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Wii U Speculation Thread 2: Can't take anymore of this!!!
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Remember how Capcom said the Wii couldn't even handle the RE5 Title screen?
They had Resident Evil 5 up and running on 3DS.
They had Resident Evil 5 up and running on 3DS.
AceBandage
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Well, they have Ubisoft, at least.
They Ninjas got to them, though. They've been silent ever since E3.
what about the nintendo doomad stuff?
That wasn't so random at all.
Sounds pretty focused to me.
But you are right about the WiiU establishing a new hardware cycle.
And I think people underestimate what Nintendo has in store for HD graphics.
This makes the WiiU the more exciting console of the next generation.
After 11 years worth of HD gaming, can Nintendo still surprise us?
Can they make us say, "I never saw that coming!" ?
lordfroakie
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Gaf, what are the possibilities that...Nintendo buys Team Ninja, Crytek, and starup jp companies?
Grampa Simpson
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Absolutely nil. Iwata has found that when Nintendo buys companies, the tendency is that the heads of those companies (like Retro) tend to want to strike out on their own, and usually try and take the talent pool with them. I think that they've found that they are better off leaving other companies to be separate so that when philosophies drift, the other company can make a clean break instead of leaving Nintendo with a mess. Think Silicon Knights for example. Think Factor 5. For examples of owned companies, think Rare and Retro. Rare was a mess, and Retro has made some messes.
I think what they're doing with Monster is much better for everyone involved.
Doomad?
Graphics Horse
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The ejector seat stuff was reported as a Nintendo or ex-Nintendo employee.
But even if Nintendo wanted to make a second stick add-on, it's not even physically possible so I'm not sure why we're still discussing those rumours.
Super Smash Bro
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Since THQ stock is trading for pennies, how about we pool our money, buy the company, then give the IPs to Nintendo?
lordfroakie
Member
Evilore should buy THQ with that gaf money!
That reminds me.. I wonder if they will port Saints Row the Third to Wii U as a launch title.
Don't know the costs/debt related to that, but assume any little bit counts for them now.
Try to think of the dumbest, most idiotic baseless bullshit reason you can.
And then imagine something 10x dumber.
That would be why it wouldn't be on Wii U.
Well the question is open. Nintendo's history with third parties is what it is. And (re)gain 3rd parties love is one of the goal of the Wii U. We will be fixed soon. RE6 is a test, GTAV another one.
Smiles and Cries
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what is wrong with THQ? I do want a Saints Row 3rd for my Wii U that game needs me
I hope GDC is a good one for us in this thread
I hope GDC is a good one for us in this thread
Their market share dropped drastically due to udraw bomba on ps360. Now they are firing people and abandoning casual gaming in order to stay in NASDAQ.
Yes! I just got mine in the mail!
Kinda like I believe CliffyB and Epic will say that the Wii U doesn't support their next gen engine and then give no support :/
How could one bomba ruin a company so bad. And it was a casual bomba... as if that matters. But still. I don't get it.
Smiles and Cries
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was it really because of uDraw?
uDraw did so well on the Wii they should research the hardware install base casuals was a Wii thing
THQ got retarded and decided because Udraw appealed to the Market on the Wii that somehow designing more tablets and releasing them on the other consoles was a good idea. It has basically killed off the entire brand now because the PS360 bomba has wiped out the good the Wii version did
Well, market capitalization is 36 Million right now. How many Gaffers are out there?
Don't forget they also had the huge bomba that was Red Faction Armageddon this year, which killed the franchise.
They are so desperate now that I wouldn't be surprised at all if they put their biggest game on Wii U for launch, even if it would be a year late.
R
Rösti
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Then there is GTA VI for the next generation consoles from Microsoft and Sony respectively to take in aspect, and this leads us back to the path of discussing which console will be most powerful and if it would be profitable/sensible for developer X to bring title Y to Wii U. I personally believe the power ratio between the three next generation consoles will be similar to that of the sixth-generation era (Xbox>Gamecube>PlayStation 2). At least it most probably won't be such a huge gap as between Wii and PlayStation 3/Xbox 360.
If Nintendo would be able to persuade Rockstar to bring GTA V as a launch title for Wii U, it could mean much. And while unlikely to happen, a timed exclusive (let's say for one or two days) could certainly bring some early adopters (while probably angering those without interest for Nintendo's console). But I'm kinda thinking the same as you, TunaLover. With a predicted launch of GTA V in either summer '12 or autumn '12, Rockstar perhaps will feel they won't be able to deliver a certain quality to the Wii U version, at least if development hasn't started already.
fabricated backlash
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These tablets are quite expensive to produce, unlike other peripherals, you'll have very high prouduction costs. I don't know the technical specifications, but from what I've tried they have a very good amount of DPI and Pressure points so I'd say they're not cheap to make.
My dream would be Nintendo announcing a partnership with Wacom for the WiiU.
Get ready to pay 200 bucks per pad.
Rösti;34868432 said:
I would be pleasantly surprised if GTA V came out this year for any system, but the way I see it Rockstar and Take Two really have nothing to gain from launching this year and competing with Halo 4, COD, Assassin's Creed, Wii U launch, The Last of Us, Resident Evil 6, Medal of Honor 2 (probable) etc. etc. I predict March-May 2013, because then they have that time for themselves like usual and can have a huge launch.
We've seen over and over again.. Nintendo makes overtures, third party officials give vaguely-positive-but-noncommittal statements, obstacles to development/publication seem minimal, Reggie comments on his lobbying effort, and then..
"Announcing Good Game III, for Playstation, Xbox, and.. Nokia handhelds!"
No Nintendo console logo at the bottom of the ad. Hmm. Shocker.
Then, in the aftermath, we hear Paper-Thin Excuse #47 for why they decided to skip the Nintendo console this time around. But we can't talk about the b.s. excuse in the game's announcement thread too much.. lest you run the risk of being accused of port begging.
You guys seem way too trusting and optimistic, like the past decade never happened. Each time we said, "but this time is different!" only to find disappointment. I'd love to be very, very wrong on this.. but I'll believe it when I see it.
"Announcing Good Game III, for Playstation, Xbox, and.. Nokia handhelds!"
No Nintendo console logo at the bottom of the ad. Hmm. Shocker.
Then, in the aftermath, we hear Paper-Thin Excuse #47 for why they decided to skip the Nintendo console this time around. But we can't talk about the b.s. excuse in the game's announcement thread too much.. lest you run the risk of being accused of port begging.
You guys seem way too trusting and optimistic, like the past decade never happened. Each time we said, "but this time is different!" only to find disappointment. I'd love to be very, very wrong on this.. but I'll believe it when I see it.
AceBandage
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You're comparing two completely different industries, though.
This is not 2000 and this is not the Wii.
-Pyromaniac-
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Yeah I was gonna say, to be completely fair, the Wii was different.
It's pretty much confirmed it the wii U will decent third party support at launch and post launch. But keep thinking that.
Best drawing tablet ever. And cheaper than a Cintiq.
I admire your pessimism, but people should just stop hating Nintendo because they're Nintendo. They're weird, yes, and make weird decisions which aren't always to the benefit of...anyone. But the company's "wildcard" nature and unpredictability is whats keeping the competition going, instead of making it go into another crash.
In short, we await what is Nintendo's answer to "so what's after motion controls and HD?". Even with the unviel, the answers are not all that clear ("It's a fucking tablet! OMGNINTENDODOOMED!!!!!11").
AceBandage
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Speaking of which, I hope that an ArtStyle type program is pre-loaded on the U.
Sorry.. ten years of hearing bullshit makes a man jaded. Tough to keep myself in check. But like I said, if I'm wrong, I'll be elated to be wrong.
(And hating Nintendo seems to be an industry-wide pasttime sometimes. Very tiresome.)
In a way, the optimism leading-up to this launch is echoing what we heard running-up to the Wii launch. Third party offerings were kinda decent around the Wii launch time frame, but the dropoff in games output in following years is what really irks me.
In a way, I really hope that Sony brings its own tablet/Vita control scheme to the PS4 so that the Nintendo-Has-a-Tablet-Controller Excuse becomes less viable.
AceBandage
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No, the Wii never had the kinds of third party games that have already been announced for the Wii U.
TheExplodingHead
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I want a really good level editor on the tablet, meshed with a really good ArtStyle program. Could really be great.
CoffeeJanitor
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I followed the entire thing closely and I was really confused, so I disagree.
I think some are remembering Wii launch as worse in hindsight. Remember, at time of launch noone had HDTV and the graphics looked pretty good cos 360 and ps3 didnt look that much better yet. and it didnt even matter anyway cos everyone was soo blown away by the idea of motion controls.
I think you sort of misunderstood me HylianTom. I never made these optimistic statements about WiiU. In fact, I mostly keep to the topic about speculating what features it may include. If anything, I am in a "wait-and-see" approach. I prefer to have some concrete facts rather than daydream the lineup ("ZOMG RETRO ZELDA!"). In fact, I really don't know if I should care if it has HD Zelda, since its pretty much a given. What I do care is what this system can offer that no other console in the market can or will.
But so far the lid is sealed shut and understandibly so. Even bgassasin's compilation is just a list of "facts" from various "confirmed" sources. The truth is hardware keeps changing until the last second.
But so far the lid is sealed shut and understandibly so. Even bgassasin's compilation is just a list of "facts" from various "confirmed" sources. The truth is hardware keeps changing until the last second.
Eh, I wouldn't say that the graphics looked pretty good. I can remember being pretty blown away when I first saw PS3 and 360 games, even if they were early. Wii's best looking game was a gamecube port (a very good looking one, but still), and everything else looked pretty average to me.
Lord Ghirahim
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Wii U should have a relatively easy time in Japan, thanks to DQX. It might even get some numbered FF as a multiplat. In the West... moneyhats?
AceBandage
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Eh, getting FF isn't that big of a deal.
The franchise is slowly dying thanks to SE's ineptitude.
The Wii U already has a better third-party support (Darksiders 2, Arkham City, Lego Cities, Metro: Last Light, Colonial Marines,) than the Wii ever did.
True, but now that the mainlines FF are multi-plat, I don't see why it can't come to Wii U.
AceBandage
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Bombillazo
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Mini Discs...
It was a Hardware limitation that would ultimately break gameplay.
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