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what would make the WiiU your go-to console for multiplatform games?

Kokonoe

Banned
This

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Or this:

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This, or an updated Gamecube controller. Also, if they actually get third party games with out being watered down.
 

zroid

Banned
I don't know, if there are decent new features in the games and/or 1080p on everything, I guess I would opt for Wii U. I don't really care about online and trophies so that stuff is negligible for me, even if Wii U does it well.
 

EloquentM

aka Mannny
I still think that Xbox has placed a good footing in the US and Europe as the hardcore box, while PS3 has placed a good footing in Europe and Japan as the hardcore box as well. It'll be hard to convince people that Wii U will be the go to hardcore game box. Their first mistake was naming it the Wii U, average consumers won't know the difference between this and the Wii, while hardcore gamers will just see it as another Wii, which most don't care for (at least for third party games/multiplatform games)

Brand confusion will probably be a problem (I mean even think back to e3 reactions believing it was just another controller add on). Ultimately though it's up to Nintendo to market it as a successor. Let's also not forget that Nintendo no matter what they say is after the casual market and everyone knows they want to have the same success there that they had with the wii.
 

KillGore

Member
We don't know yet what, if any, crippling bottlenecks those systems will have. What we do know is that Wii U will be highly efficient, like Gamecube.

You're right, we won't know for sure but I'm pretty sure one of the two will be more powerful than the Wii U. If I'm wrong, I'll eat crow, but I've never been so sure about something like this. They would be stupid to have similar specs to their last gen consoles, considering PS and Xbox lack the "originality" of Nintendo games and hardware. Unless MS decides to focus on Kinect 2 and make their next just a bit more powerful but I doubt that. If the gap between consoles and PC gaming gets even larger, more people, like me (console only owner), would abandon console gaming and just go with PC + Wii U


Brand confusion will probably be a problem (I mean even think back to e3 reactions believing it was just another controller add on). Ultimately though it's up to Nintendo to market it as a successor. Let's also not forget that Nintendo no matter what they say is after the casual market and everyone knows they want to have the same success there that they had with the wii.

I agree with you, though it's a shame they don't TRY and risk it, instead of heavily depending on the name. They've made a few gambles and it has worked, but I guess they prefer to gamble but still play a bit safe (keeping the Wii name)
 

Ricky_R

Member
If suddenly MS and Sony got out of the video game industry... And that's even debatable since I would probably quit gaming if Nintendo was my only choice.
 

lednerg

Member
All of the cynicism and all of the hype about the system is ultimately a product of ignorance and pre-conceived notions. We don't know shit at this point about Wii U or the other consoles. Even if we knew the exact specs, we still don't know about the OSs, online plans, 3rd party interest, the prices or the launch dates. High or low specs isn't a guarantee of anything - all of those other cards also have to fall into place, and even then, there are no guarantees. People acting like specs alone are a crystal ball are kidding themselves.

To answer the question: For me, it mostly depends on how 3rd parties choose to take advantage of the controller. That's something I'll definitely be paying attention to at E3.
 

BlackJace

Member
If you're going to criticize people, just do it directly and add something to the discussion on why you think people are wrong.
None of this drive-by high-horse bullshit.

If anyone's on a high horse, its some of the people bashing. Acting as though hardware issues and superficial demands are really the only thing barring you from even looking at a Wii U is the BS.

Some of you just don't like Nintendo. OK. I'd respect you more if you just came out and said it. Hiding behind demands to fill is silly, as even if they fixed them, you would find something else to nark about.
 

Junie12

Member
For the Wii U to become my go-to console they just have to have the best games, that's it really. The controls won't bother me too much if the game I'm playing is awesome.
 

Lothars

Member
If anyone's on a high horse, its some of the people bashing. Acting as though hardware issues and superficial demands are really the only thing barring you from even looking at a Wii U is the BS.

Some of you just don't like Nintendo. OK. I'd respect you more if you just came out and said it. Hiding behind demands to fill is silly, as even if they fixed them, you would find something else to nark about.
I do like Nintendo but I feel they dropped the ball on many things recently including the Wii and I am waiting to see how they handle the Wii-U. If they hit it out of the park great but I will believe it when I see it.
 

sphinx

the piano man
You're right, we won't know for sure but I'm pretty sure one of the two will be more powerful than the Wii U. If I'm wrong, I'll eat crow, but I've never been so sure about something like this. They would be stupid to have similar specs to their last gen consoles, considering PS and Xbox lack the "originality" of Nintendo games and hardware. Unless MS decides to focus on Kinect 2 and make their next just a bit more powerful but I doubt that. If the gap between consoles and PC gaming gets even larger, more people, like me (console only owner), would abandon console gaming and just go with PC + Wii U

why do you think MS won't follow this?

why do everyone here thinks Sony and specially MS will not want to replicate the Wii's success? These guys are here for the money not to please any sort of gamer, hardcore, casual, whatever and bringing "novelty" experiences is at the core of the Wii's success.

I really think Kinect 2 WILL be the xbox 3's biggest feature, more power with a traditional "boring" controller is just too pricey and too risky, I really don't think anyone wants to repeat the PS3 situation, which some claim is the biggest financial catastrophe in the videogame industry in recent history.
 

BlackJace

Member
I do like Nintendo but I feel they dropped the ball on many things recently including the Wii and I am waiting to see how they handle the Wii-U. If they hit it out of the park great but I will believe it when I see it.

I wasn't referring to posters like you haha. Those who feel Nintendo made some missteps are fine. It's just people who act like Nintendo needs to fill "their qualifications" for them to even bat an eye at one of their products are the ones that I have an issue with. They could fill those demands and yet it would still be not enough.
 

KillGore

Member
why do you think MS won't follow this?

why do everyone here thinks Sony and specially MS will not want to replicate the Wii's success? These guys are here for the money not to please any sort of gamer, hardcore, casual, whatever and bringing "novelty" experiences is at the core of the Wii's success.

I really think Kinect 2 WILL be the xbox 3's biggest feature, more power with a traditional "boring" controller is just too pricey and too risky, I really don't think anyone want to repeat the PS3 situation, which some claim is the biggest financial catastrophe in the videogame industry in recent history.

Because Sony could replicate and double Wii's success with PS2, which was nothing like the Wii. Also, because the hardcore gamer is the one that buys that $15 map pack of old maps from previous games, or who buys armor for their horse, or buys expansion packs, not Wii-only gamers (at least not most). The wii was successful at selling hardware and peripherals, but it wasn't so much with third party games (which is the topic).

Also, I would've agreed with you before, about the Kinect thing but the hype has died down, software sells are on the floor, excluding dance games, no one gives a shit about kinect anymore, and everyone, including myself (I'm a kinect owner), have accepted that hardcore games will not work with Kinect. Xbox 3 WILL have kinect and will be able to do everything the 360 does with Kinect, with some new features, but it won't be the main selling point of the system. I much prefer the Wii U's tablet system than a kinect-based one.
 

Epcott

Member
  • More horsepower
  • Solid dev/pub support
  • Analog sticks, not sliders
  • Decent online service

I guess that's about it.
 

Link1110

Member
I've always gone with the system with the best graphics for multiplatforms (snes/n64/GameCube/ps3) I didn't have an Xbox, so went with gc. Bad ports will always get the better port (moral kombat on genesis, mega man anniversary collection on ps2)

So it would need better graphics, all things being equal, one more example of all things not equal, I tended to buy my multiplatforms on ps1 rather than n64 solely because $60 games are a ripoff (also why I didn't play OoT until wind waker came out.)

More organized:
Better graphics, cheaper than other systems, and non crappy ports
 

sphinx

the piano man
Because Sony could replicate and double Wii's success with PS2, which was nothing like the Wii. Also, because the hardcore gamer is the one that buys that $15 map pack of old maps from previous games, or who buys armor for their horse, or buys expansion packs, not Wii-only gamers (at least not most). The wii was successful at selling hardware and peripherals, but it wasn't so much with third party games (which is the topic).

Also, I would've agreed with you before, about the Kinect thing but the hype has died down, software sells are on the floor, excluding dance games, no one gives a shit about kinect anymore, and everyone, including myself (I'm a kinect owner), have accepted that hardcore games will not work with Kinect. Xbox 3 WILL have kinect and will be able to do everything the 360 does with Kinect, with some new features, but it won't be the main selling point of the system. I much prefer the Wii U's tablet system than a kinect-based one.

this is something I can understand.

but everyone here is assuming that the next gen consoles by Microsoft and Sony will be more power/graphics, period. Nothing else, Dualschock 4 for PS4, an slightly improved version of the 360 controller for xbox 3 and slightly better online experiences on both. I thinks that's silly.

Everyone is thinking like "ms/sony understands us, the hardcore, because they think like us and will deliver what we all want", I think that's laughable specially for Microsoft, sure, they want the hardcore, which they already have on board and will not lose as long as halo 4, 5, 6 and 7 are released on their console BUT they want everyone else too on board, the grandma and the 6 year old kid, so they will push whatever gimmicky they come up with just like they tried with kinect.

I don't now what but I am sure that microsoft and sony will not just come up with a better ps3/360, they will try to disrupt the market and who knows if all this hardcore faithfuls will be considered by them.
 

HylianTom

Banned
Some of you just don't like Nintendo. OK. I'd respect you more if you just came out and said it. Hiding behind demands to fill is silly, as even if they fixed them, you would find something else to nark about.

Pretty much. The whole "I'm so neutral" game is so incredibly tiresome and disingenuous. It's okay to have preferences and anti-preferences. Everyone's so scared of being called a fanboy.. hysterical.
 

KillGore

Member
Pretty much. The whole "I'm so neutral" game is so incredibly tiresome and disingenuous. It's okay to have preferences and anti-preferences. Everyone's so scared of being called a fanboy.. hysterical.

Just because we don't agree with some of the things a certain company does, doesn't mean we are fanboys. Is it that hard to believe that companies do fuck up? Nintendo isn't perfect, nor Sony, nor Microsoft. This topic is about Nintendo, right? so why would we point the flaws that Sony and Microsoft have, on a Nintendo topic? Nintendo has fucked up with third parties, no one can deny that. I'm not even sure why people get so offended when someone disagrees with a company's decision, it's not like that company is paying you for advertisement or something.
 
Even if the Wii-U has more horsepower, we could end up with another ps3 situation where its hardly ever utilized outside of first party titles. The more the merrier, but I guess I don't expect it to be utilized if we have a highly popular under powered(in comparison) console in the mix like a 360. Hell, even if the 720 wasn't as strong as the Wii U, would it matter in the end if the game wasn't developed by a Nintendo studio?
 
Assuming its at the power of ps3/360 it would probably have to have significant enhancements to via the Upad or cheaper games.
 

AzaK

Member

I don't find it that funny to be honest. Let's take a look.

- It's looking like it will have really good 3rd party support
- It will be graphically superior to the current gen until about end 2013/2014
- It has essentially all the regular controls and a touch screen controller with gyro, front camera, stylus mic, speaker and NFC. The possibilities these features are phenomenal. Leaps and bounds ahead of ANYTHING this generation (including Wii)
- It will have Nintendo first party titles, which are some of the best in the world
- Day and date digital download of retail titles

If all that the others bring to the table is "more power", I could quite easily skip that. We will have to wait and see.
 

MYE

Member
Pretty much this. I don't like anything Nintendo does. The hardware is obsolete

Considering the pool of IPs and genres nintendo develops games from on home consoles and portables, i always look at posts like these with the most suspicious eyes. Red flags all over the place.

Maybe you didnt word it right? "Anything" seems like an exageration, to say the least...

the 1st party stuff is all recycled stuff from the 80s and the gimmicks get old fast.

Yup. That pretty much seals the deal lol
 

AzaK

Member
Pretty much this. I don't like anything Nintendo does. The hardware is obsolete, the 1st party stuff is all recycled stuff from the 80s and the gimmicks get old fast.

You realise ALL console hardware is pretty much 'obsolete' if you look at it that way?

1st party stuff is all recycled stuff from the 80s

Totally. Mario Bros is identical to Super Mario Galaxy.
 

P90

Member
I don't buy much multiplatform games. It doesn't matter much to me. I'll, most likely, be going WiiU/PS4 next gen. WiiU at launch. PS4 a few years into its lifecycle. Most of my game time will be on handhelds, I will be getting a Vita to complement the 3DS. All in all, multi-platform games will have no affect on me.
 

AgentP

Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
Totally. Mario Bros is identical to Super Mario Galaxy.

It is still a nonsensical character doing nonsensical things with no story. I don't care if it is 2D or 3D.
 
Impossible, since i expect it to have worse graphics and online than PS4 and Nextbox. I'll buy the WiiU near launch and i'll enjoy it for Nintendo games and exclusives.
 

Tashi

343i Lead Esports Producer
Free online service better than XBL would probably be the only thing to make it my choice system.
 
Being that I will only get one console, it would become my multiplatform console of choice if it simply becomes my chosen console. But it won't, because I do not have any desire to play any new Nintendo games.
 
Aliens Colonial Marines and the inevitable Fallout 4 giving you a Pip-Boy in the palm of my hands is more than enough to convince me to buy a Wii U. Add to that superior pointer controls compared to archaic dual analogs for FPS games and you have a sure fire winner. Why on earth would you want a PS4 or 720 after that..?

The touchscreen is also going to be ideal for sports games, inventory handling and acting as a Genesis Scanner (PLEASE Capcom, bring it to RE6!) for Resident Evil 6, great to double as a PDA or tablet for GTA V, great for RTS games and RPGs.

And you'll have a shedload of quality first party titles to add to the mix as well. Anyone deciding not to get a U is going to be missing out on quality gaming imo.
 

smug

Banned
Wow the majority of people here have got to be the most shallow minded fucking sheople I have ever witnessed. It's a fact, Nintendo is pretty guaranteed to swallow both Sony fans (because Sony just isn't cool anymore) and Microsoft (sorry no mature gamer wants to be flailing their arms around with kinect shit) who only cares about their new direction which is MULTIMEDIA (another word for ADVERTISEMENT).

That's just the tip of the iceberg... people here are soooooooo fucking clueless about why Nintendo is eventually going to guarantee you will be buying the Wii U version. Clue #1, it has NOTHING to do with graphics. Wait until you see the shit they are doing with Batman on the Wii U... this alone is going to turn heads and it's only going to be a matter of time when more developers start leveraging what the Wii U has to offer.

Don't even get me started on what Nintendo is going to come out with.. talk about BLOWING UR FUCKING MIND... there is going to be guaranteed MIND FUCK @ E3 this year for Nintendo.. Your mind, your jaw, your "my body is ready" will NOT be ready for this trip! So sit back and smoke some shit, eat some wild shrooms from the mushroom kingdom or drop some acid because your puny fucking brain bout to EXPLODE!
 

SykoTech

Member
Really trying to make a name for yourself there, eh smug?

If the controller and the online is shit, then its not really the best version is it?

No.

Not every game is online. And controller preference is ultimately subjective, so I wouldn't count that as determining the "best version" either.
 

impact

Banned
Better performance than PS360, a competent online network and a trophy/achievement system.



Wow the majority of people here have got to be the most shallow minded fucking sheople I have ever witnessed. It's a fact, Nintendo is pretty guaranteed to swallow both Sony fans (because Sony just isn't cool anymore) and Microsoft (sorry no mature gamer wants to be flailing their arms around with kinect shit) who only cares about their new direction which is MULTIMEDIA (another word for ADVERTISEMENT).

That's just the tip of the iceberg... people here are soooooooo fucking clueless about why Nintendo is eventually going to guarantee you will be buying the Wii U version. Clue #1, it has NOTHING to do with graphics. Wait until you see the shit they are doing with Batman on the Wii U... this alone is going to turn heads and it's only going to be a matter of time when more developers start leveraging what the Wii U has to offer.

Don't even get me started on what Nintendo is going to come out with.. talk about BLOWING UR FUCKING MIND... there is going to be guaranteed MIND FUCK @ E3 this year for Nintendo.. Your mind, your jaw, your "my body is ready" will NOT be ready for this trip! So sit back and smoke some shit, eat some wild shrooms from the mushroom kingdom or drop some acid because your puny fucking brain bout to EXPLODE!
Thanks, I just spit up Sprite on my laptop.
 

Alex

Member
My multi platform console is a PC so there is literally no chance. When I buy a wii u it'll be for a few Nintendo games, like the three Nintendo consoles before it.
 
My multi platform console is a PC so there is literally no chance. When I buy a wii u it'll be for a few Nintendo games, like the three Nintendo consoles before it.

Pretty much this. I buy multi platform games on console when they don't come to PC. Though, if they don't come to PC, then I'll go for WiiU first.
 

LCGeek

formerly sane
1. Has to be worse than pc options including the fact there is no pc option. I can plug just about anything a console uses in to my windows based pc no reason to use consoles as a multiplatform paradise when i have the pc.

2. A worthy input system. I play my console first and foremost based on the controller or inputs I can use. Wiiu works in this area but if devs can't get the control options and customizing right it's an instant no and I rather use a traditional setup.

3. Happens to be the best platform for the title.

Can't think of anything else that governs me when it comes to these titles.
 

DCharlie

Banned
Wow the majority of people here have got to be the most shallow minded fucking sheople I have ever witnessed. It's a fact, Nintendo is pretty guaranteed to swallow both Sony fans (because Sony just isn't cool anymore) and Microsoft (sorry no mature gamer wants to be flailing their arms around with kinect shit) who only cares about their new direction which is MULTIMEDIA (another word for ADVERTISEMENT).

That's just the tip of the iceberg... people here are soooooooo fucking clueless about why Nintendo is eventually going to guarantee you will be buying the Wii U version. Clue #1, it has NOTHING to do with graphics. Wait until you see the shit they are doing with Batman on the Wii U... this alone is going to turn heads and it's only going to be a matter of time when more developers start leveraging what the Wii U has to offer.

Don't even get me started on what Nintendo is going to come out with.. talk about BLOWING UR FUCKING MIND... there is going to be guaranteed MIND FUCK @ E3 this year for Nintendo.. Your mind, your jaw, your "my body is ready" will NOT be ready for this trip! So sit back and smoke some shit, eat some wild shrooms from the mushroom kingdom or drop some acid because your puny fucking brain bout to EXPLODE!

I almost died of deja vu.
 

SykoTech

Member
Are people still trying to pretend that the classic controller (or even GC controller) never happened?

It would be easy to remember if more games supported it.

Instead I'm forced to do some waggle roll in DKCR for some reason rather than of being allowed to use my Gamecube controller.
 

Eric C

Member
Tablet mode for everything. It'd be excellent to boot up my system and play games without specifically needing my monitor/TV. Late night mode. Bathroom mode. Outdoor mode.

That alone would make it better than anything else.

^
This

Tablet mode for all 3rd party games would be a HUGE selling point for me.

Wii games will probably work on the tablet too won't they? Maybe not all games would play well on the tablet screen because of control issues but I think 2D Platformers would play well. That will probably be my preferred way of playing all of the Wii's 2D platformers like NSMBWii, and Rayman Origins.

Wait.... that should work for all Virtual Console games too shouldn't it!
 
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