So, GTAV most likely won't hit either, right?
I want to say something, but I'm afraid to because it might cause it to happen.
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Wii U Speculation Thread The Third: Casting Dreams in The Castle of Miyamoto
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So, GTAV most likely won't hit either, right?
I want to say something, but I'm afraid to because it might cause it to happen.
ShockingAlberto
Member
You also have to consider that RE6 is based in co-op.
If Nintendo has not given them enough Wii U online information, or if the service isn't up and running for launch, then that game is fucked. The cost of a port wouldn't even be justified.
And I think that Nintendo not giving all developers information to make online games yet is probably pretty likely.
If Nintendo has not given them enough Wii U online information, or if the service isn't up and running for launch, then that game is fucked. The cost of a port wouldn't even be justified.
And I think that Nintendo not giving all developers information to make online games yet is probably pretty likely.
-Pyromaniac-
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pretty much it. It's all on nintendo to make what they want, and get what they want.
AceBandage
Banned
Ubisoft has an online only game already running on the system, though...
ShockingAlberto
Member
I don't know Nintendo's relationship with Rockstar.
But they'd have the resources to port it if they want. They just might choose not to.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Ubisoft is Nintendo now.
nope! but I've lost any real hope for a healthy third party support on wii u, up to now.
ShockingAlberto
Member
That likely uses UPlay.
Capcom has no equivalent. Do you know why MHTri cost money in Japan to play online? Because Capcom had to farm out the online play to a third party because they had no infrastructure to work with and the fee went to paying them.
-Pyromaniac-
Member
ehh that's one I don't see. I'm all aboard the "lol nintendo" bandwagon when it comes to their weirdness/cluelessness at times but even they know, that if there is any game they have to secure, it's call of duty.
Which likely means this is Capcom being Capcom (lets not forget the decisions they tend to make in general) and not that there is any issue with Nintendo or the Wii U. If we didn't already know about Ghost Recon Online, already running back last year on the system I would be worried. Before people get up in arms I think people should first see if RE6 is any good or something to be missed.
I also don't see Nintendo missing out on Black Ops 2 either. Ubisoft already showed Activision/Treyarch what they need to do with the controller. If the game runs on the system it will be there. What should be in question is a Wii version. I don't expect they'll make that version now. It should be easier just to have another HD version instead of having another team try to port it down. Though if one is already in the works they could just push it to the 3DS.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
My guess is that it will be a slightly better 5.
I'm sure Activision of all people could set up online for the Wii U version in the five or so months between E3 and the release.
R
Rösti
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Game Boy Color: Grand Theft Auto 2 (developed by Tarantula Studios, published by Rockstar Games, Inc.)
Game Boy Advance: Grand Theft Auto Advance (developed by Digital Eclipse Software, Inc., published by Rockstar Games, Inc.
Nintendo DS: Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars (developed by Rockstar Games, Inc., published by Take 2 Interactive Software, Inc.)
As for relationship I don't know, but these are the Grand Theft Auto titles available for Nintendo platforms.
AceBandage
Banned
So, Nintendo had an online running for the 3DS in order for Capcom to make 3 online games (one avaliable for launch) but they don't for Wii U?
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Not buying it.
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Not buying it.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Rösti;36818041 said:
The time is now for one on the big boy.
I think the popularity of any Call of Duty title is immensely dependent on the quality of the online infrastructure that the console offers.
Many people buy COD only to play multiplayer with their friends on LIVE and PSN. I don't know if people have enough goodwill for Nintendo left in that specific area after the mediocre online offerings that the Wii had.
I have confidence that Nintendo Network will be a huge leap forward, but I think people will just stick with what they know works, and where all their friends are located.
Many people buy COD only to play multiplayer with their friends on LIVE and PSN. I don't know if people have enough goodwill for Nintendo left in that specific area after the mediocre online offerings that the Wii had.
I have confidence that Nintendo Network will be a huge leap forward, but I think people will just stick with what they know works, and where all their friends are located.
nordique
Member
Rösti;36818041 said:
There's been a few more Rockstar titles as well; Bully, Table Tennis and Manhunt 2 for Wii, as well as Max Payne for GBA
I'm sure there are others. Smuggler's Run for Gamecube I think.
But Rockstar fans have always owned a PS or Xbox console, so I think Rockstar's main interest in branching out to the Wii U would be to expose themselves to a potential new audience and make even more fans. I certainly enjoy their games quite a bit; GTA5 would be nice on the Wii U.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I'm convinced by the wording of that statement that this will definitely be on the Wii U at launch.
And now I'm positive that Wii U's online will be no different than 3DS beyond there being multiple accounts on a console. :/
And their relationship with Capcom is WAAAAAAAAAY better than with Rockstar, so if we base it on that, the conversation went like this:
Reggie: "We'd like GTAV on Wii U."
R*: *calls security without a word*
Yep.
The best thing Nintendo could do is give Wii U's online service a really interesting and unique hook and hope word of mouth pulls people to the platform. Otherwise, they won't convince anyone to move from what they use now.
Didn't think of that... and yeah, that's very Nintendo.
How do you jump to such wild conclusions based on such generalized statements?
Twenty7KVN
Member
It doesn't really matter if the game is good or not.The fact is if Capcom isn't willing to put one of their biggest franchises on the wii-u,it gives us a pretty good idea how they see the system.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
All this "bad news"(whether real or made up) bodes rather well for Nintendo.
It's going to make E3 that much more dramatic.
Think the first time you played that early level of Donkey Kong Country, going from the rainy darkness to the full on sunshine.
It's going to make E3 that much more dramatic.
Think the first time you played that early level of Donkey Kong Country, going from the rainy darkness to the full on sunshine.
The issues with CoD on the Wii were security and lack of DLC. That's pretty much. Nintendo seems to have security locked down so far with the 3DS and no doubt has it worked out on the Wii U. Knowledge or belief that will be better on a new system will all people to give it a shot even if those problems drove them away form the Wii versions in the past. Storage is something they've addressed already. No a hard drive but SD card works fine and Wii owners are familiar with it if they used the Wii Shop, music games, etc. Those with other systems will get the Wii U as well because it's new. There is always that group of people. If the CoD game is there at launch they'll get it. They'll double dip for their other system of choice as well. People aren't going to drop the PS3/360 just for the Wii U. No one is even saying that or believing that so it really isn't worth bringing up. Still to think that everyone on the PS3/360 has a vast friends list or that it will keep them there no matter what doesn't make any sense. There being a population for CoD on the Wii U won't be a problem. If it's going to be the exact same version as the PS3/360 why wouldn't Activision have a version? What do they have to lose especailly when they know there is already a built in fanbase (over a million) coming form the Wii as a start.
bryanee
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Its what people do on the internet.
frankie_baby
Member
Rösti;36818041 said:
I'm under the impression (possibly misguided) that rockstar north specificly isnt on the best of terms with nintendo as at one point they were near enough a 2nd party developer and nintendo fucked them around
At the Gearbox panel at PAX East Randy, one of the presidents of the company, said something interesting during the Aliens segment. He basically said that there was going to be something really awesome for the Wii U version and as soon as Nintendo would open up with their communication of the system they'd be able to show everyone.
-Pyromaniac-
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it's hard to get out of that gaming forum mindstate where we follow every tiny bit of news that comes out, but in the bigger picture, once E3 hits everything is usually forgotten if it's a good show. But of course if it's a bad one then the rest of this year will be horrid.
nintendo seems to be holding a lot of people back, less than 2 more monthssss.
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IceDoesntHelp
Banned
So...E3?
AceBandage
Banned
Dude. This is a big reason you were banned before. You need to not go crazy with your conclusions.
DXB-KNIGHT
Member
Isn't Nintendo emphasizing more on online as we are drawing close to E3? I think the end of the financial year at the end of this month will focus more on Nintendo's online plans.
It gives me the impression that Nintendo still doesn't care about online play, and, frankly, there's no reason at all to believe otherwise. I'd make an avatar bet, but I want to save that for something else.
I'm not jumping to conclusions. I was already sure that would be the case, and this supports it more.
Oh, and I'm not talking about the store here. I mean that the accounts will be tied to the system with a friend code. It's a stretch to believe otherwise at this point.
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
Oh he's back. Better block him again..
The issue is that many multi console owners won't bother to buy the Wii U versions of games like CoD because Wii U is not where their friends and gamerscore are.
No-one is going to double dip. Really, no one does that.
Sure it will have players on the Wii-U, but it won't attract the millions of frenzied FPS gamers on current HD platforms, who are practically foaming at the mouth to play the next COD.
That could be enough reason for Activision to just wait and see what happens, and launch the next next game on the Wii-U instead of this one, to give it a chance to establish a userbase first.
It's Activision. They'll put this one on Wii U.
nordique
Member
I agree with this. Nintendo can't expect majority of people gaming on Xbox Live or PSN with huge friends lists to simply move over. The Upad isn't going to be that big of a draw to those crowds, that they will give up consoles they already game on with large friends lists, especially when the game experience is unlikely to differ a great deal.
I recall many years ago, one of the original reasons I purchased a 360 was just to maintain co-op and online games with my friends list. I had a PS3 at the time too, but only purchased multiplats on 360 simply due to my friends and Xbox Live. A close friend in another city had a similar experience, however, with PS3 as most of his friends owned that.
That said, I really believe people -- especially "hardcore" gamers who frequent sites like IGN and GAF are truly overlooking how many people owned Wii's, simply because many of these owners never even touch the internet outside of checking their email or checking out amazon or something. And these aren't old 70 years of age people, these are young adults.
Wii U is targeted as the next "Wii" to that group, and I can foresee many people "upgrading" to an HD system
There are tons and tons of people (more so than people who are into games passionately) I know who are adults, professionals, and love gaming but simply don't have the time in regular life to regularly check up with fansites or follow gaming news. Many of these people have games on their iPhones yes but they do indeed enjoy playing Wii Sports or Mario Party, or Just Dance on their home console with the odd dose of Madden or FIFA. And they are Wii Only owners. To them, they are interested in adding a true HD console to their new theatre set ups but have never bothered to invest in a PS3 or 360, because they were able to get their gaming fix with Wii. These are the people who only own 5 or 6 games and they are games like New Super Mario Bros Wii, Wii Sports, Wii Fit, Mario Kart, Guitar Hero, Just Dance, Madden or FIFA and Maybe a COD.
For them, the Wii U will be a system to get. Those who havent purchased a Kinect 360 bundle yet will jump on the Wii U board. These are a "general public" of young adult gamers. Too busy with professional jobs and social life, with the only exposure to games coming from randomly walking into a Wal Mart or Best Buy. I can see the Wii U appealing to them.
That said, these people won't be interested in Darksiders II by and large. Si I dont expect the Wii U version of some multiplat games to be high sellers relative to how the console sells. I think it will sell fine, but it will be more to new HD console owners and Nintendo fans primarily. Very few current HD system owners will switch brands.
I realize no one is going to listen to me, but here it goes: Given what has played out so far- i.e, absolutely zero (to my knowledge) announcements of previously unannounced software for Wii U, it is clear Nintendo is holding 99%, if not 100% back until E3. E3 is where we will see what cards Nintendo has to play, including 3rd party support. Until then, it seems rather dumb to make assumptions about the system's future without seeing any of the cards.
DragonSworne
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Twenty7KVN
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How can you be sure of something you know nothing about?And who said what to confirm it for you?
It'll have TWO maps on the tablet.
If conclusion-jumping would be worthy of a ban, this entire thread wouldn't have existed.
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