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Family of Florida boy killed by Neighborhood Watch seeks arrest
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In the eyes of Zimmerman, when he was born I suppose.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
hoodie!!!! shoot to kill!!
Professor Beef
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Ha ha ouch, I felt that one from here, man
Haha, I remember that one. First time he posted on the thread, he posted that the kid might've been justifiably shot because the kid might've been a gang-banger since black youths are big and scary.
Oh god, how fucking racist he was. Hahahah.
Tell that to the Starburst gang.
Dreams-Visions
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Twizzler Gang 4lyfe.
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Professor Beef
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None of which is even REMOTELY close to me saying "oh, they shouldn't even investigate this guy" like I thought he was innocent and justified or whatever shit you are trying to pin on me. So yeah, I didn't say that. And yeah, you were lying when you said I did.
Considering the picture of Trayvon in a football uniform, I get the sneaking suspicion he didn't even beat Mr. Zimmerman, merely pushed him, when George pushed back, Travy tackled him to the ground, which got the grass on his back and perhaps hit his head. This was enough to convince Zimmerman to end his life. Were there any reports of cuts or bruising on Zimmerman's face?
You got all that from a picture?
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
I got from the phone call that dude was racist so it isn't a stretch that he was hostile and racist when confronting the kid.
Vicetrailia
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Holy shit this kid was yelling for help, begging for help.
Fuck.
/furious
Fuck.
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In addition to what we've heard in the calls, Zimmerman's paranoid personality (calling police over 40 times in a year). I don't think it took a real fight for him to whip out a gun.
MightyHealthy
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I don't understand you because I'm ignorant, obviously, but I can't help but wonder: Do you read the tripe nonsense you post?
You're letting your preconceived notions get in the way of common sense, but don't let me stop you from trying to stop "the race card being played!"
Regardless of whether George Zimmerman was White or Hispanic, it's more than likely that Trayvon Martin's skin color played into the logic that convicted him in his killer's thoughts, as demonstrated by his own words during the 911 call AND past confrontations with people in the neighborhood.
This tragedy doesn't even need the race factor to make it an issue, but it is by and large an important reason as to why this kid was targeted for aggression in the first place.
So, to bring it back to you, what's with your affinity for getting annoyed by discussions about race?
No No no... fool.
That was Zimmerman.
Its easy to mistake a grown mans dire screams for help, for a childs scream though. Luckily the SPD corrected witness testimony to clear up that misconception.
Reallink
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Yep, I was just being a racist. Had nothing to do with providing an example of when an unarmed teenager might be a justifiable threat to an adult, or that it would have been a somewhat conceivable defense for Zimmerman to spin to the police.
Fenderputty
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I keep seeing this thread pop up on the main page and then hope to see a postive update.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
pretty much..
How could anyone hate a Skittles gang? Sounds like they accept everyone.
Not those fucking green skittles...fuck those guys.
el retorno
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I just listened to the 911 calls. Im furious they guy isn't behind bars. From the racial slurs to hearing the kid clearly screaming for his life. One of the worst things I've ever heard. I literally heard a kid screaming for his life and then shot.
Everybody in the SPD that was involved in this needs to lose their jobs.
I have a bunch of african american friends in the central florida area and it literally scares me that the police department would so easily dismiss a case like this.
Everybody in the SPD that was involved in this needs to lose their jobs.
I have a bunch of african american friends in the central florida area and it literally scares me that the police department would so easily dismiss a case like this.
Actually I think he might have said punks. I still believe this was a racially motivated crime though.
MightyHealthy
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I see a lot of positives:
- The community (local and Internet) has rallied the cause in supporting the Martin family's search for justice
- the media coverage snowballed, probably exponentially since Monday's major coverage
- journalists are digging more and more: we are already getting more information on not only Travyon's innocence, with the crucial details about his cell phone usage while he was being attacked, but more of Zimmerman's lies to the police as well
- Florida's Governor called for "appropriate resources" for the case
- State Attorney Norm Wolfinger will bring the case to a Grand Jury on April 10th
- The FBI and Department of Justice have begun looking into the matter, as well
DonasaurusRex
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wow so i finally saw a picture of this kid....and i do emphasize KID he's a complete shrimp...what grown man would be worried about someone that size and level a development. That dude pulled out a gun , released the safety and blew away a wimpy kid a pre teen gimpy kid pitiful.
Fenderputty
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I had heard some of this, but not the extent of what you just posted. That is good news. Last time I came in the thread I saw Harvey posting something and then just bailed. I'm glad the media attention is driving this thing further than where it looked like it was going from the start.
Then you never actually participated in this thread because the overwhelming outrage had nothing to do with the ethnicity of the kid or the murdering neighbourhood watch guy...
That outrage had to do with the lackadaisical effort from the police department, the shitty investigating, the police over the top defense of the guy, the witness statement alterations they decided to make, the regular police protocols they ignored for this guy, the fact that Zimmerman got away in the past with crimes that would get one locked up for sure, that the police department had history of crookedness, that the detective of the case was a narcotics officer and not homicide.... ect...
Maybe the media spun the shit up but the overwhelming outrage on this thread was of a different tone.
No need to throw names at the deceased kid.
Yeah it was a little hard to tell for me since the audio was so distorted as he mumbled..
Yeah. I was listening to the CBC on radio and they had his family's lawyer on. Talked about his girlfriend, and played a 911 recording. If I remember correctly from a half an hour ago (no mean feat for me) I thought the girlfriend heard Zimmerman saying coon among other thing over the phone.
:l
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Frank the Great
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i thought that self-defense is not a valid argument if you are the initial aggressor in an altercation? it sounds like this zimmerman dude chased the kid down on foot and confronted him . . . how can he claim self defense? seems like nonsense.
of course i know nothing about florida law specifically
of course i know nothing about florida law specifically
His victim would LOVE to be trapped in the house right now.
The victim would LOVE to be alive, recieve any police protection right now and the acknowledgement that his reaction towards a stalker with a gun was that of self defense. Of course the police feel he shouldn't have reacted that way when confronted by Zimmerman, nor do they offer the deceased any form of justice...
yup
Wow, I did hear that she was listening during the beginning of the scuffle.
If that's really all you took away from this thread, and you feel like you're righteously indignant because you feel like you are being oppressed in some sort of way because of this, then chances are you're a racist.
Dreams-Visions
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Yes.
SirButterstick
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No offense, but you're a fucking idiot. The only person who seems. On earned with race is, well, you.
Big Baybee
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He really told police the kid came up behind him??? Woooooooooooooooow. In the 911 tape he goes "shit, he's running" you hear the door open and him pursuing on foot. Fuck that police department.
Aaronology
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When you go through some of the articles (of the hundreds out there now), you can start to see a really disturbing pattern emerge in the Sanford Chief's stance on the shooting. Culled a few quotes from CNN, the Miami Herald, HuffPo and a few other places that originally ran this story. Bill Lee is quite the character.
It's become obvious that Zimmerman is not the only criminal scum in this case. Lee's narrative has slowly segued from "We have the evidence, it supports Zimmerman" to "We did the best job we could, honest!" Boy, would I love to see him fired (and worse). But given his ability to spin and his penchant for dishonesty I'm almost afraid he'd somehow end up at Fox News.
He backed Zimmerman's claim that he got out of his truck to check for directions and was ambushed from behind by Martin. This is bullshit. We know this to be bullshit by Zimmerman's own voice. Bill Lee should have known this was bullshit. And yet he offered this story up to the media while trying his best to keep the 911 tapes from surfacing.
And even worse, Lee had the audacity to imply Trayvon was the aggressor in this altercation while, again, sitting on the 911 tapes.
At this point Lee has still refused to release the 911 recordings. It later becomes known his officers have corrected or ignored witnesses and failed to test Zimmerman for drugs/alcohol. "All evidence", right.
He insinuates that Trayvon's actions contributed to his murder.
And once the 911 are finally public, he acts surprised by the outrage.
It's become obvious that Zimmerman is not the only criminal scum in this case. Lee's narrative has slowly segued from "We have the evidence, it supports Zimmerman" to "We did the best job we could, honest!" Boy, would I love to see him fired (and worse). But given his ability to spin and his penchant for dishonesty I'm almost afraid he'd somehow end up at Fox News.
Good overview. Man, what a dumbass.
It wasn't national for those first few comments - but he has to back up his office, implying that they might have fucked up is a complete no no. It would make him look horrible - but you notice his latest comments are less about the specifics of the case, and more about how it's gotten 'crazy'.
So I just listened to the PD call recording, and the end is really depressing. The dispatcher is trying to get Zimmerman to commit to a location to meet the arriving police, for a second gets him to agree to the mailboxes, then 'can you have them call me when they get here? I'll tell them where I am.'
It's upsetting because right there he's basically stating his intent to hunt this kid down; given his initial statements earlier in the call about the kid having something mysterious and something being 'not right' with him, it becomes obvious he wanted to play hero. Had he gone to the damned mailboxes none of this would have happened.
It's upsetting because right there he's basically stating his intent to hunt this kid down; given his initial statements earlier in the call about the kid having something mysterious and something being 'not right' with him, it becomes obvious he wanted to play hero. Had he gone to the damned mailboxes none of this would have happened.
The chief was trying to sweep everything quietly under the rug at first (which probably works most of the time :/). Zimmerman is squeeky clean! No need to hear the 911 calls. It was an open and shut self defense case.
Luckily Martin's family had the means to call attention to all of this, and it's all broken out due to the public pressure. Now he really has little choice but to damage control as best he can. Coming out and admitting he's incompetent and/or covered things up wouldn't help him much at this point.
Luckily Martin's family had the means to call attention to all of this, and it's all broken out due to the public pressure. Now he really has little choice but to damage control as best he can. Coming out and admitting he's incompetent and/or covered things up wouldn't help him much at this point.
MightyHealthy
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Kudos on putting that post together, I completely agree with you.
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