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The Black Culture Thread

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PhoenixDark

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Maron said:
Yeah, I've always thought the whole complex or whatever over that was odd. I guess you have to be a black woman to even begin to understand things like that...

Odd how prevalent it can be even when you think the girl your dealing with would be above that kind of thinking.
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Black women are graduating more than black men, they're making more money, etc etc etc...I don't get it. They're quite marketable in terms of dating, and there are plenty of white guys who like black girls. I don't get the "black men need to save black women from irrelevance" argument, given the facts. They run shit, not us.

I like black women. I'm surrounded by more white women at work and school, and in many ways identify with them more in terms of music, reading, general interests etc. Yet at the same time I will readily admit I would feel uncomfortable dating a white woman due to my own personal insecurities on race relations. I say I don't care what people think, yet I could never date a white woman without constantly thinking about what others think. What if she gained weight? I've spent years noting the "black guy with fat white woman" thing, what if I found myself in that situation.

And yes, I'd wonder about my family's reaction. My parents would be fine with it, but the rest of my family...ehh. My mom has been trying to set me up with a series of black chicks who all are quite similar: strong black professional families, high achievers, smart, etc. What if I fell in love with a white psychology student?
 
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DY_nasty

NeoGAF's official "was this shooting justified" consultant
PhoenixDark said:
Black women are graduating more than black men, they're making more money, etc etc etc...I don't get it. They're quite marketable in terms of dating, and there are plenty of white guys who like black girls. I don't get the "black men need to save black women from irrelevance" argument, given the facts. They run shit, not us.

I like black women. I'm surrounded by more white women at work and school, and in many ways identify with them more in terms of music, reading, general interests etc. Yet at the same time I will readily admit I would feel uncomfortable dating a white woman due to my own personal insecurities on race relations. I say I don't care what people think, yet I could never date a white woman without constantly thinking about what others think. What if she gained weight? I've spent years noting the "black guy with fat white woman" thing, what if I found myself in that situation.

And yes, I'd wonder about my family's reaction. My parents would be fine with it, but the rest of my family...ehh. My mom has been trying to set me up with a series of black chicks who all are quite similar: strong black professional families, high achievers, smart, etc. What if I fell in love with a white psychology student?
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I kinda agree with your post for the most part the but the bolded really stuck out for me.

I never want to be that guy. Its just that there's such an awful stigma that goes along with it...

That being said, find those gym rats. People who exercise typically have less drama and work out their issues better too.
 
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Urban Scholar

Member
masud said:
Yeah if I'm dating a white woman she has to be super bad. I refuse to be that guy.
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Honestly speaking in any situation I don't want to be that guy either. I'm a regular gym goer and run like crazy. It just comes down to someone(race aside) to take care of themselves. At the same time more power to the dudes that are into that sort of thing.
 
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Baby Milo

Member
Never had a problem with dating white women or women of any other race. My preference really isn't toward white women though. I need some melanin in there though LOL most of my gf's have been black or asian.
 
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DominoKid

Member
PhoenixDark said:
Black women are graduating more than black men, they're making more money, etc etc etc...I don't get it. They're quite marketable in terms of dating, and there are plenty of white guys who like black girls. I don't get the "black men need to save black women from irrelevance" argument, given the facts. They run shit, not us.

I like black women. I'm surrounded by more white women at work and school, and in many ways identify with them more in terms of music, reading, general interests etc. Yet at the same time I will readily admit I would feel uncomfortable dating a white woman due to my own personal insecurities on race relations. I say I don't care what people think, yet I could never date a white woman without constantly thinking about what others think. What if she gained weight? I've spent years noting the "black guy with fat white woman" thing, what if I found myself in that situation.

And yes, I'd wonder about my family's reaction. My parents would be fine with it, but the rest of my family...ehh. My mom has been trying to set me up with a series of black chicks who all are quite similar: strong black professional families, high achievers, smart, etc. What if I fell in love with a white psychology student?
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Never. If I can stay in shape, I expect my woman to do the same. That's not so unreasonable.
I don't even work out a lot. Just lift and basketball for cardio and stuntin.

I always found it amusing when bigger guys start complaining that their girl's put on some weight.
 
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Face it Tiger..

Banned
Nakazato said:
Idris Elba and Black Panther....DOOOOO EEEETTTTT
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they can throw in Power Man, Falcon & Black Fuckin' Panther.

I wouldn't expect them to do this in the next 10 years
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Rayven_king

Member
I just watched avengers again in 3d this time

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Seriously it didn't make no damn sense showin all dat ass in front of them kids.....but I'm glad they did :D
 
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DominoKid

Member
Rayven_king said:
I just watched avengers again in 3d this time

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Seriously it didn't make no damn sense showin all dat ass in front of them kids.....but I'm glad they did :D[/QUOTE]

ScarJo needs to get back to her He's Just Not That Into You punching weight. IDK if thats up or down, but that was the zenith of female beauty.
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Bay Maximus

Banned
PhoenixDark said:
Black women are graduating more than black men, they're making more money, etc etc etc...I don't get it. They're quite marketable in terms of dating, and there are plenty of white guys who like black girls. I don't get the "black men need to save black women from irrelevance" argument, given the facts. They run shit, not us.

I like black women. I'm surrounded by more white women at work and school, and in many ways identify with them more in terms of music, reading, general interests etc. Yet at the same time I will readily admit I would feel uncomfortable dating a white woman due to my own personal insecurities on race relations. I say I don't care what people think, yet I could never date a white woman without constantly thinking about what others think. What if she gained weight? I've spent years noting the "black guy with fat white woman" thing, what if I found myself in that situation.

And yes, I'd wonder about my family's reaction. My parents would be fine with it, but the rest of my family...ehh. My mom has been trying to set me up with a series of black chicks who all are quite similar: strong black professional families, high achievers, smart, etc. What if I fell in love with a white psychology student?
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I know I'm late but I am quoting for truth on this one. I saw this the most when I was in Texas and I always wanted to just say "c'mon on son". But as long as they're both happy, which they usually look happy so, eh.
 
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DominoKid

Member
one woman's take on "Why Black Women Are Fat"

FOUR out of five black women are seriously overweight. One out of four middle-aged black women has diabetes. With $174 billion a year spent on diabetes-related illness in America and obesity quickly overtaking smoking as a cause of cancer deaths, it is past time to try something new.

What we need is a body-culture revolution in black America. Why? Because too many experts who are involved in the discussion of obesity don’t understand something crucial about black women and fat: many black women are fat because we want to be.

The black poet Lucille Clifton’s 1987 poem “Homage to My Hips” begins with the boast, “These hips are big hips.” She establishes big black hips as something a woman would want to have and a man would desire. She wasn’t the first or the only one to reflect this community knowledge. Twenty years before, in 1967, Joe Tex, a black Texan, dominated the radio airwaves across black America with a song he wrote and recorded, “Skinny Legs and All.” One of his lines haunts me to this day: “some man, somewhere who’ll take you baby, skinny legs and all.” For me, it still seems almost an impossibility.

Chemically, in its ability to promote disease, black fat may be the same as white fat. Culturally it is not.

How many white girls in the ’60s grew up praying for fat thighs? I know I did. I asked God to give me big thighs like my dancing teacher, Diane. There was no way I wanted to look like Twiggy, the white model whose boy-like build was the dream of white girls. Not with Joe Tex ringing in my ears.

How many middle-aged white women fear their husbands will find them less attractive if their weight drops to less than 200 pounds? I have yet to meet one.

But I know many black women whose sane, handsome, successful husbands worry when their women start losing weight. My lawyer husband is one.

Another friend, a woman of color who is a tenured professor, told me that her husband, also a tenured professor and of color, begged her not to lose “the sugar down below” when she embarked on a weight-loss program.

And it’s not only aesthetics that make black fat different. It’s politics too. To get a quick introduction to the politics of black fat, I recommend Andrea Elizabeth Shaw’s provocative book “The Embodiment of Disobedience: Fat Black Women’s Unruly Political Bodies.” Ms. Shaw argues that the fat black woman’s body “functions as a site of resistance to both gendered and racialized oppression.” By contextualizing fatness within the African diaspora, she invites us to notice that the fat black woman can be a rounded opposite of the fit black slave, that the fatness of black women has often functioned as both explicit political statement and active political resistance.

When the biologist Daniel Lieberman suggested in a public lecture at Harvard this past February that exercise for everyone should be mandated by law, the audience applauded, the Harvard Gazette reported. A room full of thin affluent people applauding the idea of forcing fatties, many of whom are dark, poor and exhausted, to exercise appalls me. Government mandated exercise is a vicious concept. But I get where Mr. Lieberman is coming from. The cost of too many people getting too fat is too high.

I live in Nashville. There is an ongoing rivalry between Nashville and Memphis. In black Nashville, we like to think of ourselves as the squeaky-clean brown town best known for our colleges and churches. In contrast, black Memphis is known for its music and bars and churches. We often tease the city up the road by saying that in Nashville we have a church on every corner and in Memphis they have a church and a liquor store on every corner. Only now the saying goes, there’s a church, a liquor store and a dialysis center on every corner in black Memphis.

The billions that we are spending to treat diabetes is money that we don’t have for education reform or retirement benefits, and what’s worse, it’s estimated that the total cost of America’s obesity epidemic could reach almost $1 trillion by 2030 if we keep on doing what we have been doing.

WE have to change. Black women especially. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, blacks have 51 percent higher obesity rates than whites do. We’ve got to do better. I’ve weighed more than 200 pounds. Now I weigh less. It will always be a battle.

My goal is to be the last fat black woman in my family. For me that has meant swirling exercise into my family culture, of my own free will and volition. I have my own personal program: walk eight miles a week, sleep eight hours a night and drink eight glasses of water a day.

I call on every black woman for whom it is appropriate to commit to getting under 200 pounds or to losing the 10 percent of our body weight that often results in a 50 percent reduction in diabetes risk. Sleeping better may be key, as recent research suggests that lack of sleep is a little-acknowledged culprit in obesity. But it is not just sleep, exercise and healthy foods we need to solve this problem — we also need wisdom.

I expect obesity will be like alcoholism. People who know the problem intimately find their way out, then lead a few others. The few become millions.

Down here, that movement has begun. I hold Zumba classes in my dining room, have a treadmill in my kitchen and have organized yoga classes for women up to 300 pounds. And I’ve got a weighted exercise Hula-Hoop I call the black Cadillac. Our go-to family dinner is sliced cucumbers, salsa, spinach and scrambled egg whites with onions. Our go-to snack is peanut butter — no added sugar or salt — on a spoon. My quick breakfast is a roasted sweet potato, no butter, or Greek yogurt with six almonds.

That’s soul food, Nashville 2012.

I may never get small doing all of this. But I have made it much harder for the next generation, including my 24-year-old daughter, to get large.
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Oldschoolgamer

The physical form of blasphemy
Man, half tired reading through Domino's post was frustrating as hell. It's like, read this text or stare at Kate Upton. lol.

At any rate, yea, black folks need to get it together when it comes to weight issues. It makes no sense that in this day and age, black people are dieing this much due to obesity, diabetes, and stds. It's like, I read that entire post and a decent amount of it just seemed like excuses.

I get kinda mad, because I get sick if I don't take care of myself. Seeing shit like people not caring about their health burns me up. Call me bitter or whatever, but yea. That's not to say everyone is lazy/can fix whatever, cause I know that's not the case.
 
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MWS Natural

Member
PhoenixDark said:
I like black women. I'm surrounded by more white women at work and school, and in many ways identify with them more in terms of music, reading, general interests etc. Yet at the same time I will readily admit I would feel uncomfortable dating a white woman due to my own personal insecurities on race relations. I say I don't care what people think, yet I could never date a white woman without constantly thinking about what others think. What if she gained weight? I've spent years noting the "black guy with fat white woman" thing, what if I found myself in that situation.

And yes, I'd wonder about my family's reaction. My parents would be fine with it, but the rest of my family...ehh. My mom has been trying to set me up with a series of black chicks who all are quite similar: strong black professional families, high achievers, smart, etc. What if I fell in love with a white psychology student?
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Don't think about it so much, just do it. You seem to be intelligent enough to discuss and work through whatever issues you both incounter.
One funny thing that I have noticed though from my experiences:

Out in public dating a fat, ugly/average looking whitegirl

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Out in public dating an attractive white girl

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Anyone else share the same experiences?
 
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DominoKid

Member
MWS Natural said:
Don't think about it so much, just do it. You seem to be intelligent enough to discuss and work through whatever issues you both incounter.
One funny thing that I have noticed though from my experiences:

Out in public dating a fat, ugly/average looking whitegirl
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Out in public dating an attractive white girl

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Anyone else share the same experiences?
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Fixed for my experiences. Honestly you dont even have to be dating. Just be with them and see what happens.
 
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PhoenixDark

Banned
Yea, just eating lunch with a white woman at school will lead to dat stare from more than a few black women.

But yea, I see so many black dude/overweight white woman combos it's crazy. I get the socioeconomic reason behind it (they tend to live in the same areas, make similar amounts of money etc) but often I get the impression these dudes honestly feel dating a white woman someone puts them a step ahead on the scale of life. It's really weird. Obvious people should love who they love, but it often seems more like a case of a guy snagging whichever woman can drive him around and has cable at the crib.
 
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Vermillion

Banned
PhoenixDark said:
Yea, just eating lunch with a white woman at school will lead to dat stare from more than a few black women.

But yea, I see so many black dude/overweight white woman combos it's crazy. I get the socioeconomic reason behind it (they tend to live in the same areas, make similar amounts of money etc) but often I get the impression these dudes honestly feel dating a white woman someone puts them a step ahead on the scale of life. It's really weird. Obvious people should love who they love, but it often seems more like a case of a guy snagging whichever woman can drive him around and has cable at the crib.
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If I recall correctly, this is one of the reasons that not a lot of movies have a black/white couple for the leading role.
 
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hwalker84

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PhoenixDark said:
Yea, just eating lunch with a white woman at school will lead to dat stare from more than a few black women.

But yea, I see so many black dude/overweight white woman combos it's crazy. I get the socioeconomic reason behind it (they tend to live in the same areas, make similar amounts of money etc) but often I get the impression these dudes honestly feel dating a white woman someone puts them a step ahead on the scale of life. It's really weird. Obvious people should love who they love, but it often seems more like a case of a guy snagging whichever woman can drive him around and has cable at the crib.
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That stare is so ignorant. One time i was out with my white lady friend (who i wasn't dating and never have done anything with) at a bar. When I walked by to go to the bathroom these two black woman said something really ignorant (if i recall they called me a sellout or something of the sort). I stopped and said "Excuse me. First of all this is none of your business, second shes my friend maybe if you stopped being ignorant bitches you'd find a good man."

Then I walked away like this
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Onemic

Member
Black Republican said:
i await a asian female - black man lead in a film


oh and free musafa :-(
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The closest we'll ever get to that is Romeo Must Die.

And dominos article....Is she really trying to say that black males want 200+ pound obese women as their ideal mate? Because that's quite a reaching claim.
 
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DY_nasty

NeoGAF's official "was this shooting justified" consultant
Honestly, I'm still not quite over having one of my best relationships end because of a culture gap.

I'm not even upset about losing the girl. I'm upset that I never even had a chance.
 
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mr jones

Ethnicity is not a race!
Holy crap at his wifey. Yum.


Oh, and in regards to mixed couples in starring roles, there's a television show called Parenthood that has a white dude and a black chick as a couple. My girlfriend LOVES that show. However, she recently started to not like it quite so much, because in the show the white dude cheats on her, and she leaves him, starts going with a black dude, only to end up going back to the white guy. That pissed my girl off...

She also thinks the mixed couple thing is why Hancock didn't do too well in theaters. I just thought that it did bad 'cause it wasn't a good movie. :)
 
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Onemic

Member
mr jones said:
Holy crap at his wifey. Yum.


Oh, and in regards to mixed couples in starring roles, there's a television show called Parenthood that has a white dude and a black chick as a couple. My girlfriend LOVES that show. However, she recently started to not like it quite so much, because in the show the white dude cheats on her, and she leaves him, starts going with a black dude, only to end up going back to the white guy. That pissed my girl off...

She also thinks the mixed couple thing is why Hancock didn't do too well in theaters. I just thought that it did bad 'cause it wasn't a good movie. :)
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I thought Hancock was a summer hit? It was never hinted that there would be a romance between Theron and Smith at all.

But ya, black male and white female romance seem to be a huge no no in hollywood and TV in general. Just look at that Bachelor thread.
 
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