jim-jam bongs
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Also people seem to forget that, though they have a smaller 1st-party, Microsoft's exclusives tend to kick the living shit out of the PS3 ones in sales terms.
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For the first time ever Xbox 360 tops PS3/Wii in Yearly global sales (14.9/14.1/10.3)
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jump_button
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dont see why they been nothing big for 360 only this year that i can think off and wii going out it not hard to do better then one that slowing down
planar1280
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Arcade is just a bunch of shooters and tower defense games
I am sorry but that just shows you have not even played 360 arcade games yet.
jim-jam bongs
Member
When did Microsoft shut down the Kinect division? "Big" is not defined as "something I am interested in".
planar1280
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I do wonder..most people buy the kinect but not many play it after a couple of playthroughs. How will that affect the purchase of kinect 2.0 and the next Xbox console bundled with it. People will know their experience was relatively short lived
AngelSoldier
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Oh yes, you got me !
Is it such a secret that Microsoft's exclusives are dwindling ? Or is it that people of a certain persuasion just don't want to hear it ?
I do that because it's meaningless to me. I had over 50 arcade games by the time I ditched my 360 and I realized that after playing each one once or twice I never touched them again. I think I played Shadow Complex the most because that actually felt like a real game to me, but even that got to a point where it went like a year without being played.
If it makes you feel better I don't count PSN either. I talk strictly big time exclusives when comparing the two.
Duane Cunningham
Member
I know I did my part by buying twice as many 360's as I did Wii and PS3.
which is to say my launch wii and 2008 ps3 still work
jim-jam bongs
Member
It's not really a secret, but the wording you used was probably needlessly provocative
The other thing is that exclusives are just fanboy bullets and nothing more. The amount of money being poured into the industry means that it's no longer necessary to jump into bed with a console maker in order to get the biggest budgets possible. In fact, it's arguable that you'd actually be better off going multiplatform because of the additional sales potential which is afforded by increased availability.
Monumental
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No I'm pretty sure it's the second one. Usually it seems to be the Japanophiles, who have largely pledged allegiance to the PS3.
You should probably just go back to posting about FFXIII-2 dude. Follow Takao's lead and just exit this thread. Because you just keep looking like a moron the more you post.
Still going...you're like the Energizer troll.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
I'm just confused at what that has to do with them leading 2011? Obviously they are doing something right.
It's always been known that MS has a small first party, heck, it's been that way since the Xbox 360 launched. It's never been a big deal.
They have their big franchises in Halo, Forza, and the like, and then they have exclusives through developers they work with. It's not a bad business model (obviously) it's just different than Sony.
Not sure why one has to be better. They both work.
There were a bunch of great SRPGs on the PSP and DS (Jeanne D'Arc, FF Tactics, Tactics Ogre, Devil Survivor) that were not targeted at the pedophile audience you seem to know so much about and be also accusing other people in this thread of belonging to.
AbsoluteZero
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Congratulations, Microsoft! Maybe you can pull it off in only 4 years next generation.
I kid, I fuckin' love my 360.
because niche exclusives only matter in message board list wars
in the real world xbox live and call of duty map packs can do more business than most things from their competition combined. MS' business strategy changed from last gen when they owned studios and churned out so called exclusives that no one outside of a select few cared about. Supporting 3rd parties and advertising them as 360 games first (COD, skyrim, madden) have benefited them alot this gen. plus you throw in the 1 or 2 big games a yea like halo gears forza and you get the results they are getting
I don't think anyone would deny that PS3 outpaces 360 in the quantity of exclusive $60 games. The real issue is it doesn't matter. Sony has gained no real benefit from all their exclusives this gen, and their exclusives mostly sell badly compared to MS's big 3 of Fable, Gears and Halo.
Exclusives are nice for hardcore gamers to compare lists with, but to the mainstream, unless you're Nintendo, they don't mean much.
Just because you don't play them doesn't mean they don't exist. I spent more time playing Trials HD than any PS2 game (and that includes several JRPGs like DQ8, Lucifer's Call or Persona 3).
gaming_noob
Member
Just imagine if MS actually had decent 1st party. Does that scare you?
Uno Venova
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Great for them I guess, I'm guessing it was a rush of casuals because of Kinect. Obviously can't be happy about them getting so much success by having little effort in core games and putting most of their energy into getting casual gamers and making the next app for Xbox Live.
What exactly is amazing about repackaging the same product in a smaller box and selling it to a huge audience MS previously ignored?
Why exclusives, when nobody pays for them? This is the generation of the multiplats. The bulk of the best-selling, most passively played games is multiplats. Solely Halo 3 and Nintendo games tied with the console would be suitable for such a list.
AngelSoldier
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It's not really a secret, but the wording you used was probably needlessly provocative
The other thing is that exclusives are just fanboy bullets and nothing more. The amount of money being poured into the industry means that it's no longer necessary to jump into bed with a console maker in order to get the biggest budgets possible. In fact, it's arguable that you'd actually be better off going multiplatform because of the additional sales potential which is afforded by increased availability.
Right, I apologize for my awkward wording then.
Ugh, Junior members, so quick to play the "troll card."
:lol
Actually MicroSoft's initial first party line up sold me on Xbox day 1. But as the years past (they lost more and more exclusives), and the hardware kept failing me (RROD) I eventually made the switch to PS3.
Monumental
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I like how you entered this topic by responding to someone not even talking to you. Then you go on about how you just played all multiplatform games on other systems and now you're gonna go on a crusade against XBLA games not being "real games".
You don't like DD games (yet claim to have have bought FIFTY arcade games), Microsoft Exclusives, and don't have a 360. Gotchya! You're really providing us with some great insight in this topic.
Obvious trolls, so quick to play the "juniour card".
:lol
This always makes me laugh. Xbox sales were totally because of Kinect! Casuals! Rawr!
The top selling games of 2011 were the following.
1. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 (360, PS3, Wii, PC)
2. Just Dance 3 (Wii, 360, PS3)
3. Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (360, PS3, PC)
4. Battlefield 3 (360, PS3, PC) Electronic Arts
5. Madden NFL 12 (360, PS3, Wii, PSP, PS2)
6. Call of Duty: Black Ops (360, PS3, Wii, NDS, PC)
7. Batman: Arkham City (360, PS3, PC)
8. Gears of War 3 (360)
9. Just Dance 2 (Wii)
10. Assassins Creed: Revelations (360, PS3, PC)
The only exclusive game on that list was Gears of War 3. An Xbox 360 exclusive.
Uno Venova
Banned
It makes you laugh that some people guess it was a popular add on marketed to casuals that drove up 360 popularity? OK.
I wasn't the first to say it. In fact it was said a number of times before me. I was just amazed by your persistence.
AngelSoldier
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If you're gonna pull this shit, you should at least spell right.
Most browsers come with a spell check ... right ?
I'm not trollin' though. Just a lot of poor interpretation and reading comprehension going on.
Wow..... Is this gamefaqs?
BenjaminBirdie
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I can't believe we're still having the exclusives arguments and list wars and people thinking that the reasons they ignored a 360 for the PS3 are in any way relevant.
However they did it (and there are a multitude of "how"s), the 360's biggest boosters are games like Call Of Duty. They're the brands associated the most with gaming in the West and they're the games that gave the same cache to the 360 as a console. "Blockbuster Game" exclusives are a meaningless sinkhole of money and investment. All they do is maximize the displayed power of a console and we've seen clearly this generation that such things are irrelevant to mainstream consumers.
If Gears went multiplatform for its next game, would the PS3 get a massive boost? Did it get one when Mass Effect went multiplatform? There might be blips here and there but I think this gen has clearly shown that the whole "I don't get it, the 360 has no exclusives" is wholly irrelevant in these kinds of discussions.
MS has leveraged their brand immaculately this generation and at this point, most of the big multiplatform games every year might as well be exclusive for how they boost the profile and the sales of the console.
However they did it (and there are a multitude of "how"s), the 360's biggest boosters are games like Call Of Duty. They're the brands associated the most with gaming in the West and they're the games that gave the same cache to the 360 as a console. "Blockbuster Game" exclusives are a meaningless sinkhole of money and investment. All they do is maximize the displayed power of a console and we've seen clearly this generation that such things are irrelevant to mainstream consumers.
If Gears went multiplatform for its next game, would the PS3 get a massive boost? Did it get one when Mass Effect went multiplatform? There might be blips here and there but I think this gen has clearly shown that the whole "I don't get it, the 360 has no exclusives" is wholly irrelevant in these kinds of discussions.
MS has leveraged their brand immaculately this generation and at this point, most of the big multiplatform games every year might as well be exclusive for how they boost the profile and the sales of the console.
You mean taking an immediate billion dollar loss, and giving everyone a 3 year warranty, while redesigning the 360, adding in Wireless N and more USB ports and continuing to develop the dashboard, Xbox live and associated services and offerings?
I think there was some serious screw ups, but they did the best recovery job of a brand I've ever seen, outside of the 1982 Chicago Tylenol murders/Recall.
Monumental
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Is there usually a space before a question mark? You're just acting like an idiot in this thread. I don't know what you're intentions are but you've been obtuse and purposely inflammatory, and everyone has caught on to it.
Man, 2008 and 2009 were some crazy years for the Wii. And good job on Microsoft, they've done fairly well at quickly adapting the Xbox over the course of the generation and taking action at the right moment, and apparently it's paid off.
This thread sure did turn away from the topic of the OP quickly...
This thread sure did turn away from the topic of the OP quickly...
Old Gimlet Eyes
Member
Completely on topic, definitely not trolling at all.
AngelSoldier
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Depending on where you were taught English, it is my understanding that, yes, you may put a space before exclamation and question marks.
jim-jam bongs
Member
And that's because they have the most popular exclusive feature this generation, Live. I think people underestimate the impact that will have going ahead, particularly when you consider that it has the potential to be a platform in and of itself. If the "Live experience" is unchanged in the next MS console they will have a far easier time migrating existing customers to the new machine, and can even use their social-marketing tool (aka your friend list).
Fixed that for you
I have two slims but pretty much the same for me. Though I mostly watch netflix on the ps3, for obvious reasons =p
I'm sorry, I don't quite understand =/
In the last week I've heard two separate people voice their concerns over 360's breaking down still to this day. People still think the 360 is an unreliable faulty system.
I'd say the damage has more than been done.
That doesn't happen here, either your team is winning or you do the best you can to downplay the other team.
It's to be expected though.
Well I think it's rather short sighted to be pointing to only casuals. All previous generations have had consoles that broadened their appeal and mindshare without people spinning it as a negative. What's the difference between MS broadening their market with Kinect and Sony broadening their market last gen with the EyeToy?
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
No.
I've been watching this movie so much lately so this made me almost fall out of my damn chair.
The latest data (I apologize in advance for approximating off memory) said that about 2/3 of 360 users connect to Live. About 1/3 of the userbase are paying customers (i.e. Gold).
AngelSoldier
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No.
See ?
When I learned English in Japan, we were taught to put a space before "?'s" and "!'S"
BenjaminBirdie
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Good point. That is an important exclusive this generation.
Hero_of_the_Day
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Nevermind, I don't want to bother with this anymore.