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AceBandage
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Screw GTA. Get Just Cause 3 with optional Nintendo locations.
I'm down with this idea.
Screw Just Cause 3. Get Saints Row 4 with Nintendo Costumes.
I agree that November is going to likely be the month for Wii U's release. Nintendo can probably afford to wait that long given how the second half of the year is going to be stronger for Nintendo's 3DS software lineup. You've got Mario Tennis, Animal Crossing, Paper Mario, New SMB 2, Luigi's Mansion,Professor Layton: Miracle Mask (Nintendo's publishing it in North America and Europe), and even Pokemon Black & White 2. Nintendo's obviously counting on some of them to be evergreen titles. In addition, Iwata said that Nintendo will begin to make a profit off of 3DS hardware again starting in August.
Funny thing.. what happens if Nintendo were to pay a buttload of money - and then the game ends-up being garbage? Or it sells poorly?
I'm uneasy with that part of the GTA-as-status-symbol scenario as well.
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Rösti
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Here's a small and rather boring tidbit. I was browsing some PDFs and came across this document from the 9th of April: https://fubonresearch.fbs.com.tw/FILE/17223.pdf
It's from Hong Kong based company Fubon Securities and concerns the Taiwan-based Lingsen Precision Industries Ltd.,. Lingsen has been since 2009 assembling MEMS gyroscope sensors for Wii. The sensors come from InvenSense. Here's what the document says:
One interesting thing here though is that 3Q12 is mentioned for release period. Whether it is the fiscal year of Lingsen I don't know, but otherwise quarter three is the 1st of July to the 30th of September.
It's from Hong Kong based company Fubon Securities and concerns the Taiwan-based Lingsen Precision Industries Ltd.,. Lingsen has been since 2009 assembling MEMS gyroscope sensors for Wii. The sensors come from InvenSense. Here's what the document says:
One interesting thing here though is that 3Q12 is mentioned for release period. Whether it is the fiscal year of Lingsen I don't know, but otherwise quarter three is the 1st of July to the 30th of September.
Well that too. Still it blows because I think Chinatown Wars is the best GTA since Vice City.
Still, I'm very curious about third parties and Wii U. Honestly, I don't expect anything big to happen. The only thing I need is Capcom being there from day one and hoping they bring something worthwhile. Everything else coming along is bonus stuff.
test_account
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How big was the budget for Chinatown Wars?
GTA was also popular before it went to 3D. I remember GTA moving to 3D was much anticipated/exciting.
Thread worthy, imo, but maybe ask EC first. A September launch would be big news.Rösti;37640357 said:
Edit: Actually, find out their FY first.
Well, okay then. Agree to disagree.
GameplayWhore
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Rösti;37640357 said:
Maybe they're talking about Nintendo's Q3. That's October to December.
(edit: despite my naysaying, this is indeed worthy of looking into)
fluffydelusions
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Has this been posted yet?
Blockbuster UK Lists Possible Wii U Launch Titles
Blockbuster UK Lists Possible Wii U Launch Titles
http://wii.ign.com/articles/122/1224426p1.html#disqus_thread
-Pyromaniac-
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POSTEDMANYTIMES OLDFAKEWRONG
tkscz
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Whats even on this list that we didn't already know about?
fluffydelusions
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Ah ok, it was just posted today on IGN so didn't know.
You know they won't. Why pay license fees for outdated legacy features?
-Pyromaniac-
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sorry for capslocking you
GameplayWhore
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You're fine. I got your context.
But I was coming back to add/ask that wasn't the 1/60th latency dealing with the controller image vs the TV image making the latency a moot point if the gameplay is strictly on the Upads?
Hmm. I'm not sure now. I thought the latency as described was an overall measure of time starting from the beginning of the render pipe for the first pixel to the point where the final pixel had been displayed on the controller.
This is just a sign that one coffee is not enough for proper Speculation.
Apophis2036
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If we are not getting a release date at E3 then when do you guys think they will tell us this info, TGS ?.
boiled goose
good with gravy
Nintendo Should try to secure a third party titles By making deals to promote them. Not straight money hatting.
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Rösti
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Nintendo announced the price and release date of Wii at the Wii Preview Event in New York on the 14th of September, 2006. That's approximately two months prior to release date (19th of November). I'm expecting Nintendo to do a similar event for Wii U, as they rarely attend Tokyo Game Show.
And here's another document to read, it's a survey where 12% of the survey members would purchase Wii U (at £250) if they had £1,500 to spend: http://www.wiggin.co.uk/images/wiggin/files/publications/des2012_np.pdf
Freezie KO
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You misspelled "Just Dance."
GameplayWhore
Member
"Damaged Consoles".
(edit: fixed once I actually got back to a computer to look up dem pics)
Mihael Mello Keehl
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lol its like people drop in here post some old news like this is not the WUST.. anyways I cant really post much been really sick lately not feelin it..lurking like hell though!
Smiles and Cries
Member
I doubt 13 year olds think Nintendo is cool
all these kids have a 360 and are on LIVE all the time
It's not fake, its just insignificant. It's a real list from Blockbuster's computers, but all evidence suggests (and nothing counters it) that the list is speculative with no inside information to make it worthwhile.
GameplayWhore
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None of them on GAF seem to, at least.
Edit: Somebody let me know if I ever approach the point where my useless charts seem overly spammy, btw
Agent Unknown
Member
I'll again cite the real life example of a guy I'm car pooling with who insists he'll just use Steam/his PC and Wii U for his console needs if NextBox (don't care if u don't like this nick) and PS4 are too expensive and prevent used games and/or lack BC. He plays on XBL a lot too and doesn't seem too concerned about losing his friend list, achievements, ect. He may not be the norm right now but it's a good demonstration of what some outside the "forum discussion side of things" are starting to feel the more things develop.
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(I love your Lunar Lander joke, BTW. Be assured that it hasn't gone un-noticed, haha..)
None of them on GAF seem to, at least.
Edit: Somebody let me know if I ever approach the point where my useless charts seem overly spammy, btw
You ain't kidding..
Here is what I think 3rd parties will have available at launch if the rumored November launch is accurate (day 1, not launch window):
Activision:
Call of Duty: Black Ops 2
007 Skyfall
Skylanders: Giants
EA:
Medal of Honor: Warfighter
Madden 13
NBA Live 13
NHL 13
UbiSoft:
Assasin's Creed III
Rayman Legends
Killer Freaks From Outer Space (this may be delayed so as to not get drowned out in all the ports)
THQ:
Darksiders II
WWE '13
Sega:
Aliens: Colonial Marines
Tecmo Koie:
Ninja Gaiden: Razor's Edge
Codemasters:
F1 (I think DiRT may have been cancelled- it was removed from Nintendo Power's list of Wii U games in development- they must have removed it for a reason)
Warner Bros:
Batman: Arkham City GOTY Edition
Again, I believe this will cause some of the late-r ports (i.e. Darksiders II) to get crushed. Releasing Madden in Nov would be pointless as well as people would have been playing their 360/PS3 version for months at this point and won't abandon their teams for playmaking. This is why I beleive an earlier launch (September) would be more appropriate. The ports would be released before the holiday blockbusters and Madden won't be irrelevant at that point.
Activision:
Call of Duty: Black Ops 2
007 Skyfall
Skylanders: Giants
EA:
Medal of Honor: Warfighter
Madden 13
NBA Live 13
NHL 13
UbiSoft:
Assasin's Creed III
Rayman Legends
Killer Freaks From Outer Space (this may be delayed so as to not get drowned out in all the ports)
THQ:
Darksiders II
WWE '13
Sega:
Aliens: Colonial Marines
Tecmo Koie:
Ninja Gaiden: Razor's Edge
Codemasters:
F1 (I think DiRT may have been cancelled- it was removed from Nintendo Power's list of Wii U games in development- they must have removed it for a reason)
Warner Bros:
Batman: Arkham City GOTY Edition
Again, I believe this will cause some of the late-r ports (i.e. Darksiders II) to get crushed. Releasing Madden in Nov would be pointless as well as people would have been playing their 360/PS3 version for months at this point and won't abandon their teams for playmaking. This is why I beleive an earlier launch (September) would be more appropriate. The ports would be released before the holiday blockbusters and Madden won't be irrelevant at that point.
My brother is 16, and I have cousins in the same age. They play some Halo, but that's basically it. Nintendo games on the other hand.. really, they play Melee and Brawl and Project M, analyze every single detail in the games.. they play dozens of crazy ass rom hacks at which I fail in an instant. Seriously, Super Mario World ROM Hacks are more hardcore than 99% percent of games released in this generation. And they play through them like it's nothing.
When I asked about him why he doesn't like to play on the PS3 for once, it's because he just doesn't like any franchise on it. The only game he played on PS3 for more than one hour was MK9 and that's just because he played MK Snes rom hacks :lol
Really, don't underestimate the youngsters.
Wasn't this delayed to 2013?
I thought it was delayed to Fall 2012?
Aliens is one of my most anticipated Wii U games. I think they'll do some neat stuff with the hardware and controller.
I was in a best buy in the years before wii when I witnessed a kid of ten or so hiss "gamecube sucks!"
Bad asses don't think Nintendo is cool, no matter what the age.
GameplayWhore
Member
This just shows that you're old enough to know about games that came out in the 1960s, gramps.
Yep. In late January, Sega decided to delay the game until to Fall 2012.
Agent Unknown
Member
All my search results show old news stories from back in January regarding the game being delayed to Fall 2012, nothing about next year so far.
bgassassin
Member
It's a tough one when we don't know the context they are using. Either they meant the third quarter of this year, or they mistakenly used 3Q12 when it should have been 3Q13 to represent Nintendo's FY. Another nice find Rosti.
Hmm. I'm not sure now. I thought the latency as described was an overall measure of time starting from the beginning of the render pipe for the first pixel to the point where the final pixel had been displayed on the controller.
This is just a sign that one coffee is not enough for proper Speculation.
Haha. But it wouldn't be speculation if we knew everything either.
But let's look at Harada's comment.
He talks about the speed of the image transmission from the screen to the controller. To me it sounds like he's comparing the TV image vs the controller. And that he was concerned that what was shown on the controller would be noticeably behind what is shown the TV only to find out that wasn't the case. So my view is that if there's no gameplay on the TV, there's no need to be concerned about the latency as the TV vs controller is what he was applying it to.
They're taking a step in that direction actually.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=37615187&postcount=2376
Smiles and Cries
Member
I find that situation interesting in the end. That age range is strange like that. Sometimes it seems like those that played the NES/SNES/N64 are ones that still play Nintendo systems (along with other systems). As they get older they are likely to introduce their kids or younger siblings if they are young enough to the series they themselves enjoyed as kids and still enjoy now. They themselves are likely to grow up liking or at least not hostile to Nintendo systems. However there is a current group now that would hate for people to think they like anything Nintendo and I really wonder how that even came about. Previously (themselves or their older siblings) in the Genesis camp that jumped to the PS1 and couldn't let go or grow out of the rivalry or made it really personal?
Sometimes it's more then a simple dislike of Nintendo IPs (which is fine).
This is why Nintnedo needs to be careful.
The love and interest for Nintendo IP's and franchises is a "generational" thing. People who grew up with Playstation and Xbox might introduce their kids to sony/ms products. Whereas, people who grew up with Nintendo will introduce their kids to Nintendo.
Nintendo can't rely on older gamer's nostalgia to sell Mario and Zelda every single time.
And they can't assume younger gamers will go for Mario and Zelda when younger gamers flock to Call of Duty, Gears of War, Battlefield, Halo, Metal Gear Solid, or Grand Theft Auto because it makes them feel cooler at elementary school.
We live in a time where kids want to grow up fast and be mature fast.
I'm not sure why this mistake is made, but Nintendo's in FY2012 right now. They name their FY based on when it starts, not when it ends. Go to their investor site if you don't believe me.
GameplayWhore
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Ffffffffyou're right! He's talking about the latency of streaming an already rendered view.
Okay, I'm gonna go get another tea (I did the trifecta of coffee+tea+coke*) so maybe I'll have a clearer mind.
* the black liquid, not the white powder. Pretty much the same thing, though.
lordfroakie
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You know how people keep saying, social games will takeover handhelds and consoles? Welp: http://andriasang.com/con0we/dena_gree_complete_gacha/
Let's see how long these social giants can last.
Let's see how long these social giants can last.
Shadow Hog
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*shrug* I know I was firmly in the Sega camp growing up, and yet jumping ship to Nintendo was an easy choice. I had more of a grudge against Sony than I did Nintendo, at the time. (Considering I own a PS2, a PSP and a PS3 at this point, I think it's fair to say I don't exactly hold the grudge any longer...)
Agent Unknown
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lol Nice. These young men are relatives you should be very proud of.
This. Third-party games like Epic Mickey, GoldenEye and Black Ops Wii even had strong sales during Christmas 2010, while old school Nintendo fans were brought back into the fold by big titles like DKCR, Sin & Punishment, SMG2 etc. At last year's E3, Nintendo should have announced the Wii U was to arrive at the end of 2011, with Xenoblade as the Wii's swansong and Skyward Sword released on both consoles, the motion controls replaced by drawing on the Upad screen, graphics upscaled.
Instead, we've had two years of next to nothing and the only real enthusiasm for a new Nintendo console coming from those hopeful after the 3DS' revival (even though we haven't seen any major third party games announced for it post-launch). A 2011 Wii U release might have clashed slightly with the 3DS in the same year, but the gap would have been about eight months - assuming the traditional November console launch - and it would have allowed Nintendo to spread out their major game releases a little more, rather than cramming a new Mario, Mario Kart and whatnot into the same window by way of apology for the pricing debacle.
maquiladora
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Oh there are some cool kids out there, but they are the minority from my experience anyway. All my young relatives and kids of friends of mine are interested in the 360 and a few with the PS3. Obsessed with the staple diet of Battlefield, CoD, FIFA....
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