Naked Snake
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So why is fapping without porn not allowed? I'm not sure I understand the reasoning here.
Fapping is natural, many animals do it (I think).
Fapping is natural, many animals do it (I think).
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The Great Porn Experiment (TEDxGlasgow)
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It subliminally makes the brain link stimulation to porn rather than touch and feel, in many cases leading to ED.
Basically, its like when you watch porn, the brain goes, "Okay, time for an erection," rather than to touch. It relies on porn to stimulate it, and in many cases over time, more extreme porn.
EDIT:Shit.... misinterpreted post. ..
The idea is to give you dick a break from all the stimulus. It needs to rest, and the dopamine receptors need to heal into their former state. IF you absolutely need to, its okay, but do it without porn and a loose grip. It might set you back.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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I can't fap to or watch my own porn that I've made... wow
and to think of it... it's all POV in my POV on the computer screen so I would be fapping to /watching myself's POV.....
my mind is melting
Pornception
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I think it's allowed when absolutely necessary, like you just gotta do it. Just do it without porn or visual stimulation to break the dependency on porn. You don't want it to reach the point where you need porn to get it up.
Etrian Oddity
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This pretty much sums it up. I totally accept what the TED experiment said about desensitization... I just think going 90 days is rather overboard (especially since your body will fight it with emissions), but more power to whoever can go through with it.
I will say that I've cut my masturbation to every four to seven days, and I definitely see a benefit in the testosterone output. Hell, just my approach and interaction with girls alone are way more on-point when I abstain.
Porn addiction is not.
That wasn't part of the question though.
Suairyu, you're becoming the McCarthy of masturbation.
No, it was a response to his "masturbation is natural" malarkey. The question has been answered multiple times in this thread, mostly by me. You are avoiding the itch > scratch mechanism in your brain and also helping you to avoid porn fantasy.
McCarthyism would imply I'm anti-porn or anti-masturbation, which I'm totally not. I love porn, masturbation and orgasms. I'm just rough on 90-day cadets!
but aren't males a visual stimulus driven animal? so if not porn, then some other visual stimulus can be useful.
I can understand pulling back from full on porn, but maybe softcore or even stuff like playboy might still have its place.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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But isn't the problem that eventually softcore and Playboy won't be enough and people begin having to get more extreme versions of porn to get the same "rush"?
ConradCervantes
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I've been pretty shitty since my relapse last week. Ironically I am just NOW watching the video in the OP as I type this. Time to get back on the wagon. I'm tired of being a slave to my addiction.
yes, but thats where this experiment and your self-control comes in.
Chuckie
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Naked Snake
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Thankfully I'm not there. I occasionally still did it without porn and I fully enjoy those times too.
Duh, I'm aware and in full agreement with that. My question was about masturbation WITHOUT porn, i.e. the natural way. And I'm not asking if I can do it on a daily/regular basis, but once in a while to "empty the full tank" and get some relief.
Try to not. That's all I can say.
If you have to and none of your distraction techniques like going for a walk or whatever are helping, do it slowly and without fantasising.
FallingEdge
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What about getting aroused in regards to a pic or something you read? Or random erections? Embrace it or do your best to ignore it?
I'm not trying to rub one out or anything, just wondering if this is something you can still... appreciate or should you move on and get your mind off of it. I'm not tempted but just like to live in the moment lol.
I'm not trying to rub one out or anything, just wondering if this is something you can still... appreciate or should you move on and get your mind off of it. I'm not tempted but just like to live in the moment lol.
Ignore it. Always ignore it. Go for a walk or play some videogames.
Trojita
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What if a videogame caused it?
FallingEdge
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Even if I have no intention of rubbing one out? Why is that? Same concept as what the other users are saying in the sense that you need a break from all the stimulus?
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Then you're fucked.
BlueTsunami
there is joy in sucking dick
Then this challenge should be considered a priority
Sickboy007
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Just trying to help you guys.
Quack science aside, it's to get out of habitual behavioural responses. The idea is that we're overstimulated in this day and age and constant masturbation will reduce your desires and performance in the bedchamber. The porn is basically the vehicle that allows you to get past the "masturbation fatigue" that would, theoretically, set in after excessive amounts of fapping.
I enjoy them. It's like being fourteen all over again. The stipulations of the challenge are that you just don't rub it out. The general advice to ignore them is only on the grounds that you "won't be able to help yourself."
FallingEdge
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That's what I thought. Thanks.
Then stop playing JRPGs and/or The Witcher.
This is a long thread, this might have been brought up before, but you know there's another issue. Cute girls.
When you go outside, how many cute girls do you see? A dozen? A hundred?
But on television and the internet you see thousands of cute girls. Cute girls are available at your fingertips. In image macros, avatars, everywhere!
Hell, even the books and magazines are not safe from cute girls!
So, I suggest this. Rid yourself of all earthly possessions and only see what women you see when walking outdoors.
When you go outside, how many cute girls do you see? A dozen? A hundred?
But on television and the internet you see thousands of cute girls. Cute girls are available at your fingertips. In image macros, avatars, everywhere!
Hell, even the books and magazines are not safe from cute girls!
So, I suggest this. Rid yourself of all earthly possessions and only see what women you see when walking outdoors.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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No. I need TV.
I support you guys and your endeavors. Idk about joining though.
Haha, Casting Couch gonna sue.
Haha, Casting Couch gonna sue.
Link? Or is it "personal use".
wondermega
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Well I tried it too and I really can't endure it more than 24 hours. Am I a addicted?
I've got no problems getting it up if I want to, but I am like a wolf howling after every girl I see after a few hours, testesteron problem? I delete everything of my harddrive now and try again, give me some power GAF.
I also don't have problems with woman, and I get in a killer mode if I don't wank it off in the morning. I flirt with every possible woman I get in touch... :s
I've got no problems getting it up if I want to, but I am like a wolf howling after every girl I see after a few hours, testesteron problem? I delete everything of my harddrive now and try again, give me some power GAF.
I also don't have problems with woman, and I get in a killer mode if I don't wank it off in the morning. I flirt with every possible woman I get in touch... :s
Naked Snake
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I'm certainly addicted to buying underwear online (one of my several addictions I guess, which I have not made a decision to stop yet... Hey, one step at a time!)
Browsing all those underwear pages is not making my newly adopted No-Fap rule any easier...
Browsing all those underwear pages is not making my newly adopted No-Fap rule any easier...
your hentai magic does not work on me.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Tell her about your endeavor; maybe she'll have some sympathy and have sex with you.
It was just a hang out with type of day but she loves to tease, and my poor lil guys are in agony lol
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Well, at least you have a gf to potentially help you out if you really need it.
I have nothing. ;_;
Do you love her? Are you guys tight?
You sit her down and you explain this to her. If she's worth it, she'll (try to) understand and be helping.
Just making sure I'm hitting my bases. I mean, I could have just mentioned Another Lady Innocent, but to those in the know it would have been akin to me discussing in vivid detail Gianna Michael's anal debut.
I've lost 5 pounds. I haven't started working out either. I feel good. Amidoinitrite? It's hard man.... It's really starting to get hard.... but easier at the same time. I have the thoughts of just glimpsing, and I usually refrain, but sometimes I'll do it anyways and then one thing often leads to another, but I stop before I make any serious mistakes. I think I'm on day 12 now. Something like that.
The key is to drink lots of water. That way, when you get an erection, it's not because you're horny, it's cause your bladder is full. At least you'll think that's what it is anyways
The key is to drink lots of water. That way, when you get an erection, it's not because you're horny, it's cause your bladder is full. At least you'll think that's what it is anyways
I relapsed. I couldn't help it. It wasn't porn. It was early this morning. I had to piss so I had an massive hard erection. Like I said it wasn't porn but I used my imagination and a few photos of hot clothed women in lingerie. I rubbed 3 times yesterday. One early in the A.M., one after work and one around 11PM.
I still felt refreshed but slightly annoyed. I'm about to fall asleep. Today (midnight right now) is a new day. I lasted 9 days. Now time to achieve past that. I'm just glad and proud I didn't use porn but used 30% picture and 70% imagination yesterday.
So I'm actually going 10 days without porn.
Here goes!
I still felt refreshed but slightly annoyed. I'm about to fall asleep. Today (midnight right now) is a new day. I lasted 9 days. Now time to achieve past that. I'm just glad and proud I didn't use porn but used 30% picture and 70% imagination yesterday.
So I'm actually going 10 days without porn.
Here goes!
CoffeeJanitor
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Er, yeah, I'm having trouble getting boners/keeping them up now, this normal?
Its been about 4 days, second try. I messed up once before this after going 7 days
Its been about 4 days, second try. I messed up once before this after going 7 days
Atramental
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Yeah same here.
I've finished day 3 and it's weird how un-aroused I have been.
Literally nothing or barely anything in the boner department.
I've finished day 3 and it's weird how un-aroused I have been.
Literally nothing or barely anything in the boner department.
Mr. B Natural
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Maybe it's because I'm older, but so far I haven't had much issue shaking off porn. Alright, next step, shake off my need to be connected to the internet at all times. Shaking off gaming was easy as well because, well, you can thank the childish gaming culture and sad state of developers of the 21st century for that. But this internet... this one, this one is gonna be tough. I can do it though but I need a goal because there's no real way to cold turkey this and personally, I don't want to cold turkey it, I just want some balance in my life and focus.
CoffeeJanitor
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Seriously, stop. You won't regret it.
You might have some issue with willpower if you really can't last 24 hours. I mean... surely at some point in your life you just weren't able to rub one out in the span of a day.
To be more encouraging, I found the first three days the hardest and things got easier from there.
Well shit. Others have reported a complete reduction in attraction but I certainly haven't got that yet. Tomorrow will be the end of the third week too. I'm basically in high school mode where even the mere mention of something sexual will get me aroused.
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