That was the option I was thinking of -- I think I've heard the same thing from other people, even though I don't remember experiencing that problem myself.
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Project CARS (crowdsourcing) racing sim by Slightly Mad Studios (fully funded 3.75M)
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bee
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just tried it for the first time this year i think, its still a screenshot generator not a sim :/ something still really off about the handling/physics, for once i've actually driven one of the cars in real life, the ariel atom. The game car and the real car share almost nothing in common
will try it again in a few months, plenty of time to go yet
will try it again in a few months, plenty of time to go yet
mclaren777
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Doesn't need to be.
If you get a chance, would you mind posting your car/control profile from CARS, which version you tried, and what controller(s) you were using? I assume you also deleted any previous profiles on installing the new version (that should be the installer default).
Some people seemd to love how the ariel atom drives, but maybe they liked it because it was unrealistic. I don't know if they are still getting his input, but the CARS team had at least one "pro" real life racer occasionally testing their equipment as far as I know, so hopefully that sort of feedback has helped them.
bee
Member
sure will post it later when i get in, was using a g25 and modded pedals, didn't delete anything as that was definitely the 1st time i've played it on this windows install
I hope so, it is a game after all and shouldn't be work.
Otherwise I don't know how realistic it is to fly off the course in every second curve like in some "sims".
What does that even mean? Of course it's realistic. If you took a turn going way too fast in real life, you'd fly off the course too.
I actually find real sims in some ways easier to drive than arcade sims. At least I know what the rules are and am don't have to figure out where I can game the system and defy reality. There's a consistency that I like.
I hope someone can help you, or maybe we can find a sample program in the forum. I just thought I'd seen some people give favorable opinions of the atom, but I don't actually know which cars are supposed to be more realistic and which are less realistically implemented at this point.
Mostly I was asking for some details because it's really hard for us to help (or the devs to fix anything) if comments are limited to something like "The game car and the real car share almost nothing in common", especially since there are so many tunable factors at the moment.
Sorry you had a bad experience though.
mclaren777
Member
Let's not get into this argument again. It didn't end well on the WMD forums and I don't see it doing any better here.
pCARS is what it is.
pCARS is what it is.
Foliorum Viridum
Banned
In reality I'd never be able to start an F1 car without stalling. In pCARS, I can fly around the track in the Formula A car at 200mph. It doesn't feel perfect - yet - but already the foundation of a satisfying driving model is there. They seem to be going for the balance between fun and sim, which is what I want. If I can never do a clean lap then I'm never going to have fun.
For what is worth, true sims are never true and are unfairly dificult for one reason: If they are simulating the reaction of the car faithfully, you will be unable to make the max out of it, since there's not enough feedback. Some pro drivers have said this a lot of times, that they find games like iRacing harder than the real thing, since there's not enough feedback.
I hope SMS can struck a good balance between simulating the real tthing and making it not unfairly hard at the same time.
NullPointer
Member
I don't actually require true to life simulation, as long as the cars have their own representative character and the physics/audio/visuals provide as much feedback as possible, so that you can "feel" the driving experience and make use of various real-world racing techniques.
Its all going to be smoke and mirrors anyway, but a Ferrari should have the driving character of a Ferrari, a Mini should have the character of a Mini, etc. even if the small details aren't spot on.
Of course there is no reason not to strive for perfection!
Its all going to be smoke and mirrors anyway, but a Ferrari should have the driving character of a Ferrari, a Mini should have the character of a Mini, etc. even if the small details aren't spot on.
Of course there is no reason not to strive for perfection!
Foliorum Viridum
Banned
What time do builds usually go up? This is the first one I've been waiting for since the project started - can't wait to try out Monza and Catalunya!
Normally around 14.00 C.E.T.
However it might be a little later this week, as they are trying to get some other "sky/weather" settings in to this weeks build.
Foliorum Viridum
Banned
Yeah I saw those pics on the forum earlier - it looks great!
youre playing bad sims then
Here's my first ever attempt at using song vegas and making a trailer. Obviously it's pretty basic though because I've never used the program before, or made any type of movie. Any feedback is appreciated!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp6Mn5--r34&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp6Mn5--r34&feature=player_embedded
Can you or fresquito please link to the forum posts where such pictures are?
Foliorum Viridum
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http://forum.wmdportal.com/showthread.php?2286-Dev-TimeCycle-And-Weather-System/page84
Also, the build has JUST gone up!
Also, the build has JUST gone up!
Nice, thanks. Also:
I like how date even affects this, nice. I just asked if there are plans to make the date user-selectable in some sense.
Yeah, that's what I just asked myself, and got these responses from Andy and another dev:
Andy said:
I don't know what "FE" is though.Kevin said:
*edit*
Huge list of updates since last week:
Foliorum Viridum
Banned
Urgh, downloading this early is terrible. HTTP and torrent both crawling.
I'm only going to keep wanting it ASAP as the project keeps growing, too!
I'm only going to keep wanting it ASAP as the project keeps growing, too!
mclaren777
Member
I'd love to hear your comments about the Palmer Jaguar JP1.
Download always start rather quickly and then you see your download remaining time go up and up, but I got it installed and tried out Florence (notMugello).Urgh, downloading this early is terrible. HTTP and torrent both crawling.
I'm only going to keep wanting it ASAP as the project keeps growing, too!
Asano X4 Touring at Florence GP (hotlap)
The Asano is not a good car to learn a track. The driver is so low that you can hardly see when a corner is coming. But it's a blast to play with the AI (you don't go flying as easily as with open wheelers)I always feel so claustrophobic in that touring car with the tiny windows. I like bubble canopy/open cars so I can see the scenery and track better. But then again I always feel like I'm sitting so low I can't see the track very well ahead of me, so maybe I am silly.
Weird I thought I had seen a video with the hands moving between the wheel and shifter.
Big Takeover
Member
Nice rendition of the track. They did a great job with the elevation changes.
Just bear in mind that rain isn't in yet, only clouds.
Well, in fact clouds aren't there, just the lighting and weather conditions, but there're no clouds :-DJust bear in mind that rain isn't in yet, only clouds.
Anyway, after my first try, the FFB feels a lot different now. I'd say it's a huge improvement, although I'm not one with a lot of expertise. There's a lot more feedback than before. I'll have to get used to it, but I think it's a huge step up.
Just bear in mind that rain isn't in yet, only clouds.
Yeah I noticed but it's a start. The haze effect looks really nice.
I always feel so claustrophobic in that touring car with the tiny windows. I like bubble canopy/open cars so I can see the scenery and track better. But then again I always feel like I'm sitting so low I can't see the track very well ahead of me, so maybe I am silly.
I agree. I am loving the open wheel cars more and more as I play racing games.
Gotta get this build ASAP.
Seeding at 1mb/s for y'all.
Throwaway123456789
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"Haze effect looks really nice"? How could they mess up the most commonly used graphics technique?
"Haze effect looks really nice"? How could they mess up the most commonly used graphics technique?
What? Just because it's commonly used doesn't mean the implementation is good. It's a matter of colour, brightness, opacity, range, how it reacts when you get close, how dense it is etc.
Most driver animations are still work in progress, so it could be you saw one of the more finished ones, this one still needs some work.
@Blizzard, you are not silly, due to (weight) performance they sit almost on the floor of the car and in the middle. So even in real live it looks like they are sitting in the backseat and they can hardly look over their dashboards, as I found out when looking for reference pictures for my skin.
@McLaren, Palmer as with all new cars, still has a lot of placeholder files (just ingame 3d model test), so we will have to wait a few builds to say something sensible/meaningful about the physics.
Here are a couple of pictures I thought were especially nice from the screenshot thread (http://forum.wmdportal.com/showthread.php?518-Screenshots/page363):
As always, they may be resized, downsampled, and/or have special depth of field that makes them look nicer than normal racing shots, but they look nice.
As always, they may be resized, downsampled, and/or have special depth of field that makes them look nicer than normal racing shots, but they look nice.
paperspace
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Two more worth posting:
