IamMattFox
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Like I said, he should be able to deduce who it is but nothing in the films has suggested he knows.
And it kind of makes me think less of Gordon because of it. =,(
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And it kind of makes me think less of Gordon because of it. =,(
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Or he simply doesn't want to know. Knowing compromises him. So he doesn't actively even try to deduce who he is. If he wanted to, he could figure it out quick (if he doesn't already know or have his suspicions).
Well I'm bored and was thinking of this earlier today and don't feel like looking it up on Google or searching through the old Dark Knight thread so I'll ask it here...
Gordon getting "shot" at the funeral is one of the most confusing cause and effect scenarios I've ever seen in a movie, yet never really thought about it until now.
Who exactly was in on the fake death plot? Was it just Gordon and Batman? And even so, how did they know all these other things were going to fall in place so they could apprehend the Joker?
Think about this, all of the following had to happen exactly right in order for that scene to pay off where Gordon reveals himself.
- Has to figure Joker was going after the Mayor during the parade
- Has to be the one who dives in front of the shot
- How does he fake his death when the other detective clearly checks on him right then and there and doesn't appear to be in the plot (and wouldn't Gordon be wearing a bullet proof vest which said detective would notice and see he's not dead)?
- How does Gordon and Batman know Harvey will choose to "reveal" that he's Batman and be escorted via SWAT van?
- Why did the SWAT vans decide to take that underground route instead of just going around the firetruck? It didn't look like it was blocking the entire road as they drove past it, but I could be remembering that wrong.
Gordon getting "shot" at the funeral is one of the most confusing cause and effect scenarios I've ever seen in a movie, yet never really thought about it until now.
Who exactly was in on the fake death plot? Was it just Gordon and Batman? And even so, how did they know all these other things were going to fall in place so they could apprehend the Joker?
Think about this, all of the following had to happen exactly right in order for that scene to pay off where Gordon reveals himself.
- Has to figure Joker was going after the Mayor during the parade
- Has to be the one who dives in front of the shot
- How does he fake his death when the other detective clearly checks on him right then and there and doesn't appear to be in the plot (and wouldn't Gordon be wearing a bullet proof vest which said detective would notice and see he's not dead)?
- How does Gordon and Batman know Harvey will choose to "reveal" that he's Batman and be escorted via SWAT van?
- Why did the SWAT vans decide to take that underground route instead of just going around the firetruck? It didn't look like it was blocking the entire road as they drove past it, but I could be remembering that wrong.
Lionel Mandrake
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What comic is this from anyway?
For the first part, I always took Gordon being shot as an accident. He was there, wearing a vest, just because he's cautious. He figures everything out and takes the bullet. They get him medical attention and such, and then it's decided there that he'll "stay dead" for now to protect his family.
IamMattFox
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As it stands now, Gordon hasn't indicated he has any clue who Batman is.
Nolan could throw in a scene like the one in that comic in TDKR but, as it stands now, Gordon hasn't shown that sort of motivation.
Nolan could throw in a scene like the one in that comic in TDKR but, as it stands now, Gordon hasn't shown that sort of motivation.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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That kind of scene would make sense in the TDKR context.
shira
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I think everyone on the police force knew except dumbass other guy in the truck.
Joker intentionally gets captured to get into MCU for Lau.
What comic is this from anyway?
That's from No Man's Land, which TDKR seems to take a lot of influence from.
The first trailer implied that he knows or at least made a connection between Bruce Wayne and Batman.
IamMattFox
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I'm pretty sure he will know in TDKR, but I don't think he's figured it out yet. ;D
Where?
shira
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To be fair those were magic infused nails
She could have damaged superman
bodyofanamerican
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Yeah, I just figured
he was talking to the guy who WAS Batman in that trailer (Bruce in a ski mask like BB)
Kontergurke
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Not sure if this was already posted, but did you see this new college humor skit?
Batman blows his cover.
He wasn't bleeding badly, he got stabbed on the side of the ribs where there isn't really any armor.
Alfred asks him if he's in any pain and Bruce says "No....not really". He just disinfects it.
CosmicGroinPull
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lazybones18
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Going to Henry Ford IMAX later today to see what's the deal with my midnight screening ticket
"Like Tears in the Rain"
Lionel Mandrake
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Surprised they haven't made more use of the chalk sketch in ads.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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Hey at least it's not using a still from a previous film.
shira
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Graphics Horse
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What's with the giant batsymbol lips on the left of that new picture. Attack of the 50ft Catwoman?
He sits quietly in his room sharpening a machete and his muscles just appear.
I think Gordon already knows.
You do know that's Bruce Wayne? (Looking at the text it suggests Bane.)
EDIT: ooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....................
I get it now.
Graphics Horse
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I knew that ninja whose arm Bruce sliced during his final training session with Ra's would come back for vengeance!
Doesn't she target the part of his body that isn't covered in armor...
And he doesn't bleed.
It gets stuck in his costume or something.
shira
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He cuts two ninjas.
From memory, he calls for Alfred to bring him some antiseptic, implying he wants to clean/disinfect a wound.
But this is Burton Batman, so does it matter?
Two Banes.
Weird to see all the "Bane was that cut ninja" talk, when I had my theories of Bane getting stuck in the fire/explosion of the LOS temple, being the reason for the mask. I know it's probably not, but it would give just a little bit more "umph" on the Bane vs. Bruce dynamic.
shira
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ViewtifulJC
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And its just completely pointless bit of connection. It's like when one of the bad guys in Lethal Weapon 2 is revealed to be the one who killed Riggs' wife in the first movie. 90% of the people reading this and have seen both movies don't even remember that detail, because it's that's fuckin' superfluous. Especially because he also kills Riggs' new love interest, so we already got a reason to want Riggs to kick his ass, why that added detail? Why can't Bane just be this awesome Anti-Batman, he's gotta be there since the beginning and shit. Stupid.
Exactly.
I won't be shocked if we see Bane's backstory, but I doubt it will be tied that closely with Bruce's. It cheapens the real connection, which is that they went down different paths and visions of justice, not that Bruce directly physically hurt him.
Nice LW2 reference too.
I won't be shocked if we see Bane's backstory, but I doubt it will be tied that closely with Bruce's. It cheapens the real connection, which is that they went down different paths and visions of justice, not that Bruce directly physically hurt him.
Nice LW2 reference too.
Graphics Horse
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"I'm Gotham's retconning"
triplestation
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Bane was asleep in that pile of hay when Bruce threw the torch.
shira
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So two tumblers for the Bane twins then who's riding the black tank truck?
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