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Halo |OT9| One Final Effort Is All That Remains

Deadly Cyclone

Pride of Iowa State
Didn't we all know X was the main enemy? I mean, we've had in-depth discussions on X here in the past few months...



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GhaleonEB

Member
It's not a big spoiler, hah. Everyone pretty much knows who the character is at this point.

Also, use this spoiler thread if you want to help the spoiler-free folks remain that way.

I don't - I think it's one of two characters, based on Cryptum and Primordium, but I'm not sure which it would be.

Still, I generally treat a spoiler as being anything the developer does not want us to know before we play. So I'll read/watch this kind of stuff from 343, trusting that they're not spoiling the game in their eyes. When stuff starts leaking, that's when I'll bail out.

(I haven't watched yet. I will later today.)
 
Now I want to see which type of villain it will be, the generic one who will want to kill humanity because they awaken it or the one who simply do what it wants ignoring the other species because they awaken it.
 
That quote in itself gives me a clear idea of what will be included in the briefing packet, I just don't see where there is any confusion about what you're getting?

The Limited Edition also contains the UNSC Infinity Briefing Packet, which includes an armour customisation schematic, a blueprint of the massive ship itself, and insight into what it means to be one of humanity’s finest warriors: the Spartan-IVs.

That quote tells me nothing at all. What kind of document is it? A artbook? A novel? A poster?

What I want is a one line description of what it actually entails, For example:
  • "A 60 page book written from the perspective of George Washington" - from the Assassins Creed 3 trailer.
  • "The Art of Skyrim' Official Art Book. Featuring over 200 pages of striking, full-color illustrations, sketches and models, this stunning 9 3/8" x 12 1/8" coffee table book showcases the characters, creatures, environments, and weaponry of Skyrim." - Dont know much about Skyrim, but that tells me its a 200 page artbook which is clearly packed with content.
  • "Halseys novel, written by Eric Nylund" - Bungie told us that long before the game came out and it hyped me because it was Halseys journal written from Nylund!

I kid you not even Halo Wars LE description is more informative:

"Hardbound Graphic Novel - An all new graphic novel by Phil Noto, Graeme Devine and Eric Nylund. "Halo Wars: Genesis" Chronicles the first military campaign against the Covenant. The novel concentrates on the Spirit of Fire, a ship on a mission to discover why the Covenant are so interest in the world of Harvest."
- here I know im getting a graphic novel, and I know who the authers are.

So you can see why im not exactly happy with the description we have so far? I just dont know what the Briefing Packet entails and as someone who pretty much filters away the digital content and only looks at the physical content... it would be nice to know more about the physical content.

I think you and Frankie both got the wrong impression earlier. Im not saying that the LE is not worth the price. Im simply saying I cant put a value to it because I dont know enough about the contents. Which is why im hesitant to buy it. A one line description along the lines of:

...and a 30 page dossier giving an insight into what it means to be one of humanity’s finest warriors: the Spartan-IVs, written by Nylund

Would probably be enough to entice me, but right now it could be anything, including just pretty much a poster and a few trinkets. Hell I dont even need to know the auther, just tell me what kind of format the information is displayed in, and if it seems like its meaty enough I will want it.

I hope you're not saying that someone can't both love the franchise and see genuine value in the Ltd Edition? I love the Halo franchise, and I'm a collector of sorts, mostly the Halo-themed consoles and hardware but I also enjoy the Halo Art Books and anything that expands upon the fiction of the universe or how it was developed. The Ltd Edition appeals to me in many ways and it is most certainly not out of pure blind fandom.

First of all... what makes you think I ever said that in regards to the bolded? I am simply asking for more information on the LTD edition so I can make the decision on whether its worth it for me. Again I think you and Frankie are misreading my posts.

Secondly, its pretty clear there are people here who are buying EVERYTHING and said so themselves, Shadders and Stalker are happily doing just that. Thats fine, good for them. Personally I want more information on the product so I can decide if its worth it. As I said there are two types of people who buy limited edition stuff, people who love the franchise and want to collect no matter what and people who see something in the limited edition which intrigues them, of course there is crossover, it would be nonsensical to think there isnt lol. Of course people who love the franchise also see things in the LTD which intrigue them. I personally am the second type of person though, and I see something intriguing but want to know more about it before taking the plunge.

Im not a collector, as you know im also not into digital content or aesthetics such as avatar awards, armours or weapon skins. Thats why I want to know more about what the Briefing packet is, because it could potentially be cool, and I could potentially happily pay the premium for it. I am not going in without making an informed decision though, and unlike You Shadders or Stalker am not a collector. I would be pretty pissed if I missed out on it if its something cool, but I would hate to throw money at a product which may not be deserving of it, so I just wont take the gamble.

I mean, the only other thing in there that for me is worth the value is the map pack pass, but you can buy that separately for less.

I think the difference between me and you Bobs is that I can see clear value in the Limited Edition as a complete package. From conversations we've had, it's clear that the DLC and Digital Content doesn't appeal to you and you've mentioned that you aren't fond of the packaging, so everything seems to be hinging on the briefing packet. I think this is made quite clear by the bolded above. If you can't find value in the overall package then perhaps the Standard Edition + War Games Pass is a better choice and will probably give you more bang for your buck?

The problem is... I dont know enough to know if the Limited edition has value as a complete package. As far as im concerned 343 still needs to make that clear.

Whats the second disk? Whats the Spartan briefing packet? Those two things alone could be enough to make the limited edition a great buy. Im not arguing with you and saying the LTD edition is not worth buying, im simply saying they need to market it properly. It would absolutely suck if there was something really great on that second disk, or if the briefing packet was really interesting, and I missed out because I didnt want to gamble. Seems straightforward to want clarification on these things so I can make a informed purchase.

Again, our perceptions of this must be absolute polar opposites because I genuinely, honestly feel that I can make an informed decision on my purchase choice. I'm not defending 343 or Microsoft, simply stating my honest opinions and thoughts.

Well I know im not alone in wanting information, if you think you have enough information to buy the LE thats absolutely fine, I wont dispute that but personally Ill keep asking for clarification on whats in the LE for myself.
 

Trey

Member
Over, why in your opinion should CQC weapons be removed from the game?

Well I know im not alone in wanting information, if you think you have enough information to buy the LE thats absolutely fine, I wont dispute that but personally Ill keep asking for clarification on whats in the LE for myself.

Fair.
 

Gunnerdude

Neo Member
I don't - I think it's one of two characters, based on Cryptum and Primordium, but I'm not sure which it would be.

Still, I generally treat a spoiler as being anything the developer does not want us to know before we play. So I'll read/watch this kind of stuff from 343, trusting that they're not spoiling the game in their eyes. When stuff starts leaking, that's when I'll bail out.

(I haven't watched yet. I will later today.)

Yea I had Halo 3 spoiled for me by a leak video labeled as MP footage... worst pre launch day for a game I ever had...

 

Overdoziz

Banned
Over, why should CQC weapons be removed from the game?
I don't think they should necessarily be removed, just saying I won't miss 'em. They mostly promote camping behavior and I can't remember ever having a fun fight against one. Too often it boils down to coming around a corner where some dude is sitting with his shotgun/sword/hammer waiting for you and you're dead instantly. Less ammo and no radar would be a big step into the right direction in my opinion. Doubt either of those things will ever happen though.
 

Woorloog

Banned
That quote tells me nothing at all. What kind of document is it? A artbook? A novel? A poster?

Based on the pics, it looks like it has a poster (probably two-sided) and either infocards or booklets.
http://fs.gamespress.com/protected/...fd8617f67dba72/halo4_le_heroshot_pegi_rgb.jpg
Not very substantial, maybe, depends on contents. But not anywhere near Halsey's Journal, i think. Would complement it nicely but...
EDIT http://fs.gamespress.com/protected/...33/a4055ccf07ab9087/halo3_le_spillout_rgb.jpg Clearly a small booklet and infocards.
But yeah, it would be nice to get a proper clarification.
 
Can we keep spoilers away from this thread? I know its 343 released information, but I would rather that stuff stays spoiler tagged.

See, the issue with the spoiler thread is it has spoilers from all sources, not just from official 343 pre-release info. I think its fair game to talk about in here, but I also am gonna use spoiler tags that's for sure.

Also, I think if it were that big of a reveal 343 would not tell us.. I bet we find out pretty early in Halo 4 who/what is our enemy. And for all we know there may very well be bigger things in place and this is just one of them.


Anyways, hype for tonight +1000000
 

Trey

Member
I don't think they should necessarily be removed, just saying I won't miss 'em. They mostly promote camping behavior and I can't remember ever having a fun fight against one. Too often it boils down to coming around a corner where some dude is sitting with his shotgun/sword/hammer waiting for you and you're dead instantly. Less ammo and no radar would be a big step into the right direction in my opinion. Doubt either of those things will ever happen though.

I agree that CQC needs an overhaul. Especially the melee weapons.
 

Beckx

Member
Halo multiplayer has changed. It's no longer about skill, equal starts and ranks. It's an endless series of sloppy battles, fought by BKs and tryhards. Halo multiplayer, and its consuption of time, has become a well-oiled dildo machine. Halo multiplayer has changed. Noobs carry slowdown-imune swords, use Camo. Perks inside their bodies undeservedly enhance their abilities. Hill control. Flag control. Ball control. Map control. Everything is announced with big white text and by a Steitzer on crack. Halo multiplayer has changed. The age of skillful beauty has become the age of convoluted BK bonanza. All in the name of trying to lure in some COD dudebros. And he who controls the playlists terribly, controls our game history. Halo multiplayer has changed.

I for one welcome our new Sword Overlords.

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Just a quick question, but is everyone forgetting that the LE comes with access to all specialization paths? Because to me, that's the main selling point over the Strider and Scanner helmets..

..or does the season pass come with that too? When does the season pass even release anyway?

My logic is that you can either get the Strider and Scanner helmets first and wait for the other Specializations to be unlocked, or you can have all your Specializations unlocked and then wait for all the pre-order bonuses to become available to the public.

Huge fucking SPOILERS:

GTTV Halo 4 Promo- The Villain of Halo 4 revealed

"Frank O’Connor explains Halo 4 is the beginning of more than a new trilogy, and discloses a bit about the series’ new villain."


Bail out now if you don't want to know.

CYBORG SERGEANT JOHNSON IS THE ANCIENT EVIL?! :O
 
My logic is that you can either get the Strider and Scanner helmets first and wait for the other Specializations to be unlocked, or you can have all your Specializations unlocked and then wait for all the pre-order bonuses to become available to the public.

That's how I was looking at it until I realized that the specializations you have access to from the LE are kinda weak. I'll have my preferred loadouts before those specializations even become available to me.

They'll let people have access to those specializations a lot sooner than those helmets IMO. So at this point I'm leaning towards canceling my LE preorder just for standard.
 
I can't stop listening to Master Chief's theme! (titled 117)

This campaign is seriously going to be so good.. I think the quality and cinematography is going to blow so many people away.
 

Lakitu

st5fu
In how many hours from now is the GTTV footage airing?

The campaign looks and sounds great, the only thing bothering me I guess is the FOV.
 
I can't stop listening to Master Chief's theme! (titled 117)

This campaign is seriously going to be so good.. I think the quality and cinematography is going to blow so many people away.

By far the best tune yet out of H4. Love it.
Although the Warthog run music will always be "Master Chief's theme" to me.

Edit: gives off a huge Halo Wars vibe there at the end with the piano.
 

wwm0nkey

Member
Damn I am super conflicted in seeing the villian, I mean I know who it is but damn I am not sure if I want to SEE him just yet.
 

Gui_PT

Member
Look I just want a game that when I lose an encounter, I feel like I lost it fairly

Instead of just screaming and punching my testicles

That's it

That's not too much to ask





My testicles ask for the same
 

broony

Member
Don't know if any other UK guys have had this but I was emailed earlier by amazon uk to say they had tried to take payment for Thursday War but the card had expired. I've changed the order to use a newer card but haven't had another email yet to say payment has gone through.

Basically it looks like amazon uk is shipping Thursday War.
 
Damn I am super conflicted in seeing the villian, I mean I know who it is but damn I am not sure if I want to SEE him just yet.
Considering how the Promethean knights design evolved over time, I'm kindof expected a big meanie face. Gotta be clear about what the big bad is.
 

Gunnerdude

Neo Member
Look I just want a game that when I lose an encounter, I feel like I lost it fairly

Instead of just screaming and punching my testicles

That's it

That's not too much to ask





My testicles ask for the same

You are working to hard. I will be happy to scream and punch your testicles for you! you just enjoy the game :)
 

Blissful

Neo Member
Halo multiplayer has changed. It's no longer about skill, equal starts and ranks. It's an endless series of sloppy battles, fought by BKs and tryhards. Halo multiplayer, and its consuption of time, has become a well-oiled dildo machine. Halo multiplayer has changed. Noobs carry slowdown-imune swords, use Camo. Perks inside their bodies undeservedly enhance their abilities. Hill control. Flag control. Ball control. Map control. Everything is announced with big white text and by a Steitzer on crack. Halo multiplayer has changed. The age of skillful beauty has become the age of convoluted BK bonanza. All in the name of trying to lure in some COD dudebros. And he who controls the playlists terribly, controls our game history. Halo multiplayer has changed.

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heckfu

Banned
Look I just want a game that when I lose an encounter, I feel like I lost it fairly

Instead of just screaming and punching my testicles

That's it

That's not too much to ask





My testicles ask for the same

I think gabo cut his off if you need a new set. You have three testicles, right?


Also, what if
the didact
ISN'T the ancient evil? What if there is a whole different enemy that hasn't even been teased at that they are keeping close to the chest?
 

Talents

Banned
I think gabo cut his off if you need a new set. You have three testicles, right?


Also, what if
the didact
ISN'T the ancient evil? What if there is a whole different enemy that hasn't even been teased at that they aren't keeping close to the chest?

That's what I think tbh. I don't think
the didact
is the ancient evil. I think it's something else.
 

Droid

Member
With the news embargo ending tomorrow, we better get some actual multiplayer news, I'm getting sick of these wishy-washy responses from 343.
 

TheOddOne

Member
I think Gabo stabbed his and Overdoziz cut of his balls.

Is HaloGAF masochistic or something?
By gutting balls we make a point clear to 343i. We care about it so much that we prevent children to be born in a world where you can run with a sword freely without consequences or you can't drop the flag.
Whoa, I went all dark there for second
.
 
My theory: SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS DON'T CLICK THIS IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE SPOILED MOTHERFUCKER
Didact
shows up, seems like he may be evil, you guys may get into one or two skirmishes, but then something happens that pits you two as friendly rivals or even teammates.
Didact
dies during the course of the story at some point fighting the Ancient Evil and is revived in (MORE SPOILERS)
his Ur-Didact form
, immensely more powerful.
 

Defect

Member
I think gabo cut his off if you need a new set. You have three testicles, right?


Also, what if
the didact
ISN'T the ancient evil? What if there is a whole different enemy that hasn't even been teased at that they are keeping close to the chest?

Second disk is Ancient Evil.
 

feel

Member
People who know who/what that is have already guessed what it is behind the spoilers.

The rest of us don't even know who/what that is so we don't care.

It's not a leak that 343i doesn't want out.

Stop covering it.
 
Much better. It's less beacuse of the wub wub, and more because I want to hear what the game sounds like, and I couldn't really make those out in the prior video. Weapon sounds are a mixed bag overall, but I love some of the new ones. The gravity hammer and beam rifle sound great.

Beam rifle is the only that didn't sound great in that video to me, lost that 'knife edge' lethality sound it had in 3.

Maybe direct sound is better.
 
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