Valerie Cherish
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Voted: 1366
Hope you win!
Hope you win!
It's been going on for a fucking eternity. We entered on March 5. Winner gets announced 2 weeks from tomorrow.
We're sitting pretty on a lead of 473 votes, but it looks like the people in second place hired a company to spam votes for them from fake FB accounts, so we have no idea what's gonna happen over the next 2 weeks.
I like you
List updated. 19 gaffers added and list is now up to 230 gaffers. As always, let me know if I missed anyone.
So guise, I know its still way too early to start doing a victory dance. There are still 10 days to go and a lot of crazy shit can happen in that time but Ive been thinking a lot lately about if we win, how to keep the game raffle fair, transparent and 100% free of any bias, favoritism or other bullshit (yeah, I know eh? Free vidya gaemz is srs bizness!)
Ive never done any kind of random draw raffle thingy before so any advice or experience would be appreciated.
Heres what I had in mind so far:
-Copy and paste the list into a chart format.
-Print off the chart, and cut up all the names into individual tickets.
-Shuffle the tickets around, fold them up, put them in a jar, shake up the jar
-randomly pull out 5 tickets one by one. Was thinking of possibly even recording the whole process and uploading it to youtube for full transparency?
Let me know if this sounds like a fair way to do it, or if you have any better ideas.
I want to have this all figured out before the end of the contest, so that if we win I can just immediately go straight to Gamestop and get the games while Im still in a good moodIts going to cost me a little over $400 for the 5 @ $60 games + 15% tax, + shipping, so I damn well better be in a good mood if/when this goes down
Make a googledocs, uneditable list that contains every gaffer with an associated number. Generate random numbers. You can youtube this if you like. This might be a bit easier.List updated. 19 gaffers added and list is now up to 230 gaffers. As always, let me know if I missed anyone.
So guise, I know its still way too early to start doing a victory dance. There are still 10 days to go and a lot of crazy shit can happen in that time but Ive been thinking a lot lately about if we win, how to keep the game raffle fair, transparent and 100% free of any bias, favoritism or other bullshit (yeah, I know eh? Free vidya gaemz is srs bizness!)
Ive never done any kind of random draw raffle thingy before so any advice or experience would be appreciated.
Heres what I had in mind so far:
-Copy and paste the list into a chart format.
-Print off the chart, and cut up all the names into individual tickets.
-Shuffle the tickets around, fold them up, put them in a jar, shake up the jar
-randomly pull out 5 tickets one by one. Was thinking of possibly even recording the whole process and uploading it to youtube for full transparency?
Let me know if this sounds like a fair way to do it, or if you have any better ideas.
I want to have this all figured out before the end of the contest, so that if we win I can just immediately go straight to Gamestop and get the games while Im still in a good moodIts going to cost me a little over $400 for the 5 @ $60 games + 15% tax, + shipping, so I damn well better be in a good mood if/when this goes down
This is probably the best solution. He could also try and be fancy and for each draw generate several numbers in the range he wants, finding the average value between them and awarding the game to the nearest number.Make a googledocs, uneditable list that contains every gaffer with an associated number. Generate random numbers. You can youtube this if you like. This might be a bit easier.
Seems a bit ironic almost that you are using GAF for your own campaign but don't seem keen on people using other tactics
Oh Hell no, the investigation begins. We will find this gaffer, justice will be brutal.lol, just checked up on the status of the contest and found this posted on the company's wall:
Richard Gilliam
"Alamin Kitchen (that's us) should be disqualified for soliciting votes from an internet forum: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=466010"
was this a gaffer? if so, smh.
lol, just checked up on the status of the contest and found this posted on the company's wall:
Richard Gilliam
"Alamin Kitchen (that's us) should be disqualified for soliciting votes from an internet forum: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=466010"
was this a gaffer? if so, smh.
Ouch. Hopefully that was not a Gaffer.
Ever think maybe one of the other competitors seen all the comments on your kitchen pic about "gaf", did some nifty searching and found this thread? Could be another possibility.
Good! Win dat kitchen for us man! This isn't about your wife wanting it anymore. It's about us! Errr or not.That's a possibility.
Based on the profile, the person who made that comment seems to have some connection to Kentucky. Since the competitors are in Halifax it seems like it would be a pretty elaborate scheme if it was a fake account created by one of the competitors just to post that comment.
Either way, we're not worried about it at all. As I mentioned earlier we asked the company about the rules of the contest at the beginning and have emails from them as proof/confirmation that this wasn't against the rules. I know of at least 3 other entries (the second place entry among them) that have done the exact same thing, so it would definitely be a case of throwing stones in glass houses if it was on of the other entries.
We will be emailing them shortly to ask that they remove that comment from their wall.
Did some investigation and it looks like it was definitely a gaffer that tried to sabotage us!
Under "recent activity" on that facebook account I found this:
"Would easily pay for a proper PC port of monsters, instead of this facebook cash-shop crap. Already own it on PS3 but would buy again." on PixelJunk Monsters Online's timeline."
Gamer-talk like that can only be a gaffer and not one of the other competitors.
So who was it? show yourself!
was this a gaffer? if so, smh.
Let's fuck em up!
Anyways, at least she knows that we're on to her now and that might stop the cheating.
Wow, what a piece of shit. It'd make sense if everyone else in the contest were relying on "honest" votes, but that's clearly not the case.Did some investigation and it looks like it was definitely a gaffer that tried to sabotage us!
Under "recent activity" on that facebook account I found this:
"Would easily pay for a proper PC port of monsters, instead of this facebook cash-shop crap. Already own it on PS3 but would buy again." on PixelJunk Monsters Online's timeline."
Gamer-talk like that can only be a gaffer and not one of the other competitors.
So who was it? show yourself!
lol
You're not exactly playing fair either. This is vote manipulation.
Vote manipulation that the contest organizers have already given the thumbs up.
Well isn't every public internet contest like that then?
Probably. I just don't see much of a difference between paying people to vote, and pleading to people on a popular forum to vote.
The people who get paid actually get something out of it.
Probably. I just don't see much of a difference between paying people to vote, and pleading to people on a popular forum to vote.
“Cheating” implies breaking the rules.
This contest has rules. And the company was pretty clear about them : Get votes/likes any way you can. The only thing off-limits is paying people/companies to spam votes for you from fake accounts.
Yes it's too late. Way, way, way too latewe don't want any more competition
Yeah, I guess I wasnt really clear about that. My fault.
A few weeks into the contest we noticed that she created a facebook group for her entry. Someone posted Buy Likes! on her wall put a link to his/her website. I copied the link and held onto it for evidence just in case things got ugly.
A couple of weeks later we noticed that on random days of the week they would get bursts of votes in increments of 40-70 votes during odd hours of the night (like 1a.m to 5a.m-ish) No votes for the entire week, but a sudden burst of 70 votes overnight during odd hours of the night.
So I decided to look into who these mysterious overnight voters were. All these votes came from facebook accounts with open profiles, no friends, and the only activity from these accounts was liking hundreds of facebook pages.
I went back to that link and saw that the pagemaster had even put up a voting schedule, listing the times that they vote (which matched the times they were getting votes). Didn't report them to the company or accuse them and I'm hoping I don't have to. It's only a last resort if things get ugly and we lose.
Okay, well first of all I didn't know the rules before making a comment. Second, paying people and paying someone to generate fake accounts is a little different.