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The Formula 1 2011/2012 Off-Season Thread |OT| The Year of the Red Bull

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Awesome, finally after months of lurking, I get to post as well.

Big fan of Sunhi here, just logged in to get that said!


2012 ranked from nice to b*tt-ugly :
McLaren - Lotus - FI - Ferrari - Caterham

any thoughts?
 
Awesome, finally after months of lurking, I get to post as well.

Big fan of Sunhi here, just logged in to get that said!


2012 ranked from nice to b*tt-ugly :
McLaren - Lotus - FI - Ferrari - Caterham

any thoughts?

Welcome, you're wrong!

The FI is much uglier than the Ferrari.
 

Lucius86

Banned
What is it with you lot? That white and red McLaren livery is pretty awful - the current one is MILES better.

GAF1, you boys really are an odd bunch. Just join the rest of us normal people in the Webber fan club.
 
Today/tonight:

Sauber C31 launch - 10:00 GMT (9pm AEST)
Red Bull RB8 launch - 13:00 GMT (Midnight AEST)
Toro Rosso STR7 launch - 16.30 GMT (3.30am AEST)

The lotus E20 may also get shown off to photographers as well, or maybe not. The reports are conflicting.

My order so far:

McLaren-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------->Ferrari--->The other two
 

alba

Little is the new Big
To me, the only good looking car so far is the McLaren, any thing else so far has been ugly.

Pretty much. The only question now is seeing the performance of it and I hope they won't get punished because of it. I hope it's the other way around so we don't get all those damn ugly noses, grrr :D
 
What is it with you lot? That white and red McLaren livery is pretty awful - the current one is MILES better.

GAF1, you boys really are an odd bunch. Just join the rest of us normal people in the Webber fan club.

Looks like bad taste seems to be a Webber fanboy thing, surprising no one.
 

Caramello

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Today/tonight:

Sauber C31 launch - 10:00 GMT (9pm AEST)
Red Bull RB8 launch - 13:00 GMT (Midnight AEST)
Toro Rosso STR7 launch - 16.30 GMT (3.30am AEST)

The lotus E20 may also get shown off to photographers as well, or maybe not. The reports are conflicting.

My order so far:

McLaren-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------->Ferrari--->The other two

Awesome, I was waiting for midnight for the Red Bull, didn't know about Sauber, will definitely check that out and Toro Rosso will probably have to wait for the morning depending on how exam revision goes tonight :p
 

Adamm

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McLaren--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<Ferrari---<The other two
I know the Caterham is bad, but to not include it your list seems harsh :p

McLaren -> Lotus - > Ferrari - > FI - > Caterham
 

Lucius86

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Looks like bad taste seems to be a Webber fanboy thing, surprising no one.

Please. That R&W McLaren is nothing compared to the silver one we actually have. I know everyone has their own tastes, but I can't understand what could even make someone think that is better.

I think you're just jealous Webber has had action with Paris Hilton - plus most likely every fit woman under the sun.

I know the Caterham is bad, but to not include it your list seems harsh :p

McLaren -> Lotus - > Ferrari - > FI - > Caterham

For the record, think the FI is worse than the Caterham. Else I agree.
 
I know the Caterham is bad, but to not include it your list seems harsh :p

McLaren -> Lotus - > Ferrari - > FI - > Caterham

Completely forgot about the lotus, even though I mentioned it two lines above it! The lotus is somewhere between the Ferrari and Mac, but still a lot closer to the Ferrari. The FI and the Gatorham are terrible and should be immediately banned from racing anywhere.
 

Adamm

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Ugly!
 

Staab

Member
oh god, what have they done, the combination of the grey/black and the platypus nose is absolutely horrendous...
 

oipic

Member
Sidepods look tiny. So it's a tightly-packaged ugly, which is a step up from just plain ugly, right?

Any moderately-talented secondary school design or art student could do a better job with the livery, it looks astoundingly amateur in these shots.

EDIT: slightly better in the studio shots, where a little more fine detail can be seen...but still. Horribly uninspired.
 

Adamm

Member
I like the livery. Matte black + shiney white = awesome!

EDIT: New looks ratings!

McLaren > Lotus > Sauber > Ferrari > Force India > Caterham
 

Edmond Dantès

Dantès the White
This may well be Kobayashi's final season in F1 if he doesn't impress. If he can't beat Perez throughout the course of a season... well, the current stalwarts of F1 will certainly be looking elsewhere.
 
I'd love to see comparison shots between the Sauber and the Ferrari. The nose looks pretty similar, afaik.

Edmond Dantès;34881934 said:
This may well be Kobayashi's final season in F1 if he doesn't impress. If he can't beat Perez throughout the course of a season... well, the current stalwarts of F1 will certainly be looking elsewhere.

Eh, last season Kobayashi beat Perez like a Webber.
 

Edmond Dantès

Dantès the White
Jon Noble
Just spotted the Toro Rosso nose in the pitlane. It joins the stepped trend. Let's see the full car later on
Looking ever increasingly likely that McLaren will be the only team with a conventional looking nose.
 

Shaneus

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I still think Red Bull is foolish for not giving the Toro Rosso cars the diet Red Bull livery.

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If I saw Ricciardo rock up in this... fffffuck yeah. Very reminiscent of the Mild Seven Renault.

What is it with you lot? That white and red McLaren livery is pretty awful - the current one is MILES better.

GAF1, you boys really are an odd bunch. Just join the rest of us normal people in the Webber fan club.
I like the idea of white and red, but it would definitely need to be tweaked from the very basic POC of that 'chop mclaren posted.


PS. Oh, Sauber. Another added to the list. The black parts look like they're actually hidden, taped-up parts of a prototype that will soon be revealed. Hopefully to be not as ugly as that shit.
 

Edmond Dantès

Dantès the White
I'd love to see comparison shots between the Sauber and the Ferrari. The nose looks pretty similar, afaik.



Eh, last season Kobayashi beat Perez like a Webber.
9-7 to Perez in qualifying, 9-5 to Kobayashi in race conditions, with 3 retirements each and a non-start for Perez is hardly Webber/Vettel territory. If Kobayashi's as good as people think he is; he should be trouncing Perez, but he's not. He's vastly overrated, just because he pulled off a few impressive overtakes early on in his F1 career.
 
Edmond Dantès;34882146 said:
9-7 to Perez in qualifying, 9-5 to Kobayashi in race conditions, with 3 retirements each and a non-start for Perez is hardly Webber/Vettel territory. If Kobayashi's as good as people think he is; he should be trouncing Perez, but he's not. He's vastly overrated, just because he pulled off a few impressive overtakes early on in his F1 career.

Last time I checked, Kamui had twice the points at the end of the season.

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Like. A. Webber.
 

aeroslash

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Can we expect more or less the same from Red Bull?

I think it's better to start thinking that the RB will be more like the ferrari than the McLaren..
 

Lucius86

Banned
Okay, I just heard from 'a friend' that he's heard the RB actually has a nose similar to McLaren.

Trying to find out who his source is, in case there's any truth behind it....
 

Risgroo

Member
OH GOD, take it away!
The duck nose+all black looks horrible, should've made the nose white instead.
All these stepped noses are worrying me, hope McLaren haven't screwed up.
 

Adamm

Member
Chances are mclaren have screwed up, they usually do. But they will get it working about 6 races into the season when its already too late.

Hopfully a team paints thier nose to look an actual duck, yellow with a few eyes - it wouldnt be hard.
Any team that do that would get my full support forever, even if its HRT!
 

aeroslash

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There's noway in any case that the McLaren will outperform the other teams because of the nose. I'm actually thinking the other way around. McLaren has used a more conventional approach than the others teams, and why would the other teams change its nose if not for more aerodynamic gains? (i know, the rules)

In my opinion and waiting for the RedBull unveil, the duck nose has to give more benefits than the more traditional one that McLaren will use.
 

modulaire

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I don't think McLaren will have a big problem.

They simply have a different concept than the competitors, and it was the same in this regard last season (and it worked very well for them). The front of their car is lower than the front of the other cars. That's why the get away with this nose in my opinion.

The other teams have a higher cockpit (like last season, too) and they have to use this bump.
 
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