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[redcrayon]

I don't get why people get so worked up about it. He's just one guy on the internet, where you can find a ton of differing opinions on anything in seconds. The unique selling point of his stuff is to try and be funny and make bizarre extreme analogies, he pretty much does it to everything.

I play quite a few Nintendo games, have probably bought a couple of dozen first party games over the years, including the first two Kid Icarus games, and I also found the control scheme to be really poor, no matter which variant I use.

My off hand wasn't precise enough to shoot with the stylus (I'm left-handed), nor is it particularly comfortable to target using 4 buttons as a replacement second stick. That way also clearly isn't as fast or accurate as it would be using the stylus in my primary hand, which is what right-handers are able to do.

Seeing as it's 15 years after Lylat Wars worked fine with one analogue stick, I'm mystified as to how it got through quality control, and how they thought adding a stand was a suitable fix for a handheld game.

 

[Boss Doggie]

I think it's more to the fact that he has the ability to color people's opinions. But eh, even though we might agree on some points that doesn't make his review anymore of a legit one over other people.

You should see how people make it so that his words are gospel. Apparently by playing games like Thief and Braid you're a godsend!

 

[PairOfFilthySocks]

But he's above reproach because he's a critic.

No he's not, he actually calls games out on their bullshit regardless of who its publisher is, unlike the vast majority of game critics.

 

[Odrion]

I was totally going to buy ten copies of Kid Icarus until I saw that Yahtzee review. Now I'm actively telling every person I come into contact with to avoid the game at all costs!

 

[Orayn]

No he's not, he actually calls games out on their bullshit regardless of who its publisher is, unlike the vast majority of game critics.

You're right! He does it so well that he sometimes gives up on a game that he's barely started and declares it to be awful because he's a fussy child who can't decide whether or not he wants people to take him seriously.

 

[Gestahl]

You're right! He does it so well that he sometimes gives up on a game that he's barely started and declares it to be awful because he's a fussy child who can't decide whether or not he wants people to take him seriously.

Also he's as good at games as a one-eyed man with broken thumbs, and one of the thumbs is always up his butt and so on

 

[PairOfFilthySocks]

You're right! He does it so well that he sometimes gives up on a game that he's barely started and declares it to be awful because he's a fussy child who can't decide whether or not he wants people to take him seriously.

I don't think he wants people to take him seriously, seems like he just wants the Nintendo fans to stop flooding his e-mail whenever he doesn't fall in line.

 

[Boss Doggie]

Ah, the catch-22 argument.

No he's not, he actually calls games out on their bullshit regardless of who its publisher is, unlike the vast majority of game critics.

That's... not what that post means.

The post means that the "critic" cannot be criticized. He's not talking about "critics not crossing lines". To which I agree, a lot of people are really defensive towards anything contrarian to him.

 

[Gestahl]

He's just a jokey clown come on guys don't be so serious, but he also tells it like it and doesn't take shit from anyone *swoon*

 

[Orayn]

I don't think he wants people to take him seriously, seems like he just wants the Nintendo fans to stop flooding his e-mail whenever he doesn't fall in line.

When people agree with him, he fancies himself a serious critic worthy of respect. When he puts up a bad review and people call him on his bullshit, he's just kidding and only doing it for comedy.

 

[Bentles]

I remember he "reviewed" monster hunter tri and it seemed like he barely played it, didn't get it, didn't care and then gave a shitty representation of the game. Great reviewing style. He's not funny anyway.

 

[Kai Dracon]

When people agree with him, he fancies himself a serious critic worthy of respect. When he puts up a bad review and people call him on his bullshit, he's just kidding and only doing it for comedy.

Regardless of how 'real' his reviews are, he enjoys the built-in protection of the career troll:

If you say he's full of shit, you're either A: a whiny fanboy who's butthurt, or B: you just have no sense of humor, and don't get that it's all a joke.

But the point is, his gimmick sells. There's plenty of people who have a taste for exaggerated negativity for the sake of itself, whether it's funny or not. The fans who ditto-head Yahtzee often seem to be hair-temper gamers themselves, who more or less dislike most games and throw the controller down after five minutes because the jump button was in the wrong place or some shit.

(And no, I'm not directing that last part at anyone specifically on GAF, or related to Kid Icarus' controls. I refer to his general popularity across the net.)

 

[Boss Doggie]

If you say he's full of shit, you're either A: a whiny fanboy who's butthurt, or B: you just have no sense of humor, and don't get that it's all a joke.

Exactly - hence the catch-22 argument.

Also I tend not to agree with the "despite his x reasons, there's some truth to it". I mean, that's why they're subjective after all - that doesn't make the opinion any more or less "a gospel". The problem is that even with that reasoning somehow they still stick to them like it's the "one truth".

 

[Air Zombie Meat]

If you say he's full of shit, you're either A: a whiny fanboy who's butthurt, or B: you just have no sense of humor, and don't get that it's all a joke.

Yup, and this is the real reason reason why theres no discussion in the zp thread anymore.

 

[AshMcCool]

When he hates on a game you do not like: "OMG he so smart, funny etc."
When he hates on a game you do like: "OMG, nobody takes that guy serious anyway "

 

[TheLastCandle]

I just don't like him because I'm completely fucking sick of exaggerated negativity towards any game.

 

[Orayn]

When he hates on a game you do not like: "OMG he so smart, funny etc."
When he hates on a game you do like: "OMG, nobody takes that guy serious anyway "

Flip the perspective on this and you realize what he's doing.

 

[Boss Doggie]

When he hates on a game you do not like: "OMG he so smart, funny etc."
When he hates on a game you do like: "OMG, nobody takes that guy serious anyway "

On the contrary, I don't find him entertaining and substantial

 

[Chunky]

He needs to make more games/ write more books. Mogworld was a pretty funny take on MMO's.

 

[Bjoern the Smexy]

Well, Yahtzee certainly has a different opinion than me on almost every game.
Kid Icarus is no exception.

That doesn't mean that I have to tell him that he is "wrong" in my opinion.
If he can't enjoy a good game the way others do...well, it's his problem.

I enjoy the videos he makes, that doesn't mean I have to agree with him.

Too many people don't know that.

 

[Marlowe89]

On the contrary, I don't find him entertaining and substantial

Bingo.

His more criticizing opinions are definitely valid in some way because they do speak for some, but more often than not they don't apply to my tastes or bother me remotely. It's a subjective thing, but it's nothing substantial for me in particular. Exhibit A: Uprising's control scheme; there's nothing objectively wrong with it when so many genuinely enjoy it, and I think certain people need to just admit the game isn't for them instead of throwing out any half-assed attempts to pin the controls as this gigantically flawed thing.

Same goes for his entertainment since one's taste in humor is extremely varied, but the comedy became pretty damn stale for me awhile ago and now it feels like a whining retread of the same tired shit.

 

[PataHikari]

When he hates on a game you do not like: "OMG he so smart, funny etc."
When he hates on a game you do like: "OMG, nobody takes that guy serious anyway "

No it's more like

When he makes any video ever: This guy's a nitpicky, unfunny idiot who has no idea what he's talking about.

Also, I sometimes doubt he actually plays the games he "reviews"

 

[ZoddGutts]

People are still butt hurt over this? lol

 

[PataHikari]

People are still butt hurt over this? lol

Surprise! A person's who's sole job is to spout lies and trolling to piss people off pisses people off!

 

[Boss Doggie]

People are still butt hurt over this? lol

And this is an example - any contrarian talk = butthurt.

 

[NEO0MJ]

Also, I sometimes doubt he actually plays the games he "reviews"

It's already been mentioned several times that he didn't get past the tutorial in Monster Hunter, so there's that.

 

[Uno Venova]

Surprise! A person's who's sole job is to spout lies and trolling to piss people off pisses people off!

He lies?

 

[Boss Doggie]

He lies?

How can one tell though? The problem is that he sometimes can craft words so convincing that you can take his word for it (which is why I agree that he should be a writer, he is pretty good with words). Essentially that's one of my critique to his show - we have to rely in his words because he isn't showing what is wrong.

 

[tetrisgrammaton]

he's just mad because he has to wear that stupid hat

 

[WrenchNinja]

How can one tell though?

By playing the game yourself.

 

[Boss Doggie]

By playing the game yourself.

You're implying that experience is the same though. Like I said, he crafts his words well that they sound convincing. That's why I'd rather prefer something like AVGN - at least even if he intentionally plays it roughly, at least there's the video going for it that works with the routine - you KNOW he is faking it.

 

[John]

i don't get why people can't seem to understand the difference between ironic reviews and reviews which make heavy use of irony

 

[Deleted member 74300]

No it's more like

When he makes any video ever: This guy's a nitpicky, unfunny idiot who has no idea what he's talking about.

Also, I sometimes doubt he actually plays the games he "reviews"

Pretty much this.

 

[Koroviev]

I don't understand why people care so much. He's trashed plenty of games I liked, but the reviews were still amusing. I'd actually love it if he reviewed something like Tales of Graces f, which I know that he'd despise. Again, I like the game, but the aspects of it that don't bother me would drive him mad. That's the nature of reviews: game critics look at their experience and weigh each element according to their personal preferences. While fans of Kid Icarus clearly feel that the control scheme is a barrier to be overcome, many others view it as a reason to stop playing. To each their own.

 

[Uno Venova]

How can one tell though? The problem is that he sometimes can craft words so convincing that you can take his word for it (which is why I agree that he should be a writer, he is pretty good with words). Essentially that's one of my critique to his show - we have to rely in his words because he isn't showing what is wrong.

Well if PataHikari means lying about the flaws in games he is wrong in my view. I play mostly the same games as Yahtzee and he usually right about the flaws, he just might exaggerate them for comedic effect.

 

[SpacePirate Ridley]

I think he is a shitty reviewer. I dont even like some of his reviews of games I dont like or think that are only good (and I even agree with some of the flaws he notices in games), because they are usually full of shit, like if someone started playing 15 minutes and said "fuck it lets start the fucking review". He thinks his funny because he greatly exagerates the flaws of any game, but IMO he is not, he just comes as a huge jerk, even if its only a character.

 

[MMaRsu]

I think he is a shitty reviewer. I dont even like some of his reviews of games I dont even like because they are usually full of shit, like if someone started playing 15 minutes and said "fuck it lets start the fucking review". He thinks his funny because he greatly exagerates the flaws of any game, but IMO he is not, he just comes as a huge jerk, even if its only a character.

Please show me a couple of reviews where he is full of shit.

 

[Overdoziz]

ITT people want more "10 out of 10!"s.

 

[Seraphinianus]

Surprise! A person's who's sole job is to spout lies and trolling to piss people off pisses people off!

truly a dream job - very easy and fun

i love when he reviews a sacred cow or any nintendo game. Threads filled with "who?" "he's still around" and general analysis of his "review style" as if that were the point of his vids

 

[Jackpot]

Why is it always Nintendo fans? There has to be a reason.

 

[Riposte]

ITT people want more "10 out of 10!"s.

Totally nailed it dude!

 

[Seraphinianus]

Why is it always Nintendo fans? There has to be a reason.

delusions of a corporation being their friend

 

[Kinyou]

I think most of the time is points are actually valid. It just depends if I have the same expectations for that specific videogame as he has. Saying that he's lying in his reviews sounds kind of absurd.

If he played the game for only 15 minutes he's usually quite clear about it.

 

[Dr.Hadji]

Why is it always Nintendo fans? There has to be a reason.

Because it is not always Nintendo fans. Keep thinking that though.

 

[Des0lar]

Of course he is exaggerating the nagatives. That's what he is all about. He disliked the first Witcher, one of my favorit games and I couldn't care less about it. I still watch his videos and find them genuinly funny. When everyone else is just scoring games according to publisher money, at least he's at the opposite end of the spectrum. Also when he praises a game in one of his reviews it means that this is a true gem. Like Portal for example. (Or the whole OB for that matter).

He dislikes the recent Nintendo stuff like motion controls and 3D and he said that more often than not in his reviews. Look at his reviews, correct him if he is wrong on some points, fair enough.

I just don't get the hate. He's been shitting in recent Nintendo games since the Wii. Why should he lie if he dooesn't enjoy the game? Best thing about him is that he doesn't give scores. Thats what I really appreciate about him.

Because it is not always Nintendo fans. Keep thinking that though.

Show me the last non-Nintendo game that he has trashed, that was recieved with such a backlash. Seriously. I just want to know, because I certainly don't remember any.

 

[More Fun To Compute]

We really need examples of fans of something other than Nintendo making such huge asses of themselves so that a lot of people start taking notice? Here on neogaf?

 

[Snuggles]

We really need examples of fans of something other than Nintendo making such huge asses of themselves so that a lot of people start taking notice? Here on neogaf?

Yeah, there's at least an 8 out of 10 chance that something like that has happened.

 

[MMaRsu]

We really need examples of fans of something other than Nintendo making such huge asses of themselves so that a lot of people start taking notice? Here on neogaf?

in regards to Zero Punctuation.

 

[MYE]

Why is it always Nintendo fans? There has to be a reason.

It is? I

 

[Wrestlemania]

Show me the last non-Nintendo game that he has trashed, that was recieved with such a backlash. Seriously. I just want to know, because I certainly don't remember any.

Show me the last non-Nintendo game that he trashed despite being well regarded and not trashed similarly elsewhere.
That's a genuine request, I'm sure there are some but I can remember any as it's the Nintendo ones that really stand out.