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Halo 4 Story Spoilers and Speculations

raindoc

Member
I bet that didact will be the enemy in the first installment of the new saga, but the real enemies will be the precursors.

that's what i've been thinking since i've read Primordium:
Chakas/343GS(2) mentioned the "combat eternal" between humanity and the Didact for the first time and in the same breath also mentions that only the Librarian unifies us/could bring us peace and guess for whom he (343GS/Chakas) is heading at the end of the book.
i still believe/hope the Librarian will appear somewhen in the Reclaimer saga and stop the fighting between mankind and the Didact so they can focus an the real Ancient Evil that has it's roots "10 Million years ago in an incredible Act of Barbarity"...

The Greg Bear books introduced the Precursors and - apart from associating them with the Flood - promised their return 100.000 years later, which is "now".
why introduce that backstory of a real inter-galactic/universal threat that is much older than even the FR if they'll use a "side note" (Chakas comments about the Didact) to base the Reclaimer Trilogy's plot upon?

Question: It was pretty clear that the Didact would show up after the E3 Trailer, which included a Cryptum and more importantly: the Didacts symbol - yet 343I said that the Ancient Evil hasn't been introduced yet. I'd like to know if that point still remains (I hope so).
 

Flipyap

Member
why introduce that backstory of a real inter-galactic/universal threat that is much older than even the FR if they'll use a "side note" (Chakas comments about the Didact) to base the Reclaimer Trilogy's plot upon?
I agree with you, but a possible reason could be to fill the gap left by removing any trace of mystery surrounding Forerunners.
Now, once they start revealing what the Precursors were all about, they're going to have to introduce the Predecessors, then the Ancestors, the Forebears, then the Antecedents and...
 

Mindwipe

Member
I really doubt the Didact will be the enemy by the end of Halo 4. He'll ally with the Chief against a greater threat, which will be the Precursors.
 

bananas

Banned
I have a feeling that 343 is leading everyone on with their tagline "An Ancient Evil Awakens."

I believe they're using the Didact as a red herring and the Precursors will end up being the real threat.

Halo: Silentium Spoilers
Greg Bear has stated that there are two Didacts. And the PR for Silentium state that Ur-Didact and the Librarian are the last hope for sentient life in the galaxy. Ur is a german prefix for "original." Suggesting that the original Didact was not executed. The question is, is this Didact, in Halo 4, the original or the Bornstellar-Didact?
 

Vire

Member
I have a feeling that 343 is leading everyone on with their tagline "An Ancient Evil Awakens."

I believe they're using the Didact as a red herring and the Precursors will end up being the real threat.

Halo: Silentium Spoilers
Greg Bear has stated that there are two Didacts. And the PR for Silentium state that Ur-Didact and the Librarian are the last hope for sentient life in the galaxy. Ur is a german prefix for "original." Suggesting that the original Didact was not executed. The question is, is this Didact, in Halo 4, the original or the Bornstellar-Didact?

That's sounds really unnecessarily convoluted and silly.

I hope that's not the route they go in the game.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
I have a feeling that 343 is leading everyone on with their tagline "An Ancient Evil Awakens."

I believe they're using the Didact as a red herring and the Precursors will end up being the real threat.

Halo: Silentium Spoilers
Greg Bear has stated that there are two Didacts. And the PR for Silentium state that Ur-Didact and the Librarian are the last hope for sentient life in the galaxy. Ur is a german prefix for "original." Suggesting that the original Didact was not executed. The question is, is this Didact, in Halo 4, the original or the Bornstellar-Didact?

I may have this wrong, but aren't Humans precursors?

Edit: Yeah, I've got that wrong, it's been a while.
 
Someone needs to do a summary of the books leading up to Halo 4, I still can't keep track of all the stuff going on in the books, and I've read them.
 

Slightly Live

Dirty tag dodger

Hey Mr OXM guy, tell you editor I'm available for freelance work. Cheap rates.

Ok, but will there be another Halo to destroy?

There's a Halo in the main menu of Halo 4.

Almost certain there will be some Halo action at some point.

Halo 4 Animation Leaked? (HD).

Could this scene actually had been real? Since we see someone using telekinesis powers and the fact one guy looks like he wearing the scout helmet.

It has nothing to do with Halo, sorry.
 

raindoc

Member
Ok, but will there be another Halo to destroy?

according to the achievment list there's a level (2nd to last?) called "The Composer".
In Primordium, the Composer is on Installation 07, which also features a desert landscape.
quiet possible we'll go there (while the track "Arrival" plays)
 

wwm0nkey

Member
A Halo important in a Halo game? Dude, contact Kotaku right now.

Well when I asked others about it I got the place holder excuse. Some people also still think it is a place holder for some reason lol

(I mean it is pretty obvious that its not)

Also nice edit lol
 
I don't think I like the idea of a Forerunner figure being the main villain. Seems like that will easily veer into the typical "I used to be an idealist like you but now I use more dubious and extreme methods" antagonist-ing. And that doesn't sound like "an ancient evil," as far as we know none of the Forerunners could be considered that.
 
I think it's the story of why cortana's knees are where her shins should be. A gripping tale.

But in all honesty, probably going to restart the war with the forerunner. Maybe get a glimpse of some stuff that dealt with the precursors and where the flood came from.
 
In simple terms, who are the precursors and who is more of a threat? Precursors or the Forerunners?

Why don't they come to Earth if they have such powerful technology and want to destroy us?
 

wwm0nkey

Member
In simple terms, who are the precursors and who is more of a threat? Precursors or the Forerunners?

Why don't they come to Earth if they have such powerful technology and want to destroy us?

If there are any of them still out there Precursors would probably fuck us up easily if we don't attack first, thats probably the only reason the Forerunners were able to beat them.


Though something horrible the Precursors did created the flood and from the new book description it sounds like they created something else that the flood have allied themselves with.
 
In simple terms, who are the precursors and who is more of a threat? Precursors or the Forerunners?

Why don't they come to Earth if they have such powerful technology and want to destroy us?
Precursors became before Forerunners, one (last?) Precurser was trapped under a planet humans lived on during the Human - Forerunner wars (before modern times).

Precursors are older and far larger problem. Someone who has the Cryptum books in fresher memory can probably elaborate much butter on this.
 

Flipyap

Member
In simple terms, who are the precursors
They're the ones who came before the Forerunners and are said to have created us, the Forerunners and the Flood.

and who is more of a threat? Precursors or the Forerunners?
Assuming there are any left, probably the Precursors, because there's a chance there's more of them hiding in intergalactic space/other galaxies, while as far as we know, there is only one (warrior) Forerunner left, currently in storage. Though a Forerunner has the potential to reunite the Covenant, so... who knows.
But speaking in real world terms, if the Precursors do come back, they will appear in a later sequel, which would naturally make them the bigger, better, more badass threat.

Why don't they come to Earth if they have such powerful technology and want to destroy us?
We don't know what's up with them. They might also be asleep, or waiting for some sort of signal. They're also apparently into giving the lesser races little tests, so maybe they're still trying to decide what to do with what's left in the galaxy.
Or they're actually dead. Would be nice if something could stay dead for once.

Precursors became before Forerunners, one (last?) Precurser was trapped under a planet humans lived on during the Human - Forerunner wars (before modern times).
Kind of, but not really. More like a (possible) mind of a Precursor inside a Gravemind. That whole subplot became so convoluted and ambiguous, I'm just waiting for clarification of how much of what it said was complete bullshit.
 

IHaveIce

Banned
I really hope somehow the Gravemind / Primordial (I know the end of Primordium, but it was hinted that there are more) are back or maybe the Didact is infested with the thoughts of the Primordial I don't know.

But he/ it was my favorite character.

But I have to agree with Ram. The Didact as enemy is not really a surprise, especially after the Anniversary Terminals.

The original flood, the Precursors .. I don't know the Timeless One all of them were more fitting and surprising as the "Ancient Evil"
 

lefantome

Member
precursors looks like the ancient race of Starcraft that created zerg and protoss (I'm not sure it created human too)

In the end humanity,zerg and asari will figh the precursors guided by diablo itself.

I'm ok with the precursors of the precursors for the 200th time but at least I hope they will give them some characterization.
 

Vire

Member
For someone more familiar with the intricacies of the lore - how many years is it between Halo Reach and 4?

Just trying to figure out why Hasley looks so old.
 

Thoraxes

Member
I hope that we see Chakas/343/GS come back to try and fuck up the Librarian with his jacked human ship. I was speculating that the Chief running into INFINITY (EDIT: whoops I fucked up the name)was actually that it was the ship Guilty Spark jacked, because after all, he knows the location of the Librarian and wants to go fuck her up, and my first reaction was that since the Chief runs into it, and the Librarian and Didact are together (well Bornstellar now, but what about the original now that we have no clue if he's alive or not), what better family reunion, you know?

That shit was interesting at the end of novel 2.

Also RE: Cortana; I think Halsey will figure something out. After all, Cortana was created from her mind, so who better to figure out a way to fix her. Also, given the readings of tons of Cortanas, it sounds like she just starts making a shitload of copies of herself, but not in control this time. Also, I can see Cortana fighting the Composer somehow. Would be bad ass! Watch the Composer be able to reverse the process it has been shown to do, LOL.
 
For someone more familiar with the intricacies of the lore - how many years is it between Halo Reach and 4?

Just trying to figure out why Hasley looks so old.

About 5 years, Reach takes place in 2552 and Halo 4 takes place in 2557.

According to the wiki, she was born in 2492.
 

DopeyFish

Not bitter, just unsweetened
Shield worlds, arks and halo facilities are all interconnected

Even in halo 3... The halo in that game wasn't even built and we were on it for a total of one level
 

Vire

Member
About 5 years, Reach takes place during the year 2552 and Halo 4 takes place in 2557.

According to the wiki, she was born in 2492.

Hmmm...

Guess those were a rough five years?

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I don't really like the new design at all (If that is Hasley)
 

Thoraxes

Member
Hmmm...

Guess those were a rough five years?

Halsey.png
uUVH0.png


I don't really like the new design at all (If that is Hasley)

That woman in the picture on the right looks to be African American to me. I think that other woman is probably just an ONI scientist.
 
I still wonder, how come the UNSC never built ships the size of a Covenant Assault ship even after 25 years of being slaughtered.

I know bigger doesn't always mean better but goddamn! When your largest ship (3Km long) doesn't even close to being the size of an Assault carrier, that's fucking embarrassing.
 

Thoraxes

Member
I still wonder, how come the UNSC never built ships the size of a Covenant Assault ship even after 25 years of being slaughtered.

I know bigger doesn't always mean better but goddamn! When your largest ship (3Km long) doesn't even close to being the size of an Assault carrier, that's fucking embarrassing.

I always assumed it was because they never had anything to protect those ships from plasma bombardment with, like the Covenant energy shields. So it'd be a waste to make a bigger, easier target to take out if they're just gonna mount MAC cannons on them.
 

Nilaul

Member
I still wonder, how come the UNSC never built ships the size of a Covenant Assault ship even after 25 years of being slaughtered.

I know bigger doesn't always mean better but goddamn! When your largest ship (3Km long) doesn't even close to being the size of an Assault carrier, that's fucking embarrassing.

Who would had thought the forerunners would suddenly come back from the dead and attack everything like rippers in Mass Effect.
 

darthbob

Member
Regarding the 'spoilers', I feel that every shot in the ViDoc, every frame was picked out, and that there really isn't anything in there that 343 didn't intend for us to see. To have something like that slip and think it was an accident is just pants on head retarded.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
That woman in the picture on the right looks to be African American to me. I think that other woman is probably just an ONI scientist.

I said it before, and I'll say it again, there's no fucking way that's Halsey. 343 is doing amazing things with faces, and that doesn't look like Halsey at all.
 

Biscuits

Member
I said it before, and I'll say it again, there's no fucking way that's Halsey. 343 is doing amazing things with faces, and that doesn't look like Halsey at all.
Well, seeing that Cortana's face has changed a lot already it wouldn't be too strange to see Halsey's face change as well. It's just that the difference is more jarring.
 

Slightly Live

Dirty tag dodger
I said it before, and I'll say it again, there's no fucking way that's Halsey. 343 is doing amazing things with faces, and that doesn't look like Halsey at all.

The quote the next Halo novel.

The Thursday War said:
(Halsey's) grey hair pulled back taut in a pony tail.

This is a description of her appearance, which has changed since the last time we have seen her. It matches the woman in the video who seems to feature prominently in a cutscene with the Chief. The Chief mentions Halsey specifically in one of the cutscenes. We also know Halsey is in the game thanks to an early "leak".

C'mon, stop beating around the bush.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Well, seeing that Cortana's face has changed a lot already it wouldn't be too strange to see Halsey's face change as well. It's just that the difference is more jarring.

Cortana doesn't look THAT much different. That "Halsey" pic looks like a different nationality all together.
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The quote the next Halo novel.



This is a description of her appearance, which has changed since the last time we have seen her. It matches the woman in the video who seems to feature prominently in a cutscene with the Chief. The Chief mentions Halsey specifically in one of the cutscenes. We also know Halsey is in the game thanks to an early "leak".

C'mon, stop beating around the bush.

Yes, but again, it looks nothing like her, eyes, mouth etc. IMO it's likely a different scientist and Halsey shows up somewhere else.
 

Slightly Live

Dirty tag dodger
Updated the OP with more.

Spoilers for Halo The Thursday War (book) which heavily suggest/hint towards Halo 4

Infinity represents more than half the UNSC's Fleet Budget
Tests Infinity's MAC weapon on Ontom (a state/country on the Elite's home world) and destroys it completely
The Elites Civil War used by ONI fleet as a test run for Infinity
Infinity has all UNSC Forerunner technology
Infinity is the most powerful warship since the Forerunner fleet
Infinity has fast precise slipspace jumps
Infinity has additional nuclear weapons
 

IHaveIce

Banned
The quote the next Halo novel.



This is a description of her appearance, which has changed since the last time we have seen her. It matches the woman in the video who seems to feature prominently in a cutscene with the Chief. The Chief mentions Halsey specifically in one of the cutscenes. We also know Halsey is in the game thanks to an early "leak".

C'mon, stop beating around the bush.

It's Parangosky who tells Masterchief that Halsey was charged and got a punishment for the SPARTAN program.

I kid, I think it is Halsey but I don't like the new Design at all

did you read everything from Thursday War what is aviable?


Edit: Ok so Infinity is a little bit overpowered?
 

IHaveIce

Banned
About 1/4 of the book is readable on Amazon.com.

Also added this nugget to the OP,

The Forerunner name for Requiem is Kelekos.

Nice, I think I will wait a bit, but I don't care for being spoiled on this book.


Silentium on the other hand.. damn I wish this one would be released before Halo 4 :(
 
Hmmm...

Guess those were a rough five years?

Halsey.png
uUVH0.png


I don't really like the new design at all (If that is Hasley)

Yeah, Im not liking that if it is a redesign of her.

Updated the OP with more.

Spoilers for Halo The Thursday War (book) which heavily suggest/hint towards Halo 4

Infinity represents more than half the UNSC's Fleet Budget
Tests Infinity's MAC weapon on Ontom (a state/country on the Elite's home world) and destroys it completely
The Elites Civil War used by ONI fleet as a test run for Infinity
Infinity has all UNSC Forerunner technology
Infinity is the most powerful warship since the Forerunner fleet
Infinity has fast precise slipspace jumps
Infinity has additional nuclear weapons

Well, I guess the Storm faction of Elites may be less than a splinter group.. I imagine the Elites not trying to kill humans at that point would be few and far between.

Could you figure out whats going on with the Brutes? While they are obviously rebelling against the Elites how to they stand with humanity?
 
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