
So did Oblivion.
Killer7 sucks. Is this even controversial, though?
That's probably it. Only the first two will probably net a bunch of disagreements.
Rockstar could use some serious help in designing games that are actually fun to play. They're incredible when it comes to world building and atmosphere, but I always feel like gameplay comes last for them.
MGS2 is the best entry in the series.
Mass Effect has shit art design.
So did Oblivion.
Killer7 sucks. Is this even controversial, though?
That's probably it. Only the first two will probably net a bunch of disagreements.
I think a large number of "classic" and revered SNES/PS1/N64 games are unplayable by modern standards, especially when it comes to JRPGs.
I think the Gamecube was better than the PS2 (The PS2 had more great games, but I think the cube's best puts it above the PS2)
I think Final Fantasy X is a god-awful game on par with XIII (Most of my complaints are shared between both), and cannot fathom why its as popular as it is.
I think Final Fantasy IX is the best final fantasy game
I think Yoshi's Island is the best platformer ever, even above SMB3 (If only just)
I think the Gamecube was better than the PS2 (The PS2 had more great games, but I think the cube's best puts it above the PS2)
I think Final Fantasy X is a god-awful game on par with XIII (Most of my complaints are shared between both), and cannot fathom why its as popular as it is.
I think Final Fantasy IX is the best final fantasy game
I think Yoshi's Island is the best platformer ever, even above SMB3 (If only just)
Fine Ham Abounds
Member
I always remember it as the first game with an intro that actually impressed me.
For me, the cutoff is 8-bit games. Most SNES games hold up pretty well, a lot more than PS1 or N64 games.
The only 8-bit games I can really enjoy with anything but nostalgia goggles on anymore are the classic Mega Man series.
Well controversial typically refers to when there is a strong disagreement. Either way you knew what I meant.
TheLastCandle
Member
Because that's sort of the point of this thread, my good man. Not that it's particularly controversial to point out the shittacular failure rate, but to throw out any opinion of gaming that may get someone annoyed regardless of how controversial it is.
At least that how I'm viewing it.
NinjaBoiX
Member
See, that's another thing, all the different buttons you have to use, "R"eload, "T"orch, "G"renade, it's just awkward to me. I get that the mouse is more accurate than the right stick, but everything else is just off. Clicking the mouse button to shoot is surely no subtitute for a proper trigger, the left stick also surely makes more sense than WASD to move, and everything else is just the randomly placed keys mapped to ergonomic buttons on the pad. Throw in rumble (hardly a dealbreaker admittedly, but a nice bonus), an ergonomic form factor and the "couch" factor and the pad comes out on top everytime for me.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
You don't like Capcom's Disney platformers for the NES?
ZacharyDCCLXXVII
Member
Alright, let's see...
I think Valve's terrible for how they've handled Episode 3. We've gotten Left 4 Dead 2 and Portal 2 (both unneeded sequels), but there's absolutely no sign of Episode 3. At this point, they might as well just make Half-Life 3 and make Episode 3 into some prologue for it.
The best FPSes ever made are Quake I, Perfect Dark, Half-Life, and Call of Duty 2.
Terraria is a great game, but the fact that they're STILL using barely-changed Final Fantasy sprites is pretty shitty.
EarthBound is better than Mother 3.
And Super Smash Bros. 64 is still the best SSB (and I'm definitely not saying that because Ness' grabs were overpowered as all hell).
I think Valve's terrible for how they've handled Episode 3. We've gotten Left 4 Dead 2 and Portal 2 (both unneeded sequels), but there's absolutely no sign of Episode 3. At this point, they might as well just make Half-Life 3 and make Episode 3 into some prologue for it.
The best FPSes ever made are Quake I, Perfect Dark, Half-Life, and Call of Duty 2.
Terraria is a great game, but the fact that they're STILL using barely-changed Final Fantasy sprites is pretty shitty.
EarthBound is better than Mother 3.
And Super Smash Bros. 64 is still the best SSB (and I'm definitely not saying that because Ness' grabs were overpowered as all hell).
comfy couch herp derp
everything is faster on a keyboard. mouse buttons have less throw, and everything that is digital does what you want it to do faster than anything analog. real talk.
Honestly, I haven't played much in the way of NES games outside of a handful of marios/megamans, etc.
NinjaBoiX
Member
+1, especially with the condom on the remote, so comfortable! The nunchuk could've been a little bigger and heavier for me mind. But not having your hands held together was so liberating in terms of just slouching around, probably my favourite controller/s this gen in terms of ergonomics. Needed more buttons, a bigger wireless nunchuk, and a rounder wiimote to be pretty much perfect.
Fine Ham Abounds
Member
Holy crap. Fucking Rescue Rangers music just popped into my head.
Guess the backlog's going to have to move back again because now I have to play this and Ducktales again. GDI.
Air Zombie Meat
Member
PS3 YLOD was worse than the 360s RROD. Why? Because I was covered for free replacements for my broken 360s and I could recover all my saves. PS3 I wasn't covered at all and lost all my saves + backwards compatibility.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Gaogaogao said:
Their (the pixel-counters) fixating on superficial issues of presentation and exaggerating their importance above everything else is what's wrong. Its like praising a painting on the basis that its got more colours or brushstrokes in it than another, or a piece of music having more notes in its score or instruments in its arrangement...
The historical basis of the term lies in how the Philistine civilization was more technologically advanced than its neighbours, yet died out due to its haughtyness in its relations with them.
In an artistic/humanistic sense what it means is that the thing that really matters, what endures, is the whole entity, not superficial aspects of virtuosity that will eventually be made commonplace then redundant by the advance of civilization and its technology over time.
There are many great games that run at low resolutions/frame-rates due to the limitations of technology at the time they were created. This is not a flaw, its just that everything is a product of its time.
By that same token, all games that look amazing now will look significantly less impressive in 5, 10 years time from now - but you can't damn them for that because its inevitable.
So, why get hung up on minor fluctuations in frame-rate/buffer-size when time and progress is inevitably going to render such distinctions redundant?
perfectnight
Banned
Absolutely. Nothing else comes close =)
I know I'm way late on this but I laughed.
I know there are some other people who agree with my statement on Xenogears, and I'm no way saying that my opinion is unique, but after hearing how it's considered one of the best JRPGS ever made ever, I was severely disappointed (I played it for the first time when it became available on PSN).
That 2nd disc man
