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[Finalow]

oh it's over :/, nvm.

 

[HK-47]

The point I'm making is lining up behind each other, immediately after two heroes got shackled by doing the same thing on the previous cool down, and yes I try not to line up after getting yelled at by Hyuna countless times for that exact action. Getting shackled to a creep sure, getting shackled to another hero, twice in a row, yeah, ok.

Then why does it happen all the time in pro games? Could it be shackleshot is a ridiculously op spell that comes out ridiculously fast?

 

[Coolhwip]

Mouz vs Xp now

http://www.twitch.tv/Dota2Replays

 

[Archie]

I'm so tired of Na'Vi dominating every team. When is China gonna pick up Dota 2?

 

[Neki]

I'm so tired of Na'Vi dominating every team. When is China gonna pick up Dota 2?

when farming becomes a viable strat again, amirite?

 

[RukusProvider]

Goddamn Na'Vi is badass. Destoryed everyone today.

 

[Haly]

when ricing becomes a viable strat again, amirite?

Fixed for racism.

 

[RukusProvider]

I'm so tired of Na'Vi dominating every team. When is China gonna pick up Dota 2?

Yeah, when can we watch an hour of farming followed by 1 team fight. Much more exciting.

Southeast Asian teams are much more fun with their aggressive playstyle.

 

[Swag]

It's not only the item build, he completely skipped aura + ult for more stats :l

Actualyl pretty common, cause when would you get the chance to channel against the stuns / force staffs they had.

Then why does it happen all the time in pro games? Could it be shackleshot is a ridiculously op spell that comes out ridiculously fast?

Even more OP when you make it easy to land them.

 

[Coolhwip]

I'm so tired of Na'Vi dominating every team. When is China gonna pick up Dota 2?

Never, they are too conservative.

 

[Ikuu]

I'm so tired of Na'Vi dominating every team. When is China gonna pick up Dota 2?

Valve need to get a Chinese partner first, so could be sometime. Should see more teams from Asia once Valve gets the client running on lower spec machines.

 

[HK-47]

What Chinese dota are you guys watching? Right now its all about pushing and chasing or 3 carry timing pushes.

 

[HK-47]

Never, they are too conservative.

more like when Valve gets the rest of the top tier heroes out and actually bothers to start aggressively courting the Chinese scene. More beta keys, more pushing the game at lan centers and internet cafes.

 

[Insured]

Mouz vs Xp now

http://www.twitch.tv/Dota2Replays

Trixi on a farming tidehunter, Sing tiny, must waaatch

Actualyl pretty common, cause when would you get the chance to channel against the stuns / force staffs they had.

I know, skipping aura not so much though!

 

[Sibylus]

There's just too many solid picks and team compositions for a single list to adequately capture the spirit of the metagame. I've watched basically every major competition since (and including) the International, and the trends vary so wildly that all I can conclude is that relative disuse has very little to say about a hero's overall strength in a lineup. Stuff like Dark Seer is a perfect example, he's been insanely powerful for a while, yet very much disused until a few months ago.

... Ah, good old Twitchtv. Will I ever be able to watch one of your streams on 720p? Not today. Perhaps never.

 

[BrLvgThrChmstry]

Some people will call me out for this, but ideally you don't want kills as bh, track means you get plenty for an assist. Gank the lane your hard carry is in and let them get the kill gold + track money. As a ganking hero he can catapult a carry into late game. By late game you're useful for your burst damage, scouting, and -armour.

Thank you sir, took your advice and my past 2 games as BH were AMAZING. First time I've felt very comfortable with a hero.

 

[HK-47]

Trixi on a farming tidehunter, Sing tiny, must waaatch


I know, skipping aura not so much though!

Aura has been skipped for a while now. Its increasingly common to just go for max nukes on CM over aura. Usually they take a point in it but some CMs just ignore it and take everything but aura.

 

[HK-47]

lol so many denies

Singsing playing dat SEA Tiny

 

[Ikuu]

Singsing with the big throws.

 

[HK-47]

Singsing with the big throws.

Thats one way to set up Ravage.

 

[Coolhwip]

more like when Valve gets the rest of the top tier heroes out and actually bothers to start aggressively courting the Chinese scene. More beta keys, more pushing the game at lan centers and internet cafes.

The chinese scene dont see dota 2 as a replacer for DotA, they see it more like a new MOBA-game like LoL and HoN. Sure it can be popular like LoL kind of is in China but it will never replace DotA.

 

[Insured]

Expect big tidehunter tosses!

EDIT: oh, way too slow

 

[Lactose_Intolerant]

lol, gg at 14 minutes. Mouz dominating. Sing clubbing fools

 

[Sibylus]

This week is exemplar as well: Silencer and today's Tiny pick, two heroes not often picked, but both highly capable of really setting up or turning around teamfights.

 

[Insured]

They ran that same tiny + tide combo to great success in a scrim vs complexity a day or two earlier (I don't think it was any mouz people other than sing though, I watched it on his stream). New trend picking up!?

AND picked up again!

 

[Lactose_Intolerant]

haha, tide tiny again. I doubt they will do as well this game though.

They ran that same tiny + tide combo to great success in a scrim vs complexity a day or two earlier (I don't think it was any mouz people other than sing though, I watched it on his stream). New trend picking up!?

AND picked up again!

Sing scrims with his friends too. They just have fun.

 

[HK-47]

lol fucking toss is so long range

 

[Gowans]

I've put Bootcamp on my new MacBook Pro to play this, hope it runs ok.

Having played in a week, I have some catching up to do, I need to read about this test app too.

 

[Artanisix]

Assholes laughing at MoM on Tiny.

They don't UNDERSTAND.

 

[Sibylus]

Commentator really should know better than to call the game that early. Even if Lifestealer gets big, his open wounds in a fight can be countered pretty heavily by Swap (or toss at worst). And Mouz still has huge teamfight potential.

 

[Neki]

tiny best carry

 

[Coolhwip]

EZZZZZZIEST game of his life

 

[Lactose_Intolerant]

Yeah, people laughing at MoM on tiny don't know the power of Sing. They are lucky he didn't get a tree and 3 hit a barracks.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

I've put Bootcamp on my new MacBook Pro to play this, hope it runs ok.

Having played in a week, I have some catching up to do, I need to read about this test app too.

i'm running on Bootcamp right now. it's like...well, it's Windows, like on any other computer. So unless you have a bad GPU, max everything should be fine (but turn off AA and VSync).

 

[Insured]

NEVER doubt the tiny.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

NEVER doubt the tiny.

Tiny is a damn beast. Dat throw. Dat stun. Dat everything.

 

[Sibylus]

Was Windrunner building a Forcestaff that game? I know CM had a Ghost Scepter on her by the end, which would basically have the effect of making Lifestealer even more narrow in his focus in fights. Forcestaff on WR would have made matters even worse later on, he'd have been left without any disables and gap closers of his own against a team with numerous ways of getting their people out of harm's reach. Why this aspect wasn't talked about at all, not even during drafting, is beyond me. It's as if the analysis went no deeper than "CLG has a standard hard carry, Mouz does not".

 

[n0b]

Was Windrunner building a Forcestaff that game? I know CM had a Ghost Scepter on her by the end, which would basically have the effect of making Lifestealer even more narrow in his focus in fights. Forcestaff on WR would have made matters even worse later on, he'd have been left without any disables and gap closers of his own against a team with numerous ways of getting their people out of harm's reach. Why this aspect wasn't talked about at all, not even during drafting, is beyond me. It's as if the analysis went no deeper than "CLG has a standard hard carry, Mouz does not".

Forcestaff is pretty much core on windrunner, and it was up midway through the game. Tbh thats always the problem with lifestealer as the main carry, yes he is ridiculously strong, but almost anybody can kite him. I think the main thing is the casters/cameraman obviously don't pay much attention to the pro players and know what kind of characters they play and what strategies they do. Sing plays carry tiny on stream probably once a day, and once that MoM is up his dps is no fucking joke.

 

[vocab]

when farming becomes a viable strat again, amirite?

You are right.

 

[Togglesworlh]

protip: be decisive when you're in the side shop

 

[Sibylus]

Forcestaff is pretty much core on windrunner, and it was up midway through the game. Tbh thats always the problem with lifestealer as the main carry, yes he is ridiculously strong, but almost anybody can kite him. I think the main thing is the casters/cameraman obviously don't pay much attention to the pro players and know what kind of characters they play and what strategies they do. Sing plays carry tiny on stream probably once a day, and once that MoM is up his dps is no fucking joke.

Indeed, I think it's borderline nuts to leave such a crucial aspect unspoken of. If Lifestealer gets countered with picks and items like that, he's virtually as dependent as someone like an Ursa for outside disables and kill setups. Perhaps get a Blink Dagger on Shadow Shaman and have Lifestealer piggyback him for the initiation, maybe borrow a page from some semi-recent Skeleton King play and grab a force staff oneself (or on a support).

 

[Lactose_Intolerant]

Indeed, I think it's borderline nuts to leave such a crucial aspect unspoken of. If Lifestealer gets countered with picks and items like that, he's virtually as dependent as someone like an Ursa for outside disables and kill setups. Perhaps get a Blink Dagger on Shadow Shaman and have Lifestealer piggyback him for the initiation, maybe borrow a page from some semi-recent Skeleton King play and grab a force staff oneself (or on a support).

Mouz were doing that in a scrim earlier today. They kept sending the Lifestealer in the beastmaster animals. It was hilarious so see a hawk sneak up on people and out pops Lifestealer.

 

[Gowans]

i'm running on Bootcamp right now. it's like...well, it's Windows, like on any other computer. So unless you have a bad GPU, max everything should be fine (but turn off AA and VSync).

Yeah ir runs fine, not as nice as my PC upstairs tho and I need a mouse now, this game is not for trackpads.

 

[Neki]

that's why I go basher blink dagger on naix, ez.

 

[Woo-Fu]

The point I'm making is lining up behind each other, immediately after two heroes got shackled by doing the same thing on the previous cool down, and yes I try not to line up after getting yelled at by Hyuna countless times for that exact action. Getting shackled to a creep sure, getting shackled to another hero, twice in a row, yeah, ok.

here's a little exercise for you.

1. Get a piece of paper
2. Get a pencil
3. Attempt to draw 2 points on the same side of that piece of paper, 2 points that cannot be connected by a straight line.

Good luck.

Oh, and try to do this while juggling cats.

 

[vinicius]

Is BUNNI a gaffer or does he just hangs on the channel? I saw him playing (I wasn't in the match) today and he kept to raging the entire game without doing shit and blaming other lanes from failing (he was mid), meanwhile all-talking and treating reports. What a clow.

Some time later I see him on the NeoGaf channel, made me laugh.

 

[Artanisix]

here's a little exercise for you.

1. Get a piece of paper
2. Get a pencil
3. Attempt to draw 2 points on the same side of that piece of paper, 2 points that cannot be connected by a straight line.

Good luck.

Oh, and try to do this while juggling cats.

This is a fallacious analogy because you neglect to mention that there are actually 3 points to take into account, not 2 (where Windrunner is located when she launches the shackle).

Your example works for single target stuns like Skeleton King or Sven.

 

[ksan]

Is BUNNI a gaffer or does he just hangs on the channel? I saw him playing (I wasn't in the match) today and he kept to raging the entire game without doing shit and blaming other lanes from failing (he was mid), meanwhile all-talking and treating reports. What a clow.

Some time later I see him on the NeoGaf channel, made me laugh.

coolhwip??

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[Haly]

I had no idea WR's shackle automatically looked for any enemy/tree within range of my main target.

And all this time I was trying so hard to line up these shackles.

 

[Neki]

This is a fallacious analogy because you neglect to mention that there are actually 3 points to take into account, not 2 (where Windrunner is located when she launches the shackle).

and the fact that shackle shot cannot shackle an infinite distance between two points.