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[smbu2000]

I think the fact that WSR is still on the charts while Wii Fit isn't, shows that its a bigger system seller. I know, its bundled, but if Wii Fit was a bigger system seller, wouldn't it be the one thats bundled?


The old format was fine, this feels too short.

If they bundled wii fit with the system they'd also have to bundle the balance board with it as well. That would be more costly and take up more retailer space.
WSR just needs a wii remote plus (which are included) and you can play it.

 

[Aostia]

If they bundled wii fit with the system they'd also have to bundle the balance board with it as well. That would be more costly and take up more retailer space.
WSR just needs a wii remote plus (which are included) and you can play it.

In the west they bundled Wiifit with the BB. Probably they think that it could sell enough in Japan also as a standalone product

But if the topic is: why a new Fit and not a new Sport, I think that the reasons are: exploit the 40+ million balance boards already on the market; don't overlap Land as Family game;demostrate the "play TV-free" element as an interesting one

 

[electroplankton]

How much is Devil Summoner going to sell?

 

[slaughterking]

I just saw that Inazuma Eleven 2 sold 77.000 units during its first six weeks on sale in France alone. Kinda incredible and makes me feel a little better about Level 5.

 

[Road]

sorry to say it but i still hate the new title, can we change it to:

Japanese Sales[MC-Famitsu]: 2012 Jul 02 - Jul 08

or something like that, it's easier to notice

I think "Weekly" maybe in the thread title. I don't know...

 

[Aostia]

I just saw that Inazuma Eleven 2 sold 77.000 units during its first six weeks on sale in France alone. Kinda incredible and makes me feel a little better about Level 5.

It is very strong also in Spain and Italy.
Pal love its Inazuma games! (so happy about Striker coming to Wii next september)

How much is Devil Summoner going to sell?

are you talking about the remake of the old title, right?

Devil Survivor: 106,997
Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey: 136,149
Devil survivor 2: 80,353
Devil Survivor: Overclocked: 40,226 units

I don't know, latest ds-3ds iteration did not outstanding numbers. considering that this one is also a remake, it could end with 50/80k range?


EDITED OVERCLOCKED DATA THANKS TO BRUNO

 

[Kouriozan]

I just saw that Inazuma Eleven 2 sold 77.000 units during its first six weeks on sale in France alone. Kinda incredible and makes me feel a little better about Level 5.

Yup, and I can't wait for Striker in September and IE 3/GO
I'm happy that my country like Inazuma Eleven too, that means we'll get the sequels.

 

[Gianni Merryman]

I think "Weekly" maybe in the thread title. I don't know...

Yeah, the keyword "weekly" should come handy to work with the "search thread" form.

Maybe something along the lines of "Japanese weekly sales [MC-Famitsu] - June 08-15 2012" may do the job.

 

[donny2112]

I think the fact that WSR is still on the charts while Wii Fit isn't, shows that its a bigger system seller.

No, it shows that it's still sold with the system. You keep mixing up the two ideas.

Through December 2009.

I know, its bundled, but if Wii Fit was a bigger system seller, wouldn't it be the one thats bundled?

If they bundled wii fit with the system they'd also have to bundle the balance board with it as well. That would be more costly and take up more retailer space.
WSR just needs a wii remote plus (which are included) and you can play it.

Plus it gets more Wiimote+ into people's hands and is a good introductory game to what the Wiimote+ controller can do just like Wii Sports did with it being bundled outside of Japan.

 

[hiska-kun]

are you talking about the remake of the old title, right?

Devil Survivor: 106,997
Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey: 136,149
Devil survivor 2: 80,353
Devil Survivor: Overclocked: 23,541

I don't know, latest ds-3ds iteration did not outstanding numbers. considering that this one is also a remake, it could end with 50/80k range?

It's a remake, but the game includes the trailer of Shin Megami Tensei IV, so there'll be hype for the game, and add that Atlus is gaining popularity.
Also, with the latest 3DS performance the game may sell above expectations.

I know that it doesn't mean anything, but the game is in the high spots in amazon's ranking one month before it releases.

I expect 80-100k FW and 150k LTD.

 

[squall23]

I just saw that Inazuma Eleven 2 sold 77.000 units during its first six weeks on sale in France alone. Kinda incredible and makes me feel a little better about Level 5.

Let's just hope that this means IE3 will actually be translated instead of being skipped due to Strikers. More people need to experience Inazuma Eleven perfection that is IE3.

 

[Man God]

It is very strong also in Spain and Italy.
Pal love its Inazuma games! (so happy about Striker coming to Wii next september)



are you talking about the remake of the old title, right?

Devil Survivor: 106,997
Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey: 136,149
Devil survivor 2: 80,353
Devil Survivor: Overclocked: 23,541

I don't know, latest ds-3ds iteration did not outstanding numbers. considering that this one is also a remake, it could end with 50/80k range?

A remake of a barely one year old game did only a quarter as much on a brand new platform versus a remake of a nearly 15 year old game on an established platform.

 

[Gianni Merryman]

are you talking about the remake of the old title, right?

Devil Survivor: 106,997
Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey: 136,149
Devil survivor 2: 80,353
Devil Survivor: Overclocked: 23,541

I don't know, latest ds-3ds iteration did not outstanding numbers. considering that this one is also a remake, it could end with 50/80k range?

I don't think you should read too much into those figures with regards to the trends of the series; in my opinion you should put into due consideration how the 3DS's install base has grown to be much bigger than when Overclock released, that IIRC was just last summer, before Star Fox, Mario 3D land, MH3G and Mario kart 7 hit the shelves, and perhaps even before the price drop.

To put it into some perspective, back then the biggest hit was Ocarina of time, whereas now the situation is possibly very different; maybe Overclock couldn't be a system seller, but I reckon it would have sold much better now, on a hand-held with a nearly seven million userbase.

 

[Sammy Samusu]

For the lulz.

http://www.tsutaya.co.jp/rank/game.html

Poor Time Travelers.

EDIT: I should've mentioned this is the irrelvant rank for Tsutaya stores.

 

[Gianni Merryman]

For the lulz.

http://www.tsutaya.co.jp/rank/game.html

Poor Time Travelers.

Top 20 already?!

Nice first week for Taito drum master!

Another thing that's worth noticing, the trinity apparently has slid off top 20 for the first time IIRC.

 

[donny2112]

Top 20 already?!

For one store chain ...

Time Travelers 3DS one rank above Time Travelers Vita. :O

Spoiler

:lol

 

[Takao]

Commercial for PS3 Killer App

 

[grimshawish]

Commercial for PS3 Killer App

Crazy Japanese household right there...Sony trying to scoop up those 360 customers

 

[mujun]

Commercial for PS3 Killer App

What is so good about it? You can stream media (but only to other Sony devices) and record stuff ala Tivo, right?

 

[Takao]

What is so good about it? You can stream media (but only to other Sony devices) and record stuff ala Tivo, right?

It's a better version of a peripheral Sony made that sold 600k in Japan called torne. I believe this new version offers a lot more devices, and more television channel support.

 

[Road]

It's a better version of a peripheral Sony made that sold 600k in Japan called torne. I believe this new version offers a lot more devices, and more television channel support.

Over a million actually.

 

[Tenki]

Commercial for PS3 Killer App

I love japanese commercials. So random lol

 

[walking fiend]

I think "Weekly" maybe in the thread title. I don't know...

We may add the week number, one for MC and one for Famitsu, won't be confusing at all either

 

[Aostia]

Let's just hope that this means IE3 will actually be translated instead of being skipped due to Strikers. More people need to experience Inazuma Eleven perfection that is IE3.

I don't think that PAL land is risking to skip IE3 due to Strikers; the concern should be about Go on 3ds I think; but looking at Nintendo releasing Pokemon on DS at the end of this year, I can totally see Nintendo-Leve5 release IE3 for DS at the beginning of next year.

Then, I hope they can reduce the gap and release Go for 3DS for autumn/Xmas 2013

It's a remake, but the game includes the trailer of Shin Megami Tensei IV, so there'll be hype for the game, and add that Atlus is gaining popularity.
Also, with the latest 3DS performance the game may sell above expectations.

I know that it doesn't mean anything, but the game is in the high spots in amazon's ranking one month before it releases.

I expect 80-100k FW and 150k LTD.

Good point the SMT IV trailer.
But do you think that a remake will sell more than the Devil Survivor spinoff on the glorious DS?

A remake of a barely one year old game did only a quarter as much on a brand new platform versus a remake of a nearly 15 year old game on an established platform.

Me too I think that it will sell way better thant Overclocked. It sold just 23K, I'm expecting 80K more or less for the new game.

I don't think you should read too much into those figures with regards to the trends of the series; in my opinion you should put into due consideration how the 3DS's install base has grown to be much bigger than when Overclock released, that IIRC was just last summer, before Star Fox, Mario 3D land, MH3G and Mario kart 7 hit the shelves, and perhaps even before the price drop.

To put it into some perspective, back then the biggest hit was Ocarina of time, whereas now the situation is possibly very different; maybe Overclock couldn't be a system seller, but I reckon it would have sold much better now, on a hand-held with a nearly seven million userbase.

As previously said, I've just collected the LTD results of the recent portable DS/3DS titles, I was not trying to compare it to Overclocked. Probably I mispelled something in my previous post.
But yet: I'm expecting more or less 80K, way more thatn Overclocked.
I just don't expect too much because also the other titles on DS didn't register outstanding results, and this is a remake/porting and not the brand new entry in the series (as IV will be)

 

[Bruno MB]

According to Media Create the last known LTD sales number for Devil Survivor: Overclocked is 40,226 units.

 

[Aostia]

According to Media Create the last known LTD sales number for Devil Survivor: Overclocked is 40,226 units.

Thanks for the update!
I found those data on Garaph

 

[Gianni Merryman]

Me too I think that it will sell way better thant Overclocked. It sold just 23K, I'm expecting 80K more or less for the new game.




As previously said, I've just collected the LTD results of the recent portable DS/3DS titles, I was not trying to compare it to Overclocked. Probably I mispelled something in my previous post.
But yet: I'm expecting more or less 80K, way more thatn Overclocked.
I just don't expect too much because also the other titles on DS didn't register outstanding results, and this is a remake/porting and not the brand new entry in the series (as IV will be)

Ah, now you - edit: I meant I and not you, sorry - see your reasoning, I agree it will easily outsell Overclock and 80k LTD is in fact a most reasonable predictation imo.

 

[Aostia]

Ah, now you see your reasoning, I agree it will easily outsell Overclock and 80k LTD is in fact a most reasonable predictation imo.

and now that we know thatn Overclocked sold 40K and not only 23K, I'm even more sure that the incoming remake could easily sell similar to devil survivor

 

[lunchwithyuzo]

Some historical Famitsu sales:

[SS] Devil Summoner (Atlus) 355,656
[SS] Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers (Atlus) 258,679
[PS] Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers (Atlus) 137,414
[PSP] Devil Summoner (Atlus) ??? (can't find it?)

 

[Chris1964]

We may add the week number, one for MC and one for Famitsu, won't be confusing at all either

90% of people who read these threads don't know what Media Create of Famitsu are.

 

[Stumpokapow]

90% of people who read these threads don't know what Media Create of Famitsu are.

I agree with you.

I think it would be best served by having standard, clean, and easy to identify information in the title and more exhaustive notes for the diehards elsewhere--either at the bottom of the OP or in a further post in the thread.

 

[hiska-kun]

Good point the SMT IV trailer.
But do you think that a remake will sell more than the Devil Survivor spinoff on the glorious DS?

As previously said, I've just collected the LTD results of the recent portable DS/3DS titles, I was not trying to compare it to Overclocked. Probably I mispelled something in my previous post.
But yet: I'm expecting more or less 80K, way more thatn Overclocked.
I just don't expect too much because also the other titles on DS didn't register outstanding results, and this is a remake/porting and not the brand new entry in the series (as IV will be)

Yes, I think so. I've always thought that Atlus has a larger fanbase on Sony systems. That's why the DS entries didn't sell as good as could be.
But with Monster Hunter now on 3DS, and this new userbase that Nintendo hasn't seen before (at least not in DS) it may sell better.
Like Fire Emblem that has grown compared to the last entry, I expect something similar with Soul Hackers.

Helped with the SMTIV trailer, 80k opening and 150k LTD doesn't seem crazy.

 

[Nekki]

How likely is it that EOIV sustains some sales (say in the 20-30k range) since it seemed to be hard to find. [Edit: Seeing previous entries it is quite likely that it will reach that spot with a 70% drop]

I'm also wondering how much i missed my TT predictions for lol.

 

[Chris1964]

I think it would be best served by having standard, clean, and easy to identify information in the title and more exhaustive notes for the diehards elsewhere--either at the bottom of the OP or in a further post in the thread.

I don't think we could add something more in the OP. It has all the info. Format of thread title is a problem since we lose the count of weeks with both Famitsu and Media Create giving numbers the same day. Next year they will have alligned periods again and adding the number of week won't be a problem.

Famitsu First half top 100 should be at this Famitsu Weekly.

 

[metalslimer]

http://andriasang.com/con1yk/fantasy_life_date/

Fantasy Life date coming next week finally.

 

[vctor182]

Man, it feels weird looking at that Topic Title....guess I'll have to get used to it.
Hoping for EOIV to surpass its predecessors!

 

[Culex]

Sorry guys no chart tomorrow. I'm vacationing in key west.

 

[Stumpokapow]

I don't think we could add something more in the OP. It has all the info. Format of thread title is a problem since we lose the count of weeks with both Famitsu and Media Create giving numbers the same day. Next year they will have alligned periods again and adding the number of week won't be a problem.

Yeah looking at the updated OP (I only saw the original one), I don't really think there's anything else to do. This format for the title is good going forward

 

[matmanx1]

I would be really, really surprised if Devil Summoner sells less than 100k in it's first month on the market. Maybe I'm being too optimistic on it but with Persona 4G's recent success and the upcoming SMT IV I feel like the Devil Summoner remake is in a good spot to catch some folks who like those type of games and are brand aware.

 

[Kazerei]

.

Famitsu First half top 100 should be at this Famitsu Weekly.

Ooh, this will be interesting.

For now here's the PS Vita top 10 (source: Andriasang)

01: Persona 4 The Golden (188,782)
02: Hot Shots Golf 6 (118,985)
03: Uncharted Golden Abyss (89,390)
04: Gravity Daze/Rush (74,785)
05: Dynasty Warriors Next (74,718)
06: Tales of Innocence R (71,463)
07: Lord of Apocalypse (69,162)
08: Ragnarok Odyssey (65,318)
09: Gundam Seed Battle Destiny (55,527)
10: Disgaea 3 Return (54,902)

 

[Takao]

Ooh, this will be interesting.

For now here's the PS Vita top 10 (source: Andriasang)

01: Persona 4 The Golden (188,782)
02: Hot Shots Golf 6 (118,985)
03: Uncharted Golden Abyss (89,390)
04: Gravity Daze/Rush (74,785)
05: Dynasty Warriors Next (74,718)
06: Tales of Innocence R (71,463)
07: Lord of Apocalypse (69,162)
08: Ragnarok Odyssey (65,318)
09: Gundam Seed Battle Destiny (55,527)
10: Disgaea 3 Return (54,902)

Are these sales in 2012 or LTDs? If it's the latter than not so good. Though PSN missing is painting an interesting picture. Toyama said Gravity Rush passed 100k months ago, but Famitsu isn't sayingt hat.

Also: "According to Sinobi's brief summary of Famitsu's feature, Sony Computer Entertainment reps tell Famitsu that sales are going pretty much according to expectation."

I don't believe this.

 

[Stumpokapow]

Ooh, this will be interesting.

For now here's the PS Vita top 10 (source: Andriasang)

01: Persona 4 The Golden (188,782)
02: Hot Shots Golf 6 (118,985)
03: Uncharted Golden Abyss (89,390)
04: Gravity Daze/Rush (74,785)
05: Dynasty Warriors Next (74,718)
06: Tales of Innocence R (71,463)
07: Lord of Apocalypse (69,162)
08: Ragnarok Odyssey (65,318)
09: Gundam Seed Battle Destiny (55,527)
10: Disgaea 3 Return (54,902)

1.08 attach rate from top 10. 3DS has 1.22+ by comparison.

 

[fabfour64xx]

Ooh, this will be interesting.

For now here's the PS Vita top 10 (source: Andriasang)

01: Persona 4 The Golden (188,782)
02: Hot Shots Golf 6 (118,985)
03: Uncharted Golden Abyss (89,390)
04: Gravity Daze/Rush (74,785)
05: Dynasty Warriors Next (74,718)
06: Tales of Innocence R (71,463)
07: Lord of Apocalypse (69,162)
08: Ragnarok Odyssey (65,318)
09: Gundam Seed Battle Destiny (55,527)
10: Disgaea 3 Return (54,902)

Ouch, but to be expected given the Vita's struggles.

 

[Kazerei]

Are these sales in 2012 or LTDs? If it's the latter than not so good. Though PSN missing is painting an interesting picture. Toyama said Gravity Rush passed 100k months ago, but Famitsu isn't sayingt hat.

Also: "According to Sinobi's brief summary of Famitsu's feature, Sony Computer Entertainment reps tell Famitsu that sales are going pretty much according to expectation."

I don't believe this.

LTD would make more sense I think. Launch titles like Hot Shots Golf and Uncharted probably did the bulk of their sales in 2011.

 

[Nekki]

http://andriasang.com/con1yk/fantasy_life_date/

Fantasy Life date coming next week finally.

Whoa, had totally forgotten this game existed lol.

Might it suffer the fate of the L5 curse???

 

[Gradivus]

Are these sales in 2012 or LTDs? If it's the latter than not so good. Though PSN missing is painting an interesting picture. Toyama said Gravity Rush passed 100k months ago, but Famitsu isn't sayingt hat.

Also: "According to Sinobi's brief summary of Famitsu's feature, Sony Computer Entertainment reps tell Famitsu that sales are going pretty much according to expectation."

I don't believe this.

To be expected, can't really see them bad mouthing about their own products at a time like this. Just wonder what the excuse will if they don't hit that 10million sold for next year.

 

[Takao]

To be expected, can't really see them bad mouthing about their own products at a time like this. Just wonder what the excuse will if they don't hit that 10million sold for next year.

I don't think they'll care. Vita failing is far from problem #1 at Sony right now, and any losses taken by it will be dwarfed by the blood sucking TV division, as well as the pains of actually trying with Sony Mobile.

 

[metalslimer]

To be expected, can't really see them bad mouthing about their own products at a time like this. Just wonder what the excuse will be when they don't hit that 10million sold for next year.

Fixed. The excuses will be more interesting if they fail to even hit 6-7 million which is a real possibility.

Vita failing is far from problem #1 at Sony right now.

This is the truth. Sony's #1 priority is to make sure the PS4 launches strong....well maybe the tv division comes first.

 

[Father_Brain]

Also: "According to Sinobi's brief summary of Famitsu's feature, Sony Computer Entertainment reps tell Famitsu that sales are going pretty much according to expectation."

I don't believe this.

No one should, but that's Sony's story and they're sticking to it. At least, until their Q1 earnings release in a couple weeks, when they'll pretty much have to lower their Vita sales forecast for the current FY... right?

Fixed. The excuses will be more interesting if they fail to even hit 6-7 million which is a real possibility.

Even reaching the halfway mark would require a pretty significant turnaround from where sales are at this point, AFAIK (assuming sales of 250K/month worldwide through September, they'd still have to more than double that on average every month in the latter half of the FY). Not impossible, but it's not immediately apparent where those numbers would come from.

 

[metalslimer]

No one should, but that's Sony's story and they're sticking to it. At least, until their Q1 earnings release in a couple weeks, when they'll pretty much have to lower their Vita sales forecast for the current FY... right?

Well if they don't then we'll know they've lost it. I remember them being stubborn with their PS3 forecasts back in the day