Yes, if you set a game in one country, one of the heroes must be from that country. Of course. It only makes sense.So one of the settings is in Hong Kong/China but none of the identifiable heroes are of Asian descent? Good job, Crapcom!
At the very least put Ada Wong in one of the lead roles instead of Ash-I'm so annoying-ley.
People complaining about the timeline issue; what if the early chapters are set in 2008, and then jumps to 2013?
I mean, what if the game starts with Leon's scenario with the president and then unfolds in China 5 years later?
It's not that hard to try to understand...and besides, wasn't Damnation supposed to be set in 2008? :<
So one of the settings is in Hong Kong/China but none of the identifiable heroes are of Asian descent? Good job, Crapcom!
At the very least put Ada Wong in one of the lead roles instead of Ash-I'm so annoying-ley.
Yes, if you set a game in one country, one of the heroes must be from that country. Of course. It only makes sense.
*cancels preorder*
Yes, if you set a game in one country, one of the heroes must be from that country. Of course. It only makes sense.
*cancels preorder*
Whoa, man, I appreciate the effort, but is there any way to slow these gifs the fuck down? I was hoping the gifs would make it easier to appreciate each frame. These make my eyes bleed!Not sure if its against thread rules but:
Would "white caucasian" be whiter than white? Would that make the game twice as racist? Hmm.Well yeah, boohoo. Because there aren't enough stocks of white caucasian male characters to save the day and the poor asian people.
Leon needs to have his face melted off again. Also, if Chris loses to Javos, there should be a cutscene where Jill's eating at a Chinese food restaurant and she goes, "Hmm, this food tastes familiar... It tastes like... Nah, couldn't be." As the camera zooms in on the Chinese food three times.If this game has no GORE
im not buying... something they fucked up in 5. They censored that shit hardcore
Would "white caucasian" be whiter than white? Would that make the game twice as racist? Hmm.
More like serving white entitlement. God forbid that in a city and country that is populated by mostly Asians, one of the lead or at least supporting characters is actually an asian girl/guy. And this is amongst 6 lead/supporting characters. But according to you, it's only natural that all 6 leads/supporting being white. Not even one of them could be a different race.
Would it hurt Capcom to diversify their lead characters a bit?
Or maybe, just maybe, it's the fact that the military squad is from another, non-Asian country and is intervening on the Asian country's behalf.More like serving white entitlement. God forbid that in a city and country that is populated by mostly Asians, one of the lead or at least supporting characters is actually an asian girl/guy. And this is amongst 6 lead/supporting characters. But according to you, it's only natural that all 6 leads/supporting being white. Not even one of them could be a different race.
Would it hurt Capcom to diversify their lead characters a bit?
Millions of people love these characters, Chris and Leon are huge fan favorites. Why should they drop them when so many people want these characters in the game?
Or maybe, just maybe, it's the fact that the military squad is from another, non-Asian country and is intervening on the Asian country's behalf.
I didn't say they should drop them, did I? But they present 6. Count them: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 leads/supporting characters. And yet, NONE of them is of any race other than white. Why is it not okay to complain that in a city like Hong Kong, Chris can't partnered up with a local police/BSAA agent?
And why is the agent that is suppose to follow the bald guy is Ashley? Ashley, the president daughter instead of some agent who actually have training. Are we going to argue about plot construction here when in fact, inclusion of colored character can be easily argued for in this case?
I didn't say they should drop them, did I? But they present 6. Count them: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 leads/supporting characters. And yet, NONE of them is of any race other than white. Why is it not okay to complain that in a city like Hong Kong, Chris can't partnered up with a local police/BSAA agent?
And why is the agent that is suppose to follow the bald guy is Ashley? Ashley, the president daughter instead of some agent who actually have training. Are we going to argue about plot construction here when in fact, inclusion of colored character can be easily argued for in this case?
I didn't say they should drop them, did I? But they present 6. Count them: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 leads/supporting characters. And yet, NONE of them is of any race other than white. Why is it not okay to complain that in a city like Hong Kong, Chris can't partnered up with a local police/BSAA agent?
And why is the agent that is suppose to follow the bald guy is Ashley? Ashley, the president daughter instead of some agent who actually have training. Are we going to argue about plot construction here when in fact, inclusion of colored character can be easily argued for in this case?
Yeah, um, I'm kind of aware other countries have militaries. But maybe Chris' squad is from America, and they're doing their own thing while the Chinese troops are doing theirs. It's really not that hard to imagine how this story is the way it is without being, y'know, racist. Said another way: It's batshit crazy to think this game is racist.WOW. Yes, yes, because Asian country don't have their own arm forces who can work together with agents from other countries. Talk about white superiority attitude.
Chris has an entire squad with him, are you sure that everyone of them are white?
Yeah, um, I'm kind of aware other countries have militaries. But maybe Chris' squad is from America, and they're doing their own thing while the Chinese troops are doing theirs. It's really not that hard to imagine how this story is the way it is without being, y'know, racist. Said another way: It's batshit crazy to think this game is racist.
Would it kill Capcom to make one of those non-whites a lead/main supporting characters? Instead of the tens of red-shirts that'd undoubtedly get killed in the crossfire.
And yes, RE5 present Sheeva but looked at how some people here even complained that she was shoe-horned. What kind of argument is that. Why would an African BSAA agent does not present in her own country? To me her inclusion makes a lot of sense.
There was nothing shoehorned about Sheva's presence. She had tons of dialogue and was clearly a part of the plot from the start. That being said, this concept that any country the characters visit have to have playable representation in their ranks is weird and headache-inducing. Especially what appears to be a hastily-arranged BSAA mission where you're sent in with the men you always work with to do a job in another country and that's it.Would it kill Capcom to make one of those non-whites a lead/main supporting characters? Instead of the tens of red-shirts that'd undoubtedly get killed in the crossfire.
And yes, RE5 present Sheeva but looked at how some people here even complained that she was shoe-horned. What kind of argument is that. Why would an African BSAA agent does not present in her own country? To me her inclusion makes a lot of sense.
It's just a skin color. The more we keep acting like skin color means anything, the longer people continue to imagine they're different in the first place. People just shouldn't give a shit about this stuff.Did you even read what I said?! Amongst 6 lead characters, Capcom couldn't get it through their thick head that maybe, just maybe it'd be nice to have an important character that is of different race other than white. The inclusion of a character can be reasoned by plot that Capcom cooks up. But for some reason, they just don't want to include a colored character. I'm not calling it racist but at the very least it's an ignorance.
Hey I wouldn't mind having Chris's partner be Hong Kong at all. I only get annoyoed when people jwant things throw out when millions love it simply for the sake of diversity.
Neiteio said:There was nothing shoehorned about Sheva's presence. She had tons of dialogue and was clearly a part of the plot from the start. That being said, this concept that any country the characters visit have to have playable representation in their ranks is weird and headache-inducing. Especially what appears to be a hastily-arranged BSAA mission where you're sent in with the men you always work with to do a job in another country and that's it.
It's just a skin color. The more we keep acting like skin color means anything, the longer people continue to imagine they're different in the first place. People just shouldn't give a shit about this stuff.
Diversity is not just the sake of it. It's a reality. Different races live in different countries together. It's about time video game reflects that reality and stop just presenting white leads 24/7.
Why is it head-inducing? Have you even work in another country as a foreigner? Are you even aware of the kind of clearance required from the local authorities? It makes a lot of sense for Chris to be partnered up with a local agent who knows where's the dangerous area and what resources they can use to tackle the problem.
No, I've never been sent into another country during a crisis situation involving zombies. Look: You're being upset over nothing. Just give the game the benefit of the doubt that it makes sense this particular crew is doing what they're doing in China. It looks like they get whisked off to East Europe later anyway (the Chris behind cover scene, tank scene, etc). NOT THAT A CHINESE MAN COULDN'T FOLLOW THEM THERE, mind you, but I really think this is simply a case where the two leads in Chris' campaign are the way they are because they're both from America, they have a shared background there, and the "perfect strangers" shtick of RE5 isn't what they're going for this time around, rather opting for the captain/soldier relationship, which generally comes with the territory of people from the same army as you.Diversity is not just the sake of it. It's a reality. Different races live in different countries together. It's about time video game reflects that reality and stop just presenting white leads 24/7.
Why is it head-inducing? Have you even work in another country as a foreigner? Are you even aware of the kind of clearance required from the local authorities? It makes a lot of sense for Chris to be partnered up with a local agent who knows where's the dangerous area and what resources they can use to tackle the problem.
Yes, but that doesn't mean a company should throw out move aside beloved characters just for it, Divisity is something that is good, even I want supported but not at the cost at what has come before simply so another group of people can have a character with a different skin color.
Or at least I don't care to support it. I want Chris and Leon, others want Chris and Leon, and that is why Capcom is pushing Chris and Leon.
So I don't mind if there is none so long as I get Chris and Leon, and I don't care if that makes me selfish.
I'm somehow doubting Ada will have much of anything (or they will completely ruin her) in this game knowing Capcom. I wish she would just get a main role for once instead of bonus/unlockable missions. :/
Yes, but that doesn't mean a company should throw out move aside beloved characters just for it, Divisity is something that is good, even I want supported but not at the cost at what has come before simply so another group of people can have a character with a different skin color.
Or at least I don't care to support it. I want Chris and Leon, others want Chris and Leon, and that is why Capcom is pushing Chris and Leon.
So I don't mind if there is none so long as I get Chris and Leon, and I don't care if that makes me selfish.
Nobody needs to throw out or move aside popular characters. The inclusion of new white characters + ashley graham as leads will make people wonder, though.
Somehow I'm not surprised to read that. It's just like those people who protested Bioware when they wanted to add sexual diversity to their characters.
Exactly. Her role in the series so far is either being a seductress/double-crosser/conniving henchwoman. It'd be nice to see her in a lead role for once.
He's screaming angrily in that scene.
This is what he normally looks like:
This is him in RE5 for comparison:
Nobody needs to throw out or move aside popular characters. The inclusion of new white characters + ashley graham as leads will make people wonder, though.
Neiteio said:Is it not the greater case of "tokenism" when you make the main cast of characters the team from Captain Planet? That just smacks of "here black person and Chinese person, here, have a character."
Thing is it's not different thenhow they handled Chris's more Western styled face.
Alot of the smoothness and metro look that Chris had (Remake) was dropped to make him look more like a man we more likely see as far as White North American male, same goes with Leon now in 6.
They just made Leon more american and made Chris less Arnold.
Where are the Jews, the Muslims? Why don't any of the characters have facial hair? What do they have against red-heads? Why aren't any of the characters wearing glasses? Why do all the main characters look so good? Why aren't any of them overweight? And while we're at it, why's there only one gay character? Do they think Leon's enough? What about lesbians? Hmm?Exactly. 6 leads. 2 of them white, it's not a biggie. 3, sure, why not? Let's put old favorites like Jill. 4? Pushing it but put Claire while we're on it. But 5 and 6? Seriously? And they are new characters to boot and Ashley! Yeah this doesn't look like ignorance.
Where are the Jews, the Muslims? Why don't any of the characters have facial hair? What do they have against red-heads? Why aren't any of the characters wearing glasses? Why do all the main characters look so good? Why aren't any of them overweight? And while we're at it, why's there only one gay character? Do they think Leon's enough? What about lesbians? Hmm?
Ignorance!
I don't see how Leon looks more like a North American man in Resident Evil 6 than he did in Resident Evil 4. Maybe he looks more like certain leading role American film actors. And what do you mean by metro? I guess Chris didn't look enough like a WWE wrestler in the original Resident Evil.
Chris and Wesker would have worked much better given how obsessed with each other they are.Where are the Jews, the Muslims? Why don't any of the characters have facial hair? What do they have against red-heads? Why aren't any of the characters wearing glasses? Why do all the main characters look so good? Why aren't any of them overweight? And while we're at it, why's there only one gay character? Do they think Leon's enough? What about lesbians? Hmm?
Ignorance!
Where are the Jews, the Muslims? Why don't any of the characters have facial hair? What do they have against red-heads? Why aren't any of the characters wearing glasses? Why do all the main characters look so good? Why aren't any of them overweight? And while we're at it, why's there only one gay character? Do they think Leon's enough? What about lesbians? Hmm?
Ignorance!
You saw the way he turned down Ashley in RE4.Wat.
Yeah, OK. Well I think it's more racist of you to assume I'm white just because I think the racial whining is the actual racism, but OK, belittle me, that's cool.Speaking like a true ignoramus. Yes, it'd be nice to have those traits represented once in a while in a game. I certainly won't hurt to have your supporting characters to be anything but white. But it's okay, continue to act like you're not being ignorant and dismissive about someone else of different race/sexuality/religion wanting their particular race/sexuality/religion to be represented in the media once in a while.
I really don't get this. How is it not racist for you to be whining about this?Because Chris' loyal partner/understudy from US can't be black or asian, eh? No sir, there are no blacks or asians in the US.
Yeah, OK. Well I think it's more racist to assume I'm white because I think the racial whining is the actual racism, but OK, belittle me, that's cool.
I really don't get this. How is it not racist for you to be whining about this?
"Why aren't MY PEOPLE in this videogame? Don't they understand that some gamers want to play/see a character who is LIKE THEM and not like THOSE OTHER GUYS?"
Why do you need that, man? It's a nice thing to encourage an accurate representation of ethnic ratios but you're outright bitching about this. A team of 6 Americans can end up being all white. It happens all the time. Go ahead and make this argument if all the soldiers and zombies are white, but it's just a coincidence as it is now.
I can't believe someone is accusing them of whitewashing the cast after all they've done through the whole series.
Nobody's against inclusion. Most of us, non-whites included, just don't give a shit if the cast is all white. It could be all black or all hispanic or all Asian or whatever and that would be fine too. It would elicit some humorous chuckles given it would be an out-of-nowhere sort of change, given the story up to this point. But utlimately it would be fine. Who gives a shit? Let's cap some zombies, ol' sport.I don't understand this race conversation in RE, what's the point of being against inclusion?
You can want whatever you want, man.You deserve every belittling you got, especially if you're actually not white and you actually being dismissive of someone else of different race wanting their race/sexuality/religion being represented in a media. You just assume that coming from a different race gives you a free card from being an ignorant.
+ Leon x Luis fanfics
Oh god, Ryan Seacrest is totally a boy toy. I can see it now, the high school fan fictions where Seacrest comments how good Chris' biceps look all. Oiled. Up.Chris and the new guy is going to be next big one. First Chris had Wesker and now his underling.
Chris and the new guy is going to be next big one. First Chris had Wesker and now his underling.
Oh god, Ryan Seacrest is totally a boy toy. I can see it now, the high school fan fictions where Seacrest comments how good Chris' biceps look all. Oiled. Up.
Luis was hot, can they bring him back?
I actually think they should make Chris gay. I don't recall him showing any romantic interest in any of his female partners, and I think it would be cool to have a gay main character that doesn't fall into the usual tropes.
Yeah, because there's no gay stereotypes about a muscular man...I actually think they should make Chris gay. I don't recall him showing any romantic interest in any of his female partners, and I think it would be cool to have a gay main character that doesn't fall into the usual tropes.
Oh I think Wesker was the one who got -burned- in that relationship, ohohoho!Only after Chris breaks up with Wesker because he was being an asshole.
I didn't say they can't or shouldn't be or that it makes any more or less sense for them to be white. You totally dodged my question, so now I will triple it.The game is getting more and more global and worldwide in terms of setting and you expect people to accept that the leads can't be more diversified?
Yeah, because there's no gay stereotypes about a muscular man...
All kidding aside, that would be cool, sincerely.
Oh I think Wesker was the one who got -burned- in that relationship, ohohoho!