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crazy car accident driving in snow vs truck

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TheMan

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Semis have massive amounts of energy while they're moving, which is why people who think buying an SUV will make them 'safer' are silly. You will always lose against a semi.

i don't think anyone in an SUV expects to be safe in a collision vs. a semi, I think they expect to be safe in collisions vs. smaller cars.

also, that ill-fated SUV reminded me of when I used to make cars and planes out of legos and then drop them to simulate a crash...crazy to see a vehicle disintegrate like that
 
It's really a Nissan Frontier with a fiberglass camper. They are safe vehicles according to U.S. crash tests. Nothing is safe against a semi truck though.
 

Raistlin

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This is really nuts. It's like what happened to the Delorean in BTTFIII after the train hit it.
I guess a lot of vehicles built after the 70's just aren't terribly sturdy.
No, it's simple physics. Cars and SUV's aren't designed to be survivable in this type of crash because they can't be. Between the two vehicles, you're probably looking at 100MPH+ combined speed ... and this is before considering the incredible kinetic energy delta between the two due to semi's dramatically higher mass.

You might as well argue that a pre 70's vehicle would do fine being directly hit by a train. Yeah no.

as a general rule, most modern cars are more safe, not less






I didn't realize smarts cars were so top heavy.
lol so obviously fake
 

wolfmat

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You wouldn't really want to design with these types of force in mind anyway. At the current point of technology, it's pointless. You can't account for such power to keep the passenger alive. Even if you built a car that would keep its shape, the passenger would be smeared across the wall nearest to the point of impact because physics.
 

THE:MILKMAN

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Watch this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJrXViFfMGk (Its a crash test. No death.)

Yep. The Chevy Bel Air driver would be dead and the driver of the other car could of possibly walked away.

Also, the more bits that are flying the better with new cars. They are designed that way. Just like Robert Kubica's crash in Canada in F1 a few years ago.

I don't care about the trunk or hood! Only the passenger compartment.

Sadly, in the case of the driver of the Nissan in the OP, only a central barrier would have saved him.
 
What a shitty shitty highway design.

A lot of cities and states are retro fitting highways with divider/barrier technology.

First thing I thought of watching that clip was where are the separation barriers?

Unlucky driver, horrible way to go.
 
Looked like a car made of legos.

They hit that icy patch in the road divide and that's what got the ball rolling. Hopefully they died instantly and didn't suffer any.
 

Mangotron

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First video in a long time that's made me say "wow" out loud. RIP to the driver, I think panicking was probably what killed them though. It doesn't seem like they ever get off the gas, Gifs show wheels still spinning under acceleration. Also lucky that the car had enough momentum to push the truck the other way, since the car alongside it would've been smashed into the trailer if it jackknifed.

Interestingly this truck has the maximum safety rating for side impact crashes, it's not super cheap like you'd think by watching the video.

http://www.euroncap.com/tests/nissan_navara/317.aspx
 
Everybody and their mothers have dash cams here. Part of the society.
Why?

Edit: Well I guess this type of thing would be why.

So basically we could look at the SUV's dash cam and the truck's dash cam and see the accident first hand from two additional different angles.
 

Sarcasm

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Well over here the driving is insane.

Also you can turn in people that litter and get money.

It honestly makes sense to have one.
 

Rinku

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I actually had a very similiat episode where I drifted to the other lane on the highway, but i collided into a stationed car on the other lane.
 

seanoff

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well at least it was a quick death. that's about the only positive from that vision.

RIP driver. that was brutal.


same car v 3 pig road train. not much left.

crash-arnhem-650.jpg
 

derder

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Crazy. Glad that only the driver was killed in that one.

This autonomous car talk has had me thinking about how close we are all are to death on the roads.
 
Well over here the driving is insane.

Also you can turn in people that litter and get money.

It honestly makes sense to have one.
Russia right? I imagine it snows most of the year?

I live in southern California and a hard rain causes accidents and cars flipped over everywhere.

I drove in snow once and even driving slowly, my car slid sideways on ice.
 

BobLoblaw

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Well over here the driving is insane.

Also you can turn in people that litter and get money.

It honestly makes sense to have one.
I'd get one just for that. There's a lot of things that piss me off when I'm driving, but watching the asshole in front of me throw stuff out the window makes me rage.
 
A couple of Christmases ago, my family and in-laws were traveling from Saskatoon up north to the family farm. Me and my two oldest boys in my van, my wife, my youngest and mother-in-law following behind us. Snow conditions worse than the one in the OP's video. Some guy in a semi (fallen asleep behind the wheel, it turned out later) came barrelling past me by inches, drifted across the road past the other vehicle, and flew across the tundra into a huge snowbank, sending a sheet of white skyrocketing into the air. The snowbank actually saved his life, absorbing most of the impact.

tl;dr: driving in the snow = straight up roulette

I am guessing you are referring to Highway 11, the road between Saskatoon and Prince Albert, which is one of the most dangerous roads in Canada since it isn't twinned for long stretches, there's a lot of traffic, and the weather conditions can be horrible.
 

nick nacc

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This is just so sad..... I have now a new motivation to not give a shit how fast I get home. Forever kicking back in the slow lane. Relaxing
 
I drove from Edmonton to Calgary this morning on Highway 2, the conditions weren't bad at all but I have never seen so many accidents and people in the ditch in my life. I don't understand how some of the accidents happen, I think it's just carelesness. This just seemed to be an unfortunate inicdent where he hit a patch of black ice. Brutal.
 

dudeworld

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I drove from Edmonton to Calgary this morning on Highway 2, the conditions weren't bad at all but I have never seen so many accidents and people in the ditch in my life. I don't understand how some of the accidents happen, I think it's just carelesness. This just seemed to be an unfortunate inicdent where he hit a patch of black ice. Brutal.

carelessness because the majority of them are idiots. I live in Edmonton and people think their 4x4 raised-suspension heavy duty pickups will save them from their shitty driving (i.e. going too fast) when there's snow on the road
 
carelessness because the majority of them are idiots. I live in Edmonton and people think their 4x4 raised-suspension heavy duty pickups will save them from their shitty driving (i.e. going too fast) when there's snow on the road

I couldn't have said it better, we were driving in a car with just all-seasonals and it were these pickups that wiped out. It's just the "invincible" mindset.
 
carelessness because the majority of them are idiots. I live in Edmonton and people think their 4x4 raised-suspension heavy duty pickups will save them from their shitty driving (i.e. going too fast) when there's snow on the road

The only thing 4WD does for the average driver in the snow is get them going too fast to stop.
 

FyreWulff

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Looked like a car made of legos.

They hit that icy patch in the road divide and that's what got the ball rolling. Hopefully they died instantly and didn't suffer any.

They did. Whoever was in the driver's seat basically exploded and died before they even processed that the truck had hit them.
 

big_z

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I drove from Edmonton to Calgary this morning on Highway 2, the conditions weren't bad at all but I have never seen so many accidents and people in the ditch in my life. I don't understand how some of the accidents happen, I think it's just carelesness. This just seemed to be an unfortunate inicdent where he hit a patch of black ice. Brutal.

It was blizzard conditions over night into the early morning so I imagine some of those vehicles were done in then. The rest tend to be idiots rushing to work or suv/truck drivers who think they have god mode. Lots of cocky douche bags around here.


As for the OP video this is why I rarely change lanes if there is snow/ice dividing them. I really don't want to die in a car especially after a EMT friend of mine said most people bleed out painfully after the crash.
 

SRG01

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I drove from Edmonton to Calgary this morning on Highway 2, the conditions weren't bad at all but I have never seen so many accidents and people in the ditch in my life. I don't understand how some of the accidents happen, I think it's just carelesness. This just seemed to be an unfortunate inicdent where he hit a patch of black ice. Brutal.

carelessness because the majority of them are idiots. I live in Edmonton and people think their 4x4 raised-suspension heavy duty pickups will save them from their shitty driving (i.e. going too fast) when there's snow on the road

I was passed by numerous SUVs and trucks skidding along as they went past me. I only saw a handful of vehicles in the ditch though.
 

legacyzero

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I live in Wisconsin, and REFUSE to go traveling on the highway during conditions like these because of this very reason. Just ONE fuck up. JUST ONE and it could be lights out.

That's why I wish all highways and interstates had medians. This accident would have been alot less terrible (and less fatal, from the look of it)
 

Rad-

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Not to sound rude or anything but the car obviously had no winter tires. You really need to have winter tires in these conditions, otherwise it's like driving on ice.
 

Pachinko

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I drove from Edmonton to Calgary this morning on Highway 2, the conditions weren't bad at all but I have never seen so many accidents and people in the ditch in my life. I don't understand how some of the accidents happen, I think it's just carelesness. This just seemed to be an unfortunate inicdent where he hit a patch of black ice. Brutal.

I was on the road for only 15 minutes yesterday and 2 people just about crashed into me. I swear when the snow falls peoples brains just shut completely off behind the wheel of their cars. It's not like these near accidents were caused by weather related things either, they simply forgot how to drive- rules like right of way and well I don't know, looking before you turn left ?

Highway 2 I think people think they can still drive 140+ in spite of the conditions but you have almost no control over your vehicle if you lose even a small amount of control at high speeds and well, it ends with many of them sliding into the ditch. I recall in the last few winters that most cops on the highway will give ditch divers tickets for careless driving since , if you follow the speed limit you should never end up in the ditch.
 
I wonder if the driver of the car was texting or having a conversation on his mobile. Everytime I see people on the motorway who slowly cross line and I overtake they are texting or calling someone.
 

UFRA

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Not to sound rude or anything but the car obviously had no winter tires. You really need to have winter tires in these conditions, otherwise it's like driving on ice.

Even the best winter tires can't compete with ice. (unless they're studded tires of course)
 
That's fucking crazy.

Also the reason I never drive if it's too snowy/icey. I skidded the other week going 10mph after snow and even that scared the shit out of me, haha.

Thankfully it's a rare occurrence in the UK.
 
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