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Kaladin

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Undertaker still has to fight Lesnar next year. When are the Briscoes ROH contract up? Last thing I was able to find was them signing a contract extension in Jan 2011, which I assume was for 1 year and should be up now. It would be really interesting to see them in WWE.
 

Kaladin

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I'm willing to bet Undertaker vs Lesnar is as much of a pipe dream as Undertaker vs Sting. I honestly don't see where Undertaker has to go after 20 - 0 beyond those two matches or one last run with Kane. This is truly the end.
 
Undertaker still has to fight Lesnar next year. When are the Briscoes ROH contract up? Last thing I was able to find was them signing a contract extension in Jan 2011, which I assume was for 1 year and should be up now. It would be really interesting to see them in WWE.

I miss hearing his music hit. Him and Batista were huge losses man. They has legit stars in both of them.
 
I'm willing to bet Undertaker vs Lesnar is as much of a pipe dream as Undertaker vs Sting. I honestly don't see where Undertaker has to go after 20 - 0 beyond those two matches or one last run with Kane. This is truly the end.

25-0? Honestly the guy will probably want to keep coming back year after year for 1 month, wrestle one 20-30 min match and collect his 1 huge payday for Mania, and then go back home for another year. He's got it good right now. If this was his final match they would be hyping it up much more than what they are doing, plus they will want his final match to be the focal point of that Mania, which it isn't this year with Rock/Cena.
 

Kaladin

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25-0? Honestly the guy will probably want to keep coming back year after year for 1 month, wrestle one 20-30 min match and collect his 1 huge payday for Mania, and then go back home for another year. He's got it good right now. If this was his final match they would be hyping it up much more than what they are doing, plus they will want his final match to be the focal point of that Mania, which it isn't this year with Rock/Cena.

I just don't see Undertaker lasting 5 more years. Even if he only works Mania. The Deadman ain't what he used to be.
 
It's not like many of his Wrestlemania matches were classics anyway. HBK got good matches out of him, but other than that many of them aren't memorable. The streak is it's own gimmick at this point anyway and more important than match quality. Match quality isn't that important and can be covered up with gimmicks like HIAC anyway also.
 
It's not like many of his Wrestlemania matches were classics anyway. HBK got good matches out of him, but other than that many of them aren't memorable. The streak is it's own gimmick at this point anyway and more important than match quality. Match quality isn't that important and can be covered up with gimmicks like HIAC anyway also.
I don't know, his matches with Edge, Batista, and Triple H (at 27) were arguably the best matches at their respective Manias. I doubt Undertaker would want to tarnish the string of quality of his last 5 mania matches.
 
I was there and I can attest that this is exactly what happened. The countdown happened and we (my friend and I) figured it'd be a returning Matt Hardy or something, Cena's injury would have him out for longer, but then it hit 0 and the wait between the countdown ending and the music hitting felt like forever. Then it happened. And the roof might have just exploded off. EVERYONE was cheering, myself included. My friend did not get caught up in the moment but that was an exception. It was THE loudest pop I've ever heard and I've got to 30+ shows in just the last 8 years. I'd argue it's the loudest WWE pop in the last 10 years besides MITB now maybe or a random Rock one. Amazing moment.

My section went pretty nuts as well...I was pissed off becuase i knew he was to win and ruin another event...this was going to be the first Cenaless show in NY in years and that fucker got us...Takers WM20 pop is probably my favorite but this was the best swerve i have ever been apart of.
 

Kaladin

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It's not like many of his Wrestlemania matches were classics anyway. HBK got good matches out of him, but other than that many of them aren't memorable. The streak is it's own gimmick at this point anyway and more important than match quality. Match quality isn't that important and can be covered up with gimmicks like HIAC anyway also.

I think after Batista @ 23, Edge @ 24, HBK @ 25, 26 and HHH @ 27, 28 people are expecting big Wrestlemania main event quality matches from Undertaker each year. If Undertaker had a match vs someone like Wade Barrett at Wrestlemania next year people would be disappointed. I could see vs Jericho or vs Punk for the streak being a draw, but I don't know if Undertaker has 5 years left of the kind of matches people expect from him.
 

Striker

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Give Taker credit...

How good a match could you have against Giant Gonzales, Diesel, Sid, Big Boss Man, A Train....
Bossman and A-Train were good workers. Sid and Diesel need guys like Bret Hart or HBK to carry them, but it isn't impossible.

Giants Gonzalez was a lost cause.
 

Cagey

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I just don't see Undertaker lasting 5 more years. Even if he only works Mania. The Deadman ain't what he used to be.

But he doesn't has to be.

He's plenty capable of wrestling once a year, if he so chooses. It may not be any good... but we'll watch anyway. Hogan just wrestled in October and Philadelphia went batshit for him v. Sting.
 

somedevil

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Bossman and A-Train were good workers. Sid and Diesel need guys like Bret Hart or HBK to carry them, but it isn't impossible.

Giants Gonzalez was a lost cause.

The Bossman match I don't even count it because all he did was hang him.

edit: I would love to see Cena vs Undertaker just to see Cena lose clean.
 

SoulPlaya

more money than God
I think after Batista @ 23, Edge @ 24, HBK @ 25, 26 and HHH @ 27, 28 people are expecting big Wrestlemania main event quality matches from Undertaker each year. If Undertaker had a match vs someone like Wade Barrett at Wrestlemania next year people would be disappointed. I could see vs Jericho or vs Punk for the streak being a draw, but I don't know if Undertaker has 5 years left of the kind of matches people expect from him.
I know it's me and all, but his match vs. Kane at WM 14 is arguably the best big man match in WWE history, with the possible exception of their Inferno match. Hell, probably the best big man vs. big man match that I can remember.
 
I know it's me and all, but his match vs. Kane at WM 14 is arguably the best big man match in WWE history, with the possible exception of their Inferno match. Hell, probably the best big man vs. big man match that I can remember.

It's a shame that none of the many rematches that followed couldn't top the first at WM14, in fact one could argue that WM14 is the only one that was genuinely good (Inferno is a nice spectacle though) and I say this as a man who holds Kane/Taker as their favourite feud.
More annoying is that their 2010 trilogy got kind of screwed by the pg rating and the fact the two don't mesh as well as expected , my long awaited Kane/Taker HIAC match was very non hellish and concluded in bewilderingly bad fashion with MAGICAL URN LIGHT BEAM or something. But hey at least Kane finally got some wins.
I'd still lap up a dvd of all their matches though, come on greatest rivalries dvd/blu-ray!
 

TheBear

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Never saw the WM match with Big Show and Mayweather. Did Mayweather legit land all of those punches? Big Show must be a very even tempered man.
 

SoulPlaya

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It's a shame that none of the many rematches that followed couldn't top the first at WM14, in fact one could argue that WM14 is the only one that was genuinely good (Inferno is a nice spectacle though) and I say this as a man who holds Kane/Taker as their favourite feud.
More annoying is that their 2010 trilogy got kind of screwed by the pg rating and the fact the two don't mesh as well as expected , my long awaited Kane/Taker HIAC match was very non hellish and concluded in bewilderingly bad fashion with MAGICAL URN LIGHT BEAM or something. But hey at least Kane finally got some wins.
I'd still lap up a dvd of all their matches though, come on greatest rivalries dvd/blu-ray!
Their last series of matches was screwed up by Taker's shoulder, which was so badly injured that they had to end the feud early.

You know, it's funny, but I think you're right. The rest of their matches have been pretty bad, but I think that has more to do with the circumstances surrounding it than their abilities together. WM 20 was a squash match, SummerSlam 2000 was actually a good brawl, their match after WM 24 was booked that neither wanted to hurt the other, their last trilogy Taker was injured badly, their seccond inferno match was good for a RAW match, the first time Kane won in 1998 against Taker was good for a RAW match, Survivor Series 1998 was actually pretty good.

Their worst match together has to be Judgment Day 1998. Just horrible booking, and incredibly slow. The match made no sense, and nothing happens. A couple blown spots too.
 
I kind of recall Summerslam 2000 being a bit of a squash too. Didn't Undertaker steal his mask or something?

:lol

The Undertaker/Kane thing at Summerslam 2000 was so fucking random. The match was supposed to be Big Show vs. Taker, but WWE got pissed at how obese and lazy Show was getting and sent him to OVW.

Then they just had Kane randomly turn heel on him the week before Summerslam, where they had a match that Taker won in about 5 minutes. Then he ripped off half of his mask and never acknowledged anything from it ever again. Kane was back the next night with his full mask and that was that. A few months later, they were all cool again.
 
Their last series of matches was screwed up by Taker's shoulder, which was so badly injured that they had to end the feud early.

You know, it's funny, but I think you're right. The rest of their matches have been pretty bad, but I think that has more to do with the circumstances surrounding it than their abilities together. WM 20 was a squash match, SummerSlam 2000 was actually a good brawl, their match after WM 24 was booked that neither wanted to hurt the other, their last trilogy Taker was injured badly, their seccond inferno match was good for a RAW match, the first time Kane won in 1998 against Taker was good for a RAW match, Survivor Series 1998 was actually pretty good.

Their worst match together has to be Judgment Day 1998. Just horrible booking, and incredibly slow. The match made no sense, and nothing happens. A couple blown spots too.
Oh yeah, forgot about Taker's injury, that's why they had him literally buried in the first place....and they never followed up on it regarding the Nexus.
The WM20 squash match is pretty fun in a way, even if Kane is booked like a coward which is plain silly.
Judgement Day 1998 was really more about Austin if I remember correctly and his screwy refereeing. Austin sure does a lot of guest refereeing, Foley as well.
Summerslam 2000 was just odd, random Kane heel turn for some reason with little build up, Taker swipes the mask at the ppv and that was pretty much it, they were the best of friends again a few months later.
Heh, I just remembered how gutted me and my brother were when Kane and Taker lost to the power trip at Backlash 2001, I feel that whole feud between those four is kind of underrated.

edit: Ah, an explanation for the SS 2000 thing, considering Big Show was taken off tv back in May you'd think they would have dealt with a backup plan a bit earlier.
 

SoulPlaya

more money than God
:lol

The Undertaker/Kane thing at Summerslam 2000 was so fucking random. The match was supposed to be Big Show vs. Taker, but WWE got pissed at how obese and lazy Show was getting and sent him to OVW.

Then they just had Kane randomly turn heel on him the week before Summerslam, where they had a match that Taker won in about 5 minutes. Then he ripped off half of his mask and never acknowledged anything from it ever again. Kane was back the next night with his full mask and that was that.
I never knew it was supposed to be Taker/Big Show. That actually explains a lot. Kane's turn happened so randomly and for no reason besides him being a "monster". There was practically no build up, and it wasn't but a few months later that Kane turned face again, and they reformed the BoD, lol.
 

SoulPlaya

more money than God
Oh yeah, forgot about Taker's injury, that's why they had him literally buried in the first place....and they never followed up on it regarding the Nexus.
The WM20 squash match is pretty fun in a way, even if Kane is booked like a coward which is plain silly.
Judgement Day 1998 was really more about Austin if I remember correctly and his screwy refereeing. Austin sure does a lot of guest refereeing, Foley as well.
Summerslam 2000 was just odd, random Kane heel turn for some reason with little build up, Taker swipes the mask at the ppv and that was pretty much it, they were the best of friends again a few months later.
Heh, I just remembered how gutted me and my brother were when Kane and Taker lost to the power trip at Backlash 2001, I feel that whole feud between those four is kind of underrated.

edit: Ah, an explanation for the SS 2000 thing, considering Big Show was taken off tv back in May you'd think they would have dealt with a backup plan a bit earlier.
Most of JD 1998 was Taker working over Kane's leg, but Taker just isn't that great with submissions, and it ends up being this low agonizing match. The crowd was really starting to turn on the match too, but thankfully, all the guys involved were so damn over.

Here is the full match in case anyone is curious. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZOBGtXDVGU
 
Heh, I just remembered how gutted me and my brother were when Kane and Taker lost to the power trip at Backlash 2001, I feel that whole feud between those four is kind of underrated.
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I bet Triple H will see this and book himself to get all three titles by himself.

Hey, it lead to Kane/HHH Chain match for IC title. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6OUU4MYafc
They should really do more chain matches lol. Love that chair spot.
 

SoulPlaya

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Oh yeah, forgot about Taker's injury, that's why they had him literally buried in the first place....and they never followed up on it regarding the Nexus.
The WM20 squash match is pretty fun in a way, even if Kane is booked like a coward which is plain silly.
Judgement Day 1998 was really more about Austin if I remember correctly and his screwy refereeing. Austin sure does a lot of guest refereeing, Foley as well.
Summerslam 2000 was just odd, random Kane heel turn for some reason with little build up, Taker swipes the mask at the ppv and that was pretty much it, they were the best of friends again a few months later.
Heh, I just remembered how gutted me and my brother were when Kane and Taker lost to the power trip at Backlash 2001, I feel that whole feud between those four is kind of underrated.

edit: Ah, an explanation for the SS 2000 thing, considering Big Show was taken off tv back in May you'd think they would have dealt with a backup plan a bit earlier.
Hey, it lead to Kane/HHH Chain match for IC title. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6OUU4MYafc
 
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