joshwaan
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Good point BP, but Nintendo likes very fast memory so they will go with GDDR5 no doubt
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Wii U Speculation thread IV: Photoshop rumors and image memes
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Good point BP, but Nintendo likes very fast memory so they will go with GDDR5 no doubt
iirc, and people can correct me if I'm wrong because this is definitely NOT my forte, the problem lies in chip densities. Most sources say they're going with "slow" ram, meaning they're likely going with GDDR3. I think GDDR3 chip densities top out at 2Gb (256MB). So in order to get 2GB of memory, they'd need 8 chips on the board. They can go higher than that, but the problem is using more than 8 chips requires a larger circuit board, there are bandwidth problems, heat problems, and of course cost issues. The same rule applies to GDDR5 and XDR, which is why a lot of people think it's unlikely MS or Sony will go higher than 2GB either. It's not impossible though, and the easiest way to go about breaking the 2GB barrier is by using a split pool of different types of ram, probably a mix of GDDR5 and GDDR3. But it's very unlikely nintendo is going to go that route because of cost, heat, and size issues. It also appears that they're going to try to reduce reliance on ram by incorporating a relatively large amount of EDRAM.
edit: Whoops, I was wrong, I think GDDR3 chip densities top out at 4Gb and GDDR5 and XDR tops out at 2Gb
Dr.Palutena
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I've always wanted this ability. I also want HD Advance Wars.
Man that would be amazing, but I doubt Nintendo would go that far. Who knows they might surprise us at E3 with something like this. I like this idea a lot.
Man that's pretty bad. They're going to miss out on some great games because of this kind of mentality.
That's true. They're probably going to end up freeing up some memory once they have the OS finalized to their liking. Then again they might not in case of future updates to the OS.
My alarm is going-on. It's making a noise! Yikes!
AceBandage
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Well, the only thing that DX11 really has over 10 is really a more capable Tesslator.
So... pretty good?
DaSorcerer7
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all this talk of RAM and no newegg mentions..what going on here!?
AceBandage
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I am with you 100% on this. Nintendo online will be about taking the local multiplayer experience they love and have nurtured for almost 30 years and push it to online.
I think three words we'll associate with Nintendo Network are: Social. Interactive. Community.
THX also for the time to answer me!!
Hmmm....I'll try to get it and will make some research...
JoshuaJSlone
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Yeah, in a world where Max Payne 3 is going to be on platforms ranging from 0.5 GB to 16 GB RAM, 1.5-4 seems nothing.
All of them.Nilaul said:
It was also rumored for X360 a long time ago.megarockexe said:
GameplayWhore
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Aye, they're limited to WWE games, Mario Kart, Smash Bros (though Brawl is the only one we've played), first person shooters that I bring along (dude has a 360 but has never played any Halo or CoD to the best of my knowledge -- they still love the ones I appear with), games based on movies (though not the good ones -- they never played Riddick, as per the previous rule), anything Resident Evil and sometimes games with massive marketing budgets.
bgassassin
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I saw bg mentioned a few times while scrolling. Whatever it is I blame Burntpork.
And that was some interesting info wsippel found.
And that was some interesting info wsippel found.
AceBandage
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Good call, imo.
Smiles and Cries
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I hate seeing all of thee cool games being announced but WiiU versions are denied left and right
no one is talking, makes you wonder if WiiU is getting much at all
no one is talking, makes you wonder if WiiU is getting much at all
ecosse_011172
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You can forget about the 16GB nonsense, Max Payne 3 will run completely fine on 4GB of RAM.
Remember that it's pointless comparing RAM between PCs and consoles for many reasons.
Father_Brain
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AceBandage
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It's best to expect nothing and be pleasantly surprised. And get your Developers' Bullshit Excuses bingocard ready for E3, just in case.
GameplayWhore
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Maybe the E3 conference surprise is that Nintendo was just joking about introducing a new console.
joshwaan
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Been watching the E3 2011 Conference and the reveal of the Wii U was not to bad, not as bad as people said it was.
It's quite funny seeing the Bird demo with no shadows from the bird in the tree, yet floor demo looks heaps better and more shadows and better depth.
Any ways was not a bad conference, but this one coming will blow it away methinks
It's quite funny seeing the Bird demo with no shadows from the bird in the tree, yet floor demo looks heaps better and more shadows and better depth.
Any ways was not a bad conference, but this one coming will blow it away methinks
GameplayWhore
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Nah, the next day and a half will be torture, then there will be a day of no torture, then there will be slightly less than six weeks of torture.
Smiles and Cries
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I am not going to give up on multi-upad play
Resident Evil 6 co-op using two uPads would be great right? :3
Resident Evil 6 co-op using two uPads would be great right? :3
Skiesofwonder
Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
Same. I refuse to believe that there will not be multi-UPad support.
I'm crossing my fingers that a lot of NDAs will be lifted after the investor's meeting. The "unexpected capcom game" announcement is also to be released on the 26th through famitsu, which coincidentally lines up with the day of the meeting. I have a sliver of hope that it's a Wii U game.
bgassassin
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From what I saw I think the rumors and leaks are getting crossed up.
Back when I was shown what the original target specs looked like, summarizing they looked like this.
Tri-core (2 threads per core) PowerPC w/3MB of L2 cache
1-1.5GB of memory
32MB of eDRAM
With the memory it's very possible that, when considering Ideaman's posts, Nintendo either decided to increase the amount of memory to handle the OS/functions Ideaman mentioned since then, or the 1-1.5GB was always meant to be what the developers had access to and since the OS amount was blocked off to them it wasn't "necessary" for them to know that anyway.
One thing is certain is that it won't be over 2GB.
Either that, or I could see a smattering of them lifted right before E3, in the days leading-up to the event. Maybe a few new outlets will have exclusive reveals, etc..
Father_Brain
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Yeah, don't get your hopes up.
And right now, I'm guessing that the Capcom game is something like Nazo Waku Yakata that won't be of any interest to 99% of GAF.
AceBandage
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I wouldn't count on it. Not for multiplatform games, anyway.
Smiles and Cries
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AceBandage
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The odds of it being exclusive to any one system are low.
The odds of it being exclusive to the PS3 are minimum.
The odds of it being exclusive to the Vita are practically nil.
I seriously wonder if someone on Nintendo's events team fucked up and qued up the wrong footage. Why would they show that demo footage if a better reel was available?
On a similar note, I watched E3 2010 on YouTube last night. I love the '06 conference, but 2010 was by far their best show. It is literally, "Hey I'm Reggie. You all think Wii has run out of ste. Nope... here's some games" followed by quite literally non-stop game reveals. I really hope they follow suit this year and just show game after game after game after game.
GDDR3 tops out at 1Gb. It's an EOL'ed product. DDR3 has 4Gb being produced with some plans for 8Gb at some point IIRC.
GDDR3 != DDR3
Somebody is going to get a big game reveal pre E3. It's just good business.
It's going to be one of Nintendo's close western partners I bet. Somebody stable, and somebody who hasn't leaked yet.
Surely there are editors wandering about on this very board who are in the midst of negotiations for that exclusive article.
AceBandage
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Excite U-Boats from Monster Games
lol, thanks for the overwhelming support guys. I didn't say I was optimistic, just that I have a little bit of hope.
Ah, thanks. I know GDDR3 and DDR3 are very different, I must have misread during my quick google searches. Could you explain though how graphics cards are achieving 3GB of memory?
Ah, thanks. I know GDDR3 and DDR3 are very different, I must have misread during my quick google searches. Could you explain though how graphics cards are achieving 3GB of memory?
Been watching the E3 2011 Conference and the reveal of the Wii U was not to bad, not as bad as people said it was.
It's quite funny seeing the Bird demo with no shadows from the bird in the tree, yet floor demo looks heaps better and more shadows and better depth.
Any ways was not a bad conference, but this one coming will blow it away methinks
i'm sure u know this already but the majority of the criticism was from high expectations of individuals. so all the crap they were expecting, they were all bitter about not seeing it and of course like always, blame Nintendo for it. Nintendo never said there was gonna be a full reveal, but they weren't trying to hear that smh. but yes it was sufficient presentation which was enough to wet the appetites of us that were reasonable.
Father_Brain
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They're actually quite high, since it pretty much has to be a Japan-centric title (otherwise, it would have been shown at Captivate three weeks ago). Almost all Japanese multiplatform titles are aimed at the Western market, to a significant extent if not primarily.
I think there has got to be some loosening of multiplatform NDAs for certain games in the coming weeks. Especially if Nintendo Power's cover story is 007 Legends.
When is that NP released anyways?
Fourth Storm
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specialguy
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I have noticed this thread has a pattern:
- stage 1: Overhyping of Wii U's power, gets out of control.
-stage 2: Some dev or anonymous source or article basically slashes those rumors, confirms Wii U will not be a powerhouse
-stage 3: Thread retreats, somber, for a time, but then in the absence of any new info, slowly but surely starts overestimating the specs and getting overheated again...
stage 2 and 3 form a loop...
- stage 1: Overhyping of Wii U's power, gets out of control.
-stage 2: Some dev or anonymous source or article basically slashes those rumors, confirms Wii U will not be a powerhouse
-stage 3: Thread retreats, somber, for a time, but then in the absence of any new info, slowly but surely starts overestimating the specs and getting overheated again...
stage 2 and 3 form a loop...
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