That would have been a good setup for people who don't know or never realized that Shep was in jail.
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Mass Effect 3 Spoiler Thread |OT2| Taste the Rainbow
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lastplayed
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Yeah I did notice the voices of Mordin and Ash in one of my dreams. That was kinda cool.
notworksafe
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This doesn't surprise me. Kaiden is just boring while Ashley is actively unpleasant.
Also, just wondering, what are Kaiden's dialogue scenes like? Does he get super drunk and pass out on the floor as well?
It frustrates me so much to hear these podcasts have a giant circle jerk in defense of the ending. They are FoxNews-ing this entire controversy by being vague regarding the valid criticisms and focusing on the extreme ends, which are easier to dismantle. 'Oh my God! FTC filings! How absurd!' or 'Look at these assclowns demanding a refund after they put 30+ hours into the game!' They focus on these stances instead of the many well thought out critiques on the ending. 'Plotholes? Logic holes? You guys are silly picking a story apart like that; so silly we won't even begin to address them beyond the surface level.'
Or worse, these so called journalists attempt to defend quotes from Bioware regarding the game's content that were not in the final product, without even having the quote in front of them to read. Then they proceed to 'paraphrase' the quotes and are not even close! Their paraphrased version does not even resemble the initial statement, at which point they go on to defend it. 'We did get three radically different endings!' Damn it gets to me.
You people are supposed to be the professional critics of this medium. Hell lets have a podcast and invite listeners to call in. Lets be sure to not go out of our way to include anyone with a different perspective than us, and then after the show lets pick out three voicemails to respond to that simply regurgitate everything we just said. Great idea. I'm sure there was not one phone call to PC Gamer from someone describing immense disappointment with the game.
Even typing this is getting me worked up. Fuck people! You are journalists! Chase the story. Attempt to address both sides fairly. Patrick Klepek is the only one actually doing his job in this regard.
Or worse, these so called journalists attempt to defend quotes from Bioware regarding the game's content that were not in the final product, without even having the quote in front of them to read. Then they proceed to 'paraphrase' the quotes and are not even close! Their paraphrased version does not even resemble the initial statement, at which point they go on to defend it. 'We did get three radically different endings!' Damn it gets to me.
You people are supposed to be the professional critics of this medium. Hell lets have a podcast and invite listeners to call in. Lets be sure to not go out of our way to include anyone with a different perspective than us, and then after the show lets pick out three voicemails to respond to that simply regurgitate everything we just said. Great idea. I'm sure there was not one phone call to PC Gamer from someone describing immense disappointment with the game.
Even typing this is getting me worked up. Fuck people! You are journalists! Chase the story. Attempt to address both sides fairly. Patrick Klepek is the only one actually doing his job in this regard.
I can actually hear Mordin's and later on, Legion's voice in some of the dream sequences. So I don't understand why they didn't just show those character's ghostly presence instead of the brat?
No he doesn't. Bioware was surprisingly creative with differentiating Kaidan and Ashley storyline. I mentioned this before that Kaidan is less hostile to Shepard than Ashley is in the game. Kaidan also doesn't get drunk (you never see him in Purgatory, IIRC). Some of their dialogues are different, etc.
He appears in the Citadel, and you talk to him about stake, and that's it. There's more dialog if you romance him.
I fucking love stake.
But he represents humanity! How do you not care about humanity and Earth!
No, he doesn't get drunk. He plays poker with Vega instead.
WanderingWind
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You can also hear Kaiden/Ash depending, and Thane.
Of all the dead squadmates...which one was going to be the ghost? I get not liking the bookend vent kid/vent god idiot devices, but they clearly showed in game that Shepard is haunted by the dead people in her past.
To be honest that sounds like it would have been frustrating to play through. It's like the ME1 council all over again.
skullwolfgp
Neo Member
Hahaha the only Renegade action I did the whole game was to shoot his dumb ass.
lastplayed
Member
That reminds me of TIM's last words before he dies. A perfect way to send off that character.
Should've been like ROTJ with smiling/creepy ghosts appearing in the background.
As much as I didn't really like Ashley, that drunk scene almost made her character worth it. I loved it. Tali's drunk scene was great, too.
I didn't know Tali hated Miranda though. That was a shocker. I wonder if she bitched about Miranda with Jack back in ME2. LOL @ "Cerberus Cheerleader bosh'tet"
Felix Lighter
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Drunk Tali was good stuff.
Inferno313
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To be fair: that sounds like 90% of the opening we got. The only difference being The council is consulting you over the reapers than trying to accuse you for Arrival.
same here.
lastplayed
Member
I'm replaying ME2. It dulls the pain.
The Witcher and The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings!
Witcher's not doing it for me. I'm on a fantasy theme hiatus.
Chart is inaccurate since decisions from both 1 and 2 affect what happens in 3. Some lines should still intertwine then at some point the green line should give the red and blue lines the finger.
Redo it. You have exactly 7 minutes.
Have you played Bastion?
Portal 2, Bastion... Hmmm, Ass Creed Brotherhood, Batman AA/AC?
Nice. I own it and only played the tutorial. Putting it in now.
Rebel Leader
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Do they in anyway affect the ending? No? OK then.
Escape Goat
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im replaying 3 now,definitely me2 is the more memorable...
me2 had the best cast i think.....
(also the indoctrination theory maybe is wrong,dlc could clear this up.)
Maybe he was checking gauges. Hes the lone pilot on a military frigate.
lastplayed
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Maybe he was checking gauges. Hes the lone pilot on a military frigate.
Or maybe he's just realizing this Normandy doesn't have an escape pod where it used to be.
Rebel Leader
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Or edi was doing what sex bots do
Escape Goat
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Also proves that space magic travels faster than light.
Wow this thread filled up with defenders and loonies since I last read. Psh.
Anyone that defends the ending I've found to be ignorant and not understanding of what's happening, or jumping on the bandwagon with the outsiders who love to call ending haters (so mostly everyone) "entitled". Shit is lame.
Anyone that defends the ending I've found to be ignorant and not understanding of what's happening, or jumping on the bandwagon with the outsiders who love to call ending haters (so mostly everyone) "entitled". Shit is lame.
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Randolph Freelander
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Now, see, if that guy had been the ghost in the machine, then at least the ending would have made sense.
Well, it still wouldn't have, but we would all still be laughing.
You're not entitled. You apparently just have an ego the size of the moon, and no one else's opinion matters but yours.
Get off your damned high horse and realize there's a bit of nuance to the situation. You're no better than the people that don't understand what your side is saying, either. People can enjoy the ending and realize there are problems, you know.
I mean seriously why is an ending to a game a "You're either with us or against us" situation? This is a little bit silly.
bonesmccoy
Banned
Agreed.
That column, despite coming from a 'reputable' source like the WSJ, makes some bad journalistic errors. Well, one huge mistake that completely renders his analysis invalid: He never once directly quotes anyone who thought the ending was poor. We hear from one of ME3's writers, we hear from Bioware's CEO, and we're treated to a barrage of quotes from gaming bloggers who think the fan reaction is idiotic. In the space of all those quotes, he never once found a single voice sympathetic to the fans' reaction?
Had he done so, he would have realized that fans aren't upset that ME ended (a dubious charge, given that Bioware is going to be selling post-release DLC), or that Shepard dies. He would have learned - and been surprised like I was - that there is a very cogent argument being made against ME3's ending that doesn't revolve around a misplaced sense of ownership.
And man, it did really seem to me that the author just really wanted to call gamers 'entitled' and 'childish'.
edit: It looks like people did show up in the combox to correct the author. Hopefully he reads that stuff!
I bet the story dlc will add more war assets things like omega.
Jake Tower
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antiquegamer
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But you just describe all of Mass Effect. I avoid this thread and all ME stuff until I finish the game this week. I also don't understand the rage about the ending... Some of the stuff about Normandie tag on was kinda dumb they should have everything just fade to black or white after you make your choice...but I am sure people would bitch about that too.
heliosRAzi
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You think that all of Mass Effect is thematically inconsistent?
All of Mass Effect is hokey B-grade sci-fi. People put it up on a mantle because we almost never get space opera video games.
Rebel Leader
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Now dig a grave for, MarauderShield.
I still don't get this reference.
Randolph Freelander
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Marauder Shields gets you, though.
Rebel Leader
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He was the last enemy you killed in the entire game.