ArisenDragon
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Awesome, can't wait to see more of this hopefully at TGS.
Like I said in my earlier post, the titles won't be released close together, eating into each others profits won't be a problem for them
Like I said in my earlier post, the titles won't be released close together, eating into each others profits won't be a problem for them
Doesn't SE want FF to be a yearly franchise now? My guess is FFXIII-3 next year, then Versus in 2014.
If eating each others profits isn't a problem for them.... then why not releasing them close together?
I didn't expect an answer at all. Color me bemused but appreciative that you did take the time to read and answer them. All snarkiness and hyperbole aside, I still think you guys jumped the gun on this one pretty bad and deflecting valid criticisms with "it said rumor!" and "the situation was murky" doesn't inspire much faith in your already questioned standards.I hope I answered your questions, though I get the feeling you don't really care what the answers are.
It's nothing about the believability of the rumour, it's about the source of the rumour. One of three things has happened, they've made it up, which is possible, SE are now lying, and they were right, which is obviously not true, or their source is garbage.I'm surprised at people so hastily calling for a ban on Kotaku.
Obviously, it was dumb of them for posting the rumour, but given how quick a vast amount of people, even here on GAF, were to believe it, and to criticise SE for an unsubstantiated claim such as that, was it really that unreasonable for them to post it in the first place?
Given the reaction to the rumour, I wouldn't have thought it was an unreasonable claim, so why the outrage?
So they can balance their profits and whatnot, and naturally, because Versus XIII would take further development through the rest of the year before it's released
If that really happened then I guess spring 2013 for FFXIII-3 and Spring 2014 for FFversus.
Maybe they will put a demo of Versus with FFXIII-3 to get extra sales.
Wow.Are you fucking kidding me?have you heard of a thing called greed?
No matter how many hits they have they are never enough.The foundation of their site has been built on fake rumours like these and on trolling articles.They would have been stupid to change now,it's what their "fans" expect from them.
And since it works for them they will continue spreading fake rumours about "hot" topics.
I'm guessing your right, but the dates will be earlier.No, that won't happen
My prediction is something along the lines of;
FFXIII-3 revealed at FF anniversary (teaser)
FF Versus XIII re-reveal at TGS, it may have changed name, the media blow out will be big (substantial trailer)
Going into the new year FF XIII-3 has lots of media, it will have a simultaneous release (or near simultaneous) in the summer(2013)e for PS3/360
In the autumn, following the release of XIII-3, Versus XIII media is released leading to a release in the winter for PS3 (May slip in to the new year for the west, but it will be close to Japan release)
XIII-3 media won't necessarily cut into any Versus XIII coverage, SE tend to roll out the full media coverage X months prior to a games release, which would probably fall after XIII-3 is released itself anyway
If that really happened then I guess spring 2013 for FFXIII-3 and Spring 2014 for FFversus.
Maybe they will put a demo of Versus with FFXIII-3 to get extra sales.
It's nothing about the believability of the rumour, it's about the source of the rumour. One of three things has happened, they've made it up, which is possible, SE are now lying, and they were right, which is obviously not true, or their source is garbage.
If it's the first or the third, they're either incompetent, or untrustworthy, in both cases, they're worthless.
I can definitely see this happening. An early demo to help XIII-3 which is surely going to be a massive bomb.
Well on GAF, I would say most people called bullshit straight away, but regardless, I don't think random posters on GAF should be held to the same journalistic standard a media publication should. It doesn't matter what people on GAF think might be true, those people aren't claiming their sources told them.My point is that, people were very quick to believe the rumour and take it as fact, when in fact, it was posted clearly as a rumour, and once proved incorrect, suddenly it's Kotaku who are in the wrong for posting it, when it should be those who chose to take it as the truth.
Hmm yeah FF13-3 might sell less, but it will possibly be the best one yet (of FF13 series) due to their experience and evolving the game.XIII-3 will definitely sell less than XIII-2, unless they've done something radically different with the game, and spend a lot on marketing it. A Versus XIII demo pack in could happen, but I'd say it's more likely we'll see the demo later on in the year, they may even release the TGS demo which is sure to be playable at TGS 2013, for public consumption
XIII-3 will definitely sell less than XIII-2, unless they've done something radically different with the game, and spend a lot on marketing it. A Versus XIII demo pack in could happen, but I'd say it's more likely we'll see the demo later on in the year, they may even release the TGS demo which is sure to be playable at TGS 2013, for public consumption
It doesn't matter what people on GAF think might be true, those people aren't claiming their sources told them.
Except Kagari and one other person right? Unnamed sources again too!
Well on GAF, I would say most people called bullshit straight away, but regardless, I don't think random posters on GAF should be held to the same journalistic standard a media publication should. It doesn't matter what people on GAF think might be true, those people aren't claiming their sources told them.
Calling something a rumor is just a get out of jail free card, they can say whatever the fuck they want, then point to the fact it was listed as a rumor, despite the fact they cite anonymous sources to indicate it as fact.
Well on GAF, I would say most people called bullshit straight away, but regardless, I don't think random posters on GAF should be held to the same journalistic standard a media publication should. It doesn't matter what people on GAF think might be true, those people aren't claiming their sources told them.
Calling something a rumor is just a get out of jail free card, they can say whatever the fuck they want, then point to the fact it was listed as a rumor, despite the fact they cite anonymous sources to indicate it as fact.
It was listed as a rumour, even so in the headline, and the whole piece was a speculation piece based upon what the writer thought were reliable sources, there's absolutely nothing in the article to suggest the writer outright claimed the game was cancelled, they even suggested waiting until after TGS to make such an assumption. So yeah, no reason at all to call for a ban as far as I'm concerned
Kagari and ApZonerunner didn't publish a giant false story about it in a ploy for attention. Try again.Except Kagari and one other person right? Unnamed sources again too!
I don't imagine your sources really appreciate you leaking info anyway. That's one of the reasons why I try to keep my mouth shut lately, personally.Would you rather we didn't share anything we're told ever? I'd like to think our track records hold us up, but if it comes to a choice between exposing a good sources - and friends - and not saying anything, not saying anything is an obvious choice. We never claim that anything we say is 100% confirmed, we just happily relay what we're told.
Kagari and Zonerunner replied saying what Kotku claimed about the game being cancelled contradicted what they were told. They didn't leak any information.I don't imagine your sources really appreciate you leaking info anyway. That's one of the reasons why I try to keep my mouth shut lately, personally.
I don't imagine your sources really appreciate you leaking info anyway. That's one of the reasons why I try to keep my mouth shut lately, personally.
She was quite passive about it, she just said her source heard very differently, and look how it all turned out.Except Kagari and one other person right? Unnamed sources again too!
A rumor means it's from an unverified source, which is exactly what I said, a free pass from any journalistic standard.Except for the fact that a "rumor" is an actual concept. What you're saying implies there are no real, legitimate rumors and there most certainly are.
Again, Kotaku is long, long past the "BS rumors for traffic" stage.
Would you rather we didn't share anything we're told ever? I'd like to think our track records hold us up, but if it comes to a choice between exposing a good sources - and friends - and not saying anything, not saying anything is an obvious choice. We never claim that anything we say is 100% confirmed, we just happily relay what we're told.
Why are you so defensive? I wasn't talking to you, nor was I attacking anyone.Kagari and Zonerunner replied saying what Kotku claimed about the game being cancelled contradicted what they were told. They didn't leak any information.
They certainly didn't make a huge declaration, they didn't put forward information on their own, they did it in reply to the rumor that Kotaku started and fed all over the Internet by posting an inaccurate and ill-advised story.
What part of that is so hard to understand?
When a source has been providing information solidly for several years, I'd like to think they know exactly what I'm going to do with it. They're not stupid. Quite the opposite, in fact.
The sentiment is right, though, and it varies from person to person - there's plenty of people I work with whose off-the-record conversations stay that way. I can't speak for Kagari in this case, but anything I say in public I'm certain - either from past history or from straight-up asking them - that the person who passed me the information is happy with me doing that with it. That's just common sense. If I burned every source I have by betraying trust or pissing them off I wouldn't have any information to begin with.
I don't imagine your sources really appreciate you leaking info anyway. That's one of the reasons why I try to keep my mouth shut lately, personally.
I'm sure I'm not the only one here who'd play the Versus XIII demo MORE than XIII-3 itself. (If a demo ever got bundled with XIII-3, that is.)
This is what actually pissed me off, the rumor I don't care about, it inspired SE to say something about the game at least, it fired up VersusGAF and we've had nothing to talk about for a long time, but to act like Kotaku are victims of SE's ineffective PR is disgusting.
I will laugh if this isn't at TGS.
and then cry
I have been thinking lately its time Square let Nomura go, the guy is a joke. He has damaged thier reputation imo.
Kagari and ApZonerunner didn't publish a giant false story about it in a ploy for attention. Try again.
I don't think the attitude from them is strictly necessary, but, again, I think it's really unfair to suggest they brazenly made this up. Kotaku is a lot of things, and they often post a lot of weird shit, but I don't think they're liars and fakers. They don't need to fabricate stories to build a readership - they have a massive, devoted readership.
I have been thinking lately its time Square let Nomura go, the guy is a joke. He has damaged thier reputation imo.
SE has PR people whose job it is to interface with the media, so SE really should have commented in some way when contacted. Even if all they said was that they didn't have anything to say, it would have been better than not responding.LOL I like how they think they are important enough to "demand" Square Enix's attention, such arrogance.