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Wii U Speculation Thread 2: Can't take anymore of this!!!

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guek

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I do actually, which is why I don't expect a massive graphical leap. Everything Microsoft has said in the past year points toward a more affordable machine focused on Kinect.

While i'm inclined to agree, it's partially dependent on whether or not they're planning on packing in kinect 2.0 with all skus. I'm divided on whether or not that would be a wise decision.
 
MS will most likely show the NextBox at E3, and may have some tech demos to show but that's pretty much it. The full blowout will be E3 2013. If it were any closer to being out than that we'd know already because no one is worse at keeping secrets than MS.

My worry is they'll pull a Sony-style hypefest of five dimensions and tech demos that the final system won't even come close to rendering in real-time. People will see this and go HYPEHYPE I SAW THE GRAFFIX ON IT WUZ CRAYZEE AND ITS BLURAY WII U SUX GET OUT IM WAITIN FOR NEXTBOX!

From what I could tell, the tech demos and average-consumer hype for PlayStation 2 and its DVD playback feature had a strong impact on the Dreamcast's success. MS could be real sneaky if they wanted to one-up the Big N at this next E3. The same strategy might've worked for PS3 if it weren't for 599US$.

Also, missing everyone's Reggie avatars already. Sigh...
 

themadcowtipper

Smells faintly of rancid stilton.
Fair enough (and I probably missed that), but... still. :/ (Just not a good showing)

It was the best part of a boring e3 . Post after post of people saying how much worse the games looked then the ps360 counter part , only to have Nintendo reveal the footage to be from the ps360 versions. GAF reactions is what makes e3 great.
 
So I'm without a computer for a little while, and may be without internet for maybe 2 weeks... I'll try get fixed up for GDC just so I can briefly laugh in your faces as I win my bet, but it's likely it'll be difficult to post for the next week or two.

I'll be following the insanity as best I can, however, so wish me luck!

See you guys soon.

*Migrates to Mexico to avoid crushing insults when the inevitable loss of my account occurs*
 
So I'm without a computer for a little while, and may be without internet for maybe 2 weeks... I'll try get fixed up for GDC just so I can briefly laugh in your faces as I win my bet, but it's likely it'll be difficult to post for the next week or two.

I'll be following the insanity as best I can, however, so wish me luck!

See you guys soon.

*Migrates to Mexico to avoid crushing insults when the inevitable loss of my account occurs*

Haha, see ya later! Enjoy your time away from this madness.
 
So I'm without a computer for a little while, and may be without internet for maybe 2 weeks... I'll try get fixed up for GDC just so I can briefly laugh in your faces as I win my bet, but it's likely it'll be difficult to post for the next week or two.

I'll be following the insanity as best I can, however, so wish me luck!

See you guys soon.

*Migrates to Mexico to avoid crushing insults when the inevitable loss of my account occurs*
damn that sucks, you're gonna miss EVERYTHINGGGG
 

cyberheater

PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 Xbone PS4 PS4
So I'm without a computer for a little while, and may be without internet for maybe 2 weeks... I'll try get fixed up for GDC just so I can briefly laugh in your faces as I win my bet, but it's likely it'll be difficult to post for the next week or two.

I'll be following the insanity as best I can, however, so wish me luck!

See you guys soon.

*Migrates to Mexico to avoid crushing insults when the inevitable loss of my account occurs*

Hope to see you soon mate.
 
R

Rösti

Unconfirmed Member
Was it confirmed that the Tekken footage also wasn't representative of what Wii U can deliver in terms of graphics?

Here's the software reel for those who wanna have another look: http://media.nintendo.com/e3/_ui/videos/HW_sizzle.mp4

And Nintendo's E3 2011 media briefing: http://media.nintendo.com/e3/_ui/videos/E3_06072011_Nintendo_Press_Conference_English2.mp4

I'm eagerly excited for E3, though it would have been nice to actually attend this year, but I have no money for it, especially not since ESA increased the ticket price to a whopping $795. While the full Wii U reveal is what interests me most, seeing how Microsoft and Sony will combat Nintendo's deal is going to be a bombastic experience. Though I'm perfectly fine without Cirque du Soleil and underage fist bumps.
 

StevieP

Banned
My worry is they'll pull a Sony-style hypefest of five dimensions and tech demos that the final system won't even come close to rendering in real-time. People will see this and go HYPEHYPE I SAW THE GRAFFIX ON IT WUZ CRAYZEE AND ITS BLURAY WII U SUX GET OUT IM WAITIN FOR NEXTBOX!

This, of course, is probably what actually happens. Hell, Sony may decide to CG-it-up even beyond the Durango tech demos.

While i'm inclined to agree, it's partially dependent on whether or not they're planning on packing in kinect 2.0 with all skus. I'm divided on whether or not that would be a wise decision.

Of course it's a wise business decision. Just as with the Wiimote discussion earlier in this thread: if it's not in the box, it's as good as bunk to third parties.
 

themadcowtipper

Smells faintly of rancid stilton.
So I'm without a computer for a little while, and may be without internet for maybe 2 weeks... I'll try get fixed up for GDC just so I can briefly laugh in your faces as I win my bet, but it's likely it'll be difficult to post for the next week or two.

I'll be following the insanity as best I can, however, so wish me luck!

See you guys soon.

*Migrates to Mexico to avoid crushing insults when the inevitable loss of my account occurs*

As your doctor, I advise you to drink as much alcohol as possible to get through the two weeks without internet, gaf ,and porn. It will be tuff to do it cold turkey.
 

cyberheater

PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 Xbone PS4 PS4
So I'm without a computer for a little while, and may be without internet for maybe 2 weeks... I'll try get fixed up for GDC just so I can briefly laugh in your faces as I win my bet, but it's likely it'll be difficult to post for the next week or two.

I'll be following the insanity as best I can, however, so wish me luck!

See you guys soon.

*Migrates to Mexico to avoid crushing insults when the inevitable loss of my account occurs*

Hang about. Why are you going to lose your account?
 

guek

Banned
Of course it's a wise business decision. Just as with the Wiimote discussion earlier in this thread: if it's not in the box, it's as good as bunk to third parties.

Well it hasn't been bundled with every current sku and it seems to be doing fine.
 

Wolfie5

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My worry is they'll pull a Sony-style hypefest of five dimensions and tech demos that the final system won't even come close to rendering in real-time. People will see this and go HYPEHYPE I SAW THE GRAFFIX ON IT WUZ CRAYZEE AND ITS BLURAY WII U SUX GET OUT IM WAITIN FOR NEXTBOX!

From what I could tell, the tech demos and average-consumer hype for PlayStation 2 and its DVD playback feature had a strong impact on the Dreamcast's success. MS could be real sneaky if they wanted to one-up the Big N at this next E3. The same strategy might've worked for PS3 if it weren't for 599US$.

Samaritan obviously.
 

Sadist

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GAF will hate MS confrence like always or should I say the kinect 2.0 confrence.
A bit oftopic, but overall the E3 showings since 2009 were a bit... meh. For the past several years it's always the same: they show footage of the new CoD game, the new Halo game, third party reel and afterwards it's all about extra features like Facebook/ESPN-like deals and Kinect games. I understand that MS is trying to evolve the Xbox into a multimedia machine, but they could freshen up their E3 briefing.

By the way, Sony has no surprises because of leaks and Nintendo is always a mixed bag. They have the best surprises though.
 

Wolfie5

Member
So I'm without a computer for a little while, and may be without internet for maybe 2 weeks... I'll try get fixed up for GDC just so I can briefly laugh in your faces as I win my bet, but it's likely it'll be difficult to post for the next week or two.

I'll be following the insanity as best I can, however, so wish me luck!

See you guys soon.

*Migrates to Mexico to avoid crushing insults when the inevitable loss of my account occurs*

Less than 2 weeks left, hope you can make it.

A bit oftopic, but overall the E3 showings since 2009 were a bit... meh. For the past several years it's always the same: they show footage of the new CoD game, the new Halo game, third party reel and afterwards it's all about extra features like Facebook/ESPN-like deals and Kinect games. I understand that MS is trying to evolve the Xbox into a multimedia machine, but they could freshen up their E3 briefing.

By the way, Sony has no surprises because of leaks and Nintendo is always a mixed bag. They have the best surprises though.

In my opinion, the one that has the most surprises wins E3. Usually Nintendo wins, because they have lots of Ninjas.
 

StevieP

Banned
Well it hasn't been bundled with every current sku and it seems to be doing fine.

Tell that to its software support outside Microsoft and Microsoft-funded projects. If Microsoft wants Kinect to take off (and they most certainly do) it's going to be in all of the boxes. Kinect 2.0, of course.
 
Microsoft's had a bad track record for like the past 2 E3's. Microsoft's obviously got Halo 4 but its been focusing on Kinect so much and Gears trilogy is over with. What else could Microsoft have up its sleeve unless its all playing us for fools with a big Xbox 3 announcement ?

Nintendo has the most to prove but it can easily disappoint us with the launch line up and what the graphics are really going to be like not to mention the pricing.

From the state of the last couple pages in this thread, it seems like the majority of people are dead set on believing the graphical bar is set pretty low, so I can't really see how they would be disappointed by what they already expect. I mean, you can't really be disappointed if you expect it...
 

fernoca

Member
From the state of the last couple pages in this thread, it seems like the majority of people are dead set on believing the graphical bar is set pretty low, so I can't really see how they would be disappointed by what they already expect. I mean, you can't really be disappointed if you expect it...
Yeah.
If anything, there's going to be the usual hyperboles related to no matter what the final specs end been; and how "one side" will group everyone into fanboys, blind loyalists, etc.

Heck, the Wii U could be announced to be 1 trillion times more powerful than the next Xbox, and people will still be talking about disappointment, "this is it Nintendo I'm out!!", "lol resistive SD screen", etc. :p
 

Ithil

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From the state of the last couple pages in this thread, it seems like the majority of people are dead set on believing the graphical bar is set pretty low, so I can't really see how they would be disappointed by what they already expect. I mean, you can't really be disappointed if you expect it...

Because that way they can both be "right all along!" and "sooo disappointed in Nintendo!"
 

DarkChild

Banned
My worry is they'll pull a Sony-style hypefest of five dimensions and tech demos that the final system won't even come close to rendering in real-time. People will see this and go HYPEHYPE I SAW THE GRAFFIX ON IT WUZ CRAYZEE AND ITS BLURAY WII U SUX GET OUT IM WAITIN FOR NEXTBOX!

From what I could tell, the tech demos and average-consumer hype for PlayStation 2 and its DVD playback feature had a strong impact on the Dreamcast's success. MS could be real sneaky if they wanted to one-up the Big N at this next E3. The same strategy might've worked for PS3 if it weren't for 599US$.

Also, missing everyone's Reggie avatars already. Sigh...
They outperformed themselves this gen in comparison with tech demos they showed at E3 2005.
 
that avy will getcha. is BP perma'd?

He's not, but he still has a little while to go I believe.

New article, we sort of already knew this was happening but meh, more confirmation I guess:


http://www.theverge.com/2012/2/21/2814253/nintendo-content-provider-meetings-wii-u

so yeah, we already knew this for the most part but it looks like they aren't testing the waters with their legs, they're cannonballing in.

Revisiting this post because it got swallowed up by the other stuff as there were some key things IMO from that article.

http://www.adweek.com/news/technology/nintendo-courting-media-partners-new-wii-138387?

Thus, the word is that Nintendo wants to take a page out of Xbox’s playbook for Wii U, which is expected to be the only major console launch in 2012. One source said that Nintendo is even considering a similar deal with Comcast to become a cable TV distribution.

Per multiple sources, Nintendo executives did arrange meetings with “a select number of top content companies” including multiple cable networks and Web video producers at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas last month, focusing on sports and music content.
In fact, Nintendo had previously reached out to a handful of Web video companies for the launch of the company’s underwhelming handheld device the Nintendo 3DS; the idea was to feature 3-D video content, but those talks went nowhere. Last week, Nintendo did announce a distribution deal with Hulu for the original Wii, perhaps a sign of things to come (officials at Nintendo declined to comment).

As for what content may end up on the Wii U, it’s early, as one source emphasized. “This is very preliminary,” he said. “It could go nowhere.” Why? For one, content is not in Nintendo’s DNA. The company has been perhaps the most reluctant of the big game device manufacturers when it comes to the media business. Another reason? The Wii has previously been a family-driven console, while Nintendo apparently wants to entice young males to the device—the same crowd drawn to Xbox.
 

guek

Banned
Tell that to its software support outside Microsoft and Microsoft-funded projects. If Microsoft wants Kinect to take off (and they most certainly do) it's going to be in all of the boxes. Kinect 2.0, of course.

Yeah, but it's still doing well despite all of that. I'm not convinced MS sees kinect as a serious platform and not as anything other than really good casual-bait.
 

andthebeatgoeson

Junior Member
From the state of the last couple pages in this thread, it seems like the majority of people are dead set on believing the graphical bar is set pretty low, so I can't really see how they would be disappointed by what they already expect. I mean, you can't really be disappointed if you expect it...

I'm expecting a console that will reasonable in price and competitive for 3rd party games. Nothing similar to the current gen HD twins. I'll be disappointed if it's close to the PS360.

Heck, the Wii U could be announced to be 1 trillion times more powerful than the next Xbox, and people will still be talking about disappointment, "this is it Nintendo I'm out!!", "lol resistive SD screen", etc. :p

Not me, if it's truly next gen and similar to '720', i'll be happy cuz I'll be saving $3-400 dollars next gen. Give me the usual Ninty suspects and things like RE, Batman and COD in HD, on the same system and I'm going 1 console future.
 

guek

Banned
Revisiting this post because it got swallowed up by the other stuff as there were some key things IMO from that article.

http://www.adweek.com/news/technology/nintendo-courting-media-partners-new-wii-138387?

Eh. I know they did something similar in europe (skytv, right?) but I can't see nintendo putting much focus on such things. It's nothing I'd personally get too excited about anyway. Is there anything really huge or groundbreaking they could do with content providers?
 
that avy will getcha. is BP perma'd?
I've asked this several times and I still don't know :/
They outperformed themselves this gen in comparison with tech demos they showed at E3 2005.
I think outperformed is going a little overboard but Sony mostly matched the target demo for Killzone. There were still some pretty outlandish demos like the Madden demo from that E3 that might not be matched next gen either but I wouldn't blame either Sony or MS for those.
 

Aguila

#ICONIC
I just want Nintendo to limit upgrades and peripherals. I've amassed so much stuff for the Wii (Wii remotes, nunchucks, a motion plus plug-in, a classic controller pro, a Wii wheel, and gamecube remotes). It's apparent that they want to continue using the Wii remote but hopefully that's where it stops.
 

guek

Banned
I just want Nintendo to limit upgrades and peripherals. I've amassed so much stuff for the Wii (Wii remotes, nunchucks, a motion plus plug-in, a classic controller pro, a Wii wheel, and gamecube remotes). It's apparent that they want to continue using the Wii remote but hopefully that's where it stops.

No way man. Those plastic doodads and thingamabobs might as well be worth their weight in gold for nintendo.
 

StevieP

Banned
Yeah, but it's still doing well despite all of that. I'm not convinced MS sees kinect as a serious platform and not as anything other than really good casual-bait.

http://www.bgr.com/2011/11/24/microsoft-kinect-tvs-could-go-head-to-head-with-apples-rumored-hdtv/

Microsoft’s Kinect motion and voice control system, currently available for the Xbox 360 and soon for Windows PCs, may soon be built into televisions. Microsoft is working on deals to license Kinect to TV makers Sony and Vizio

http://kotaku.com/5879202/sources-t...t-play-used-games-and-will-introduce-kinect-2

One source familiar with Microsoft's plans for the new Xbox said Microsoft plans to ship their new Xbox with a new version of its red-hot Kinect hands-free sensor system. The new Kinect would contain an on-board processor, a feature originally intended for the first Kinect. That processor would enable a new Kinect to more effectively detect users' motions.
 
Eh. I know they did something similar in europe (skytv, right?) but I can't see nintendo putting much focus on such things. It's nothing I'd personally get too excited about anyway. Is there anything really huge or groundbreaking they could do with content providers?

In the UK they have a BBC iPlayer channel, I would expect them to have it for the Wii U (unless they try and charge for access).
 

guek

Banned

That doesn't refute what I was saying. What I mean is I'm not convinced MS is going to be using kinect as a serious platform for video games. OS level level integration is guaranteed, but there's a big difference between how nintendo approached the use of the wii-mote and MS is using kinect. I don't know if MS is really all that concerned about the amount of content for kinect, just that it's well integrated into the system so they can use it as a marketing plot.

However, it does give weight to the idea that they'll pack it in with every system. I said I was inclined to agree that would happen, though not 100% sure either.
 

Nibel

Member
I'm pretty sure MS is going to show the next Xbox - but I have the feeling that this won't be a 100% gaming console.

Sony won't show PS4 and focus on Vita instead. We will see a God Of War 4 teaser, maybe a bit footage of The Last Guardian and of course an huge The Last Of Us presentation. It's going to be about software.

And Nintendo.. well, nobody can say anything because they are Nintendo.

You know what I miss so much lately? Those big bombs that the big 3 used to drop. Especially when they present it as "one more thing". I mean that FF13 on 360 bomb was crazy and everybody saw the Zelda TP video on YouTube which is also insane.
Miss those crazy moments.
 

guek

Banned
I'm pretty sure MS is going to show the next Xbox - but I have the feeling that this won't be a 100% gaming console.

Sony won't show PS4 and focus on Vita instead. We will see a God Of War 4 teaser, maybe a bit footage of The Last Guardian and of course an huge The Last Of Us presentation. It's going to be about software.

And Nintendo.. well, nobody can say anything because they are Nintendo.

You know what I miss so much lately? Those big bombs that the big 3 used to drop. Especially when they present it as "one more thing". I mean that FF13 on 360 bomb was crazy and everybody saw the Zelda TP video on YouTube which is also insane.
Miss those crazy moments.

Believe, man. We're going to war this E3.
 
ehh actually odds are Nintendo will "win" E3. Considering they probably have partnerships and lots of games to show off, probably a surprise or two in there, they'll win. MS will have the usual call of duty, and IF they announce a new console, they won't be announcing games this early.

WiiU got the hardware out of the way mostly, so it's gamesgamesgames for them. So they got this in the bag, assuming they don't fuck up big.

Yup, this ^^

Unless Microsoft decide to release the 720 this year (which imo is doubtful when you consider that they've announced that Halo 4 is being released for the 360 this year) they'll have a similar sort of E3 that Nintendo had last year - reveal the console, new tablet controller, Kinect 2.0, a tech demo or two and a sizzle reel.

Nintendo have got something else up their sleeves as far as the controller goes that they haven't revealed yet, news of their online infrastructure, they'll certainly have a Resident Evil 6 announcement imo, they're quite likely to have a GTA V announcement if Take Two have any sense and are bound to have playable demos available from first, second and third parties.

They have the potential to beat their 2006 E3 showing as the best E3 showing of all-time. I can't see Sony or Microsoft coming close to being as good.
 

StevieP

Banned
wow I always miss all the fun things (thanks bgassassin)

Where have you been? Make us all cry a little! haha

Yup, this ^^

Unless Microsoft decide to release the 720 this year (which imo is doubtful when you consider that they've announced that Halo 4 is being released for the 360 this year) they'll have a similar sort of E3 that Nintendo had last year - reveal the console, new tablet controller, Kinect 2.0, a tech demo or two and a sizzle reel.

Nintendo have got something else up their sleeves as far as the controller goes that they haven't revealed yet, news of their online infrastructure, they'll certainly have a Resident Evil 6 announcement imo, they're quite likely to have a GTA V announcement if Take Two have any sense and are bound to have playable demos available from first, second and third parties.

They have the potential to beat their 2006 E3 showing as the best E3 showing of all-time. I can't see Sony or Microsoft coming close to being as good.

Nintendo's not getting RE6 (if I read ShockingAlberto's codespeak earlier in the thread right), and for some odd reason I don't think Rockstar will take the extra effort to port GTA V (whether the Wii U is far more powerful than the 360, or 6 Wiis ductaped together, due to "lack of time").
 

lherre

Accurate
Where have you been? Make us all cry a little! haha



Nintendo's not getting RE6 (if I read ShockingAlberto's codespeak earlier in the thread right), and for some odd reason I don't think Rockstar will take the extra effort to port GTA V.

New revision incoming? :p
 

EloquentM

aka Mannny
I've asked this several times and I still don't know :/

I think outperformed is going a little overboard but Sony mostly matched the target demo for Killzone. There were still some pretty outlandish demos like the Madden demo from that E3 that might not be matched next gen either but I wouldn't blame either Sony or MS for those.

He's not apparently, according to bg
 
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