ClovingWestbrook
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Wii U Speculation Thread 2: Can't take anymore of this!!!
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Don't know who they are but...
What do you guys think the likelihood is that the Wii U will be able to run multiple games simultaneously? I don't mean title-specific instances like if two people are playing Wii U Sports Olympics and one person is using WM+ to play bowling on a TV while a second player's using the Upad to steer in the racing mini-game. What I'm suggesting is, one person's playing Mario Kart Double Dash on the TV and another is playing Crazy Taxi on the Upad and their using the same Wii U.
I don't know how taxing this generation's Wii-Ware, VC or Mii games are or how powerful the Wii U's tech will be, but I'd be pleased if Nintendo managed to pull it off. Would be a very strong selling point for families on tight budgets and in cramped quarters, and would give them an edge over their competitors.
I don't know how taxing this generation's Wii-Ware, VC or Mii games are or how powerful the Wii U's tech will be, but I'd be pleased if Nintendo managed to pull it off. Would be a very strong selling point for families on tight budgets and in cramped quarters, and would give them an edge over their competitors.
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Rösti
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Just a small update on GDC: A countdown has appeared on http://www.gdconf.com, it counts down to 03/05/2012 04:59 GMT. That converts to Sunday, March 4th, 20:59:00/8:59 pm PST. I can see no event starting or ending then via http://www.gdconf.com/attend/hourslocation.html, so I have no idea what exactly it counts down to. But GDC starts anyway on Sunday, the expo starts on Wednesday.
H_Prestige
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$300 is a fair price. I do expect ps3 and 360 price cuts though.
Bombillazo
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One whole GB of RAM for debugging? maybe in the past doubling was necessary but nowadays I'd say 1.5GB for the console plus 512 MB debugging sounds about right
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radioheadrule83
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Isn't OLED lower power consumption? That'd be the only reason they'd go with it imo..
tkscz
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Oh no, it's rumor season again.
but it's also extremely expensive. Even at the size of the Wii-U controller.
but it's also extremely expensive. Even at the size of the Wii-U controller.
Smiles and Cries
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$299 is an easy guess so even if it holds true I don't see it making the source valid.
but if OLED is true then that site goes in my bookmark for all WiiU news
but if OLED is true then that site goes in my bookmark for all WiiU news
themadcowtipper
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I just posted what the guy who saw the kit said. Ihere was the one who said the ram is double in th kit for debugging , so take it up with him if you have a problem with it.
We can say with 100% absolute certainty that it's a definite maybe.
Honestly I don't expect Unisoft making a Wii U specific outing, so I guess.
comedy bomb
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Aren't they?
So now the screen is Oled with haptic touch? Do work Nintendo.
Are you saying I should not be paying someone to come to my house to read WiiUDaily out loud to me twice an hour? Pfft.
Bombillazo
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I didnt blame you Im just saying what makes the most logic to me
1.5 GB RAM would be idea considering its 3 times what 360 now packs
Absolutely no chance whatsoever. Not enough horsepower, RAM, bus bandwidth, or OS complexity to run two unrelated games at the same time. It could only be done cooperatively (two games designed to run together at the same time, as you described in your first example).
EDIT: WRONG!!! I didn't realize Mitsurugi was asking about running multiple GC games. I thought he was asking about running multiple Wii U games. I get a zero for reading comprehension. Sigh.
Well, they better be taking a loss/break even approach if they release at that point. I don't want a large day one profit made on a $299 system with a tablet controller because I'll be giving up a lot elsewhere for that I imagine.
Smiles and Cries
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While I agree it probably won't happen, it wouldn't be due to any of the reasons you've listed.
I don't believe it will be OLED. Nintendo likes to go with cheap tech as long it gets the job done so it can avoid expensive manufacturing costs.
$300 would be very reasonable ,but I'd be surprised it doesn't turn out to be $350. However, Iwata said that Wii U would be "expensive" in comparing its potential price to that of the Wii's which launched at $250.
$300 would be very reasonable ,but I'd be surprised it doesn't turn out to be $350. However, Iwata said that Wii U would be "expensive" in comparing its potential price to that of the Wii's which launched at $250.
Wow. I'm impressed. I underestimated the Wii U's capability. Thanks for the correction.
Bombillazo
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to me, 350 is the magic number
if Nintendo can show gamers that Wii U is indeed next gen not only in the new controller but in power and features, the 350$ priceline can be justified
People are seriously thinking that OLED is a possibility for the Wii U? What the fuck? The article didn't hint at that at all and it would be way to expensive. This is a 6,2" screen. It would increase the systems price by 50-100 bucks easily and OLE-Display don't have a long life either, that's why they're used by smarphones and not something that you want to keep using for half a decade.
A multi-core system running two games at the same time isn't all that unbelievable.
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Nobody's seriously thinking it will be an OLED except whoever is running that crummy blog.
If I recall, lherre said that his devkit had 2GB, and that devkits always had at least double the ram for debugging. For some reason, people in this thread took that as the retail units having at least half the ram of the devkits, which is the opposite.
According to what he said (I'll see if I can go back and find it), if the devkit had 2GB, the retail unit should have 1GB MAXIMUM, not minimum. I could be remembering wrong, but I don't think so. I couldn't comment at the time, though, because I wasn't approved yet.
Nah 1GB minimum was his comment. The devkits out there have 2GB or more, which is 1.5GB is a likely option as well.
Shin Johnpv
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As BG already stated, not only is it basically being rendered twice, but we're also seeing a level of lighting that is far and above what's been seen on the PS360. I think to get that running on the PS360 would require a large drop in image quality of the lighitng effects. Which to some people wouldn't be that big of a deal to others it would stand out big time.
I think this is where the concepts of diminishing returns, and where I see some of the issues people will have with next gen. I think next gen theres going to be this huge improvement in lighting models, and lighting effects. Though to the average person I think that stuff isn't going to be as noticeable, as say the jump in resolution from SD to HD.
Is this one real?
It's real I own one.
Whatever the total amount of RAM is, not all of it would be available to developers. Having a 2GB debugger for a 1GB system would be feasible because devs wouldn't be using every bit of that RAM in the first place.
Reggie Fils-Aime said:For consumers who want to have the latest gadgets and have a higher disposable income, thats for the Wii U. We havent announced pricing or availability or any other details, but given the current pricing of the Wii, its not going to be there.
$399. You read it here first.
^ I don't mind paying $399 if it's powerfull enough, future proof console.
It's just one version, it is splited in two, somewhere there's the extended trailer which show it completely.
It's just one version, it is splited in two, somewhere there's the extended trailer which show it completely.
Found it.
Okay, I remember why I thought it was so weird. He says if the kits have 10 GB, the retail range is 4-5 GB (half or less). But then he says if the kits have 2GB, the retail range is 1GB or more (half or more).
It was definitely a mixed message, probably due to broken English. He does explicitely say that it can't be less than 1, but by his own logic and example, it can't be more than 1.
So I don't know.
lherre said:I can't speak about all the questions/details here but devkits have double memory amount than future retail hardware (is "usual" with the devkits because they need extra memory for debug purposes), the thing with this is that like memory amount is in an open range now (not closed) they have the "better" choice right now (I mean in the range the higher amount in the devkits). For example, if Wii U memory range is 4-5 gb, the kits have 10 gb instead 8 gb. So as I said before that memory can't be less than 1 gb, the kits have at least 2 gb(is higher of course because this is the lower value of the range).
Okay, I remember why I thought it was so weird. He says if the kits have 10 GB, the retail range is 4-5 GB (half or less). But then he says if the kits have 2GB, the retail range is 1GB or more (half or more).
It was definitely a mixed message, probably due to broken English. He does explicitely say that it can't be less than 1, but by his own logic and example, it can't be more than 1.
So I don't know.
There were a lot of visual improvements to the show floor version in comparison to the one in the demo reel. That demo reel was obviously prepared way in advance of E3 itself.
OLED or not, my bottom line is this: I hope that Nintendo continues to make its stuff durable. Long-lasting. I'm a biiiig ol' whore for well-made gaming systems. I have two external fans on my console going at all times, just to prevent/minimize heat issues.
I want to be able to turn-on the machine 20 years from now and still have it work, like my 2600 or my NES. It's a tough order, especially with moving parts involved, but it can be done.
(and I still think that $350 is the sweet spot!)
I want to be able to turn-on the machine 20 years from now and still have it work, like my 2600 or my NES. It's a tough order, especially with moving parts involved, but it can be done.
(and I still think that $350 is the sweet spot!)
The nature/garden/bird demo Reggie showed at the presentation had no shadows on the tree branches, and was from a very early build. The one on the showroom floor (link below) was an updated version and had those shadows as well as some other enhancements.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OHUwDShrD4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OHUwDShrD4
I don't think you want OLED then.
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