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Pachter: Xbox 720 will launch at $99.99; have cable TV subscription
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REMEMBER CITADEL
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Are there any? If they're becoming more and more prevalent even here in Croatia (well, cable in some parts, IPTV elsewhere), I can't imagine it can be much worse elsewhere.
Just offer it as an option. But seriously, how many teenagers are going to buy a $399 console with their own money?
Well this kind of talk didn't start with Pachter, rumors of the console being capable of replacing your cable box, DVR, etc have been floating around for quite a while now.
I think he is a little off base with regards to it being packaged with a subscription and so on though. At least not as the only option anyway.
I could totally understand them selling the new console for £100 and tying you in to a gold account for 2 years for £X a month.
I'm not sure why everyone seems so anti it, unless it was the only way of owning the device it opens it up to a whole bunch of folk who probably couldn't afford £350-400 off the bat but could swallow a higher cost spread over 2 years.
I'm not sure why everyone seems so anti it, unless it was the only way of owning the device it opens it up to a whole bunch of folk who probably couldn't afford £350-400 off the bat but could swallow a higher cost spread over 2 years.
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
If you only want to play EA, Activision and MGS games, sure.
Teenager? Average age of a gamer is now 32 I think.
That market is archaic and outdated. Consumers want and expect their electronics to do everything and more these days. GAF is the opposite of what the average consumer is, all enthusiast forums online are.
Typhoon_Ex
Member
Only if Xbox720 is NA exclusive
So a 360 for every room where you want to stream to? Seems good, especially with that sweet deal where you can get a 360 with a yearly subscription
unholyrevenger72
Banned
more like 99 dollars down and 99 dollars a year for 10 years
Stiflers Mom
Banned
At least the subscription model sounds legit to me.
People are easy to lure into buying stuff when the upfront cost is low.
And the media center bit is what all electronics companies want to achieve anyway.
People are easy to lure into buying stuff when the upfront cost is low.
And the media center bit is what all electronics companies want to achieve anyway.
WickedCobra03
Member
Yeah, I think it would kill it. I too personally wouldn't be too keen on buying it if it had a subscription to play. I am a very sporadic gamer in that I will play maybe 15-20 hours in a week period, and then not play more than 30-45 minutes a week for a couple of months.
My in and out-ness of my gaming habits is the exact reason why I dropped xbox live. I couldn't spend $60 a year on a basically only multiplayer which I may,or more likely, probably not play.
It isn't? Last time I checked it first was collecting dust in stores and then it sold at a huge loss for Nintendo. What else is a failure if not having to cut the price by 1/3 within three months of launch?
Nealand Liquor
Member
I can't believe people itt are actually reacting to the wild imagining of Patcher. Seems silly and quite odd.
Nealand Liquor
Member
Huh?
So if for some magical & completely unrealistic event that only allows the nextbox to succeed in NA, all of a sudden publishers outside of NA will simply ignore the largest market in the world?
In what alternate reality would this happen?
Edit: sorry for the dp. I assumed someone would have posted in the time it took me to type that last post on my phone, and hit the loo.
Pretending this has even an ounce of truth, Microsoft would run into the obvious problem of lots of people already having cable. They're already in cable contracts, or they've got bundles for phone, internet and cable. Who's going to want to upend their tech services situation at home just to get a damn Xbox?
Sadly it may be something I am not willing to carry on supporting. Much like when the web changed for the masses (MySpace/Facebook) - We will always have different avenues to continue our hobby but this is taking it too far. Still we always have the PC to rely on...wait Metro
So they can trick their parents into buying it and dropping the cable.
Consuming all your entertainment in a single box, single bill
Canis lupus
Member
PS2 released at 499 in Europe and look how that turned out.
This concept makes a lot of sense, basically MS will roll up all your entertainment in one device, one bill. They will probably make some deals with netflix, hulu plus, espn 3 ect.. where you pay the 1 monthly fee and get all that other stuff. No more paying 9.99 to netfilx and 7.99 to hulu, they just make backdoor deals where everyone gets a slice of this one sub. They also strike some more deals with cable companies to put stuff on a streaming service, soon or at the same time its released on cable tv. This could be a proprietary app, or they just roll everything into a single stream app, think MS branding streaming app that just has everything, no more separate hulu app or netflix app ect. The charge something like 60 to 70 a month.
The 720 will have smart glass, so you can just send the streams to a tablet or phone they already showed this off at e3. Also you will be able to hook up 360's via lan to the 720 and stream to there as well.
The 720 will have smart glass, so you can just send the streams to a tablet or phone they already showed this off at e3. Also you will be able to hook up 360's via lan to the 720 and stream to there as well.
Hmmm are you sure it was that price?, it was £299 in the uk i think and there normally isnt such a gap between uk and eu infact when did the euro launch wasnt it 2002 after the launch of ps2?.
Stephen Colbert
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Seeing how much butt ARM and PowerVR are kicking and how cheap they are.
A part of me wants a $199-299 Andriod based PS3 packing a 16 core cortex a15 cpu, 4gbs of fast ram, and 6th generation 16 core PowerVR gpu. Oh and yeah XBMC support!
With a set up like that, Sony could drop the price down to $99 by 2014-2015.
A part of me wants a $199-299 Andriod based PS3 packing a 16 core cortex a15 cpu, 4gbs of fast ram, and 6th generation 16 core PowerVR gpu. Oh and yeah XBMC support!
With a set up like that, Sony could drop the price down to $99 by 2014-2015.
Never mind.
Ban Puncher
Member
Is Nintendo still doomed?
Stealth20k
Banned
according to pachter, forever more.
You could run a DVR through via HDMI in-out, and overlay the Xbox video on top. But you'd still need to have guide data from lots of suppliers across the world, and to record something you'd need to turn the DVR over to the correct channel so now you're fiddling with IR blasters like the Tivo did in the UK originally. Workable but not mass market.
For select companies you could partner, like sling have done with echostar. But thats not scalable globally quickly enough.
In the US there is cablecard and AllVid, but the latter might not be ready in time, and might now have wide support initially. There is also some possibility of MS building in cable tuners for FTA/basic channels but that won't cover what to do with premium content.
For select companies you could partner, like sling have done with echostar. But thats not scalable globally quickly enough.
In the US there is cablecard and AllVid, but the latter might not be ready in time, and might now have wide support initially. There is also some possibility of MS building in cable tuners for FTA/basic channels but that won't cover what to do with premium content.
"Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!"
I can't see this happening anytime soon. MS would have to negotiate contracts with every cable carrier in the U.S., forget about worldwide. Unless we are talking about an IP device, in which case the bandwidth caps ISPs are embracing will kill it.
I can't see this happening anytime soon. MS would have to negotiate contracts with every cable carrier in the U.S., forget about worldwide. Unless we are talking about an IP device, in which case the bandwidth caps ISPs are embracing will kill it.
That's not true at all.
lowrider007
Licorice-flavoured booze?
Aesthetics? you mean the interface?, the ads? the lack of customization?, yeah apart from 'aesthetics' they are the same :-/, imagine turning your PC on and you were forced to see ads and ton of content you don't care about, people would have a melt down, I don't see why it's acceptable just because it's a console sitting under my TV, I don't accept it on my PC and I don't have to accept on my console, at least give us a 'Gamers Mode/Theme' or something.
Also look how people are responding the Metro interface in Win8, there are many people including myself that are against it, I really don't like MS's direction atm, not in the console space or in windows.
I just prefer Sony's current philosophy on this one, I feel they are more in tune with me as a gamer, I'm not saying that they or PS3 is better overall, it just better suits my personal requirements/preferences, in this modern age of customizable devices, smart phones/tablets etc I like to feel I have some sort of control over these devices, I don't feel that with the 360 at all, I don't like being locked in, perhaps it's some form of OCD or something but I need 'some' control least, it's probably one of the reasons why I love Android so much as it gives me that in droves.
Which is fucking stupid as shit. I don't understand why people call it the 720. Why not the 361 or Xbox 3? I think I'm going to call the next Playstation, PS6 since it makes about as much sense as Xbox 720.
We already know the code name is "Durango". Just call it that. When I read any article that has "Xbox 720" in it, the author(s) lose all credibility with me. It might as well be a 10 year old with a laptop writing the article.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Well no, because Little Jimmy's 360 is currently hooked up to the little TV in his bedroom. If the 720 is doing double duty as the family's cable box, than it's in the living room and Little Jimmy has no choice but to get off when someone wants to watch a program.
I'm going to call it Xbox 8 because of the rumors, I know Microsoft won't call the Next Xbox the Xbox 720 because than that would be weird how people found out the name years before and how Microsoft just gave into the name.
Woo-Fu
Banned
I could easily see MS producing a $99 device with a tv-subscription option included. I wouldn't call it cable TV though, since it'd be an Internet streaming service of some type.
What a lot of enthusiasts don't want to hear is that the age of paying a fortune for incremental increases in graphics fidelity is over, at least if you intend to actually make any money in the process. Instead of shooting for the top of the pyramid, shoot for the base.
What a lot of enthusiasts don't want to hear is that the age of paying a fortune for incremental increases in graphics fidelity is over, at least if you intend to actually make any money in the process. Instead of shooting for the top of the pyramid, shoot for the base.
oneils
Member
That is not really what he gets paid for.
CadetMahoney
Member
I think the ppl seriously entertaining Pachter and saying "MS are stupid. . . cable. . . not America etc. def not buying" are worse lol.