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Rumor: Wii U final specs
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Eteric Rice
Member
I'm going to be kind of annoyed if they're using Broadway again. I mean Christ, really?
The biggest shame right now is that there's isn't a game announced/shown that takes full use of the Wii-U graphics hardware seemingly?
I have a feeling that whatever title that displays that will not release before the new PlayStation and Xbox become available (and we know Sony have heaps of their studios working on titles already).
I have a feeling that whatever title that displays that will not release before the new PlayStation and Xbox become available (and we know Sony have heaps of their studios working on titles already).
An enhanced, up-clocked, three-core Broadway. Maybe, nothing's been confirmed other than 3-cores.
Why? Do you know exactly what that would imply?
And they aren't using 'Broadway' again. They may be using an enhanced version of the core, made into a tri-core. To make a 3 core broadway and put the clocks anywhere over 1ghz would require much customisation.
shinra-bansho
Member
It does use "Watson tech"... eDRAM.
GODDAMN IT.
Granted, the CPU should still be a beast (relative to current gen.), but not being Power 7 based is kind of a letdown.
specialguy
Banned
Yeah, I totally agree this is a big problem.
It's likely by the time anything begins to tap the Wii U hardware, it just wont matter anymore, as machines 3 times or more as powerful will be upon us.
Nothing has been shown so far that looks above PS360 level, and more or less anything coming out in the next year would probably have to be shown by now.
I think if Nintendo had planned better, they could have had 4 or 5 hot looking, not possible on PS360, hardcore titles lined up for launch and beyond.
IMO it wouldn't have altered the long term grim future of the console anyway, but it would have garnered them a few more year one sales.
Except the console will probably be supply limited the first few months anyway, by which time the PS4/720 demos and previews will already be coming and everybody will hold of on Wii U, so disregard everything I just said LOL. It doesn't matter.
JordanN
Banned
I should of emphasized the processor before technology. I doubt edram can do the same work as a CPU can.
Wait, this makes no sense.
Forgive me if I may be wrong (and let me preface by once again pointing out that I don't know dick about them fancy computer doodads), but considering Wii-U has double the amount of RAM than the PS360, shouldn't the CPU also be more powerful in order to take advantage of all that extra RAM?
From my (very) limited understanding, Nintendo are trying to offload as much of the CPU processes as they can, either onto dedicated cards (audio) or onto the GPU.
So, in theory, the CPU can be weaker than previous gens, because it isn't going to be doing that much.
Look, has the ancient history Wii taught you anything about software being the driver of hardware? You and I may froth over bokeh DOF approximations, but the mass market will be driven by software. If Nintendo has that software (obviously seamlessly integrated into their new interface) is still out on verdict, but that's the same place all 3 consoles stand irrespective to their hardware power at the moment. Consoles aren't purchased on tech demos and promises, they are purchased because people want to play games that interest them.
Thrillhouse
Member
I feel like history is repeating itself. This is exactly what the discussion was like when the wii was released. "No game makes full use of the wii, surely we will se games that blow GC/xbox out of the water when someone pushes it". Now that never happend did it? If Wii-U has superior capabilities over PS360 we would have seen it already. It's not like every developer out there, including Nintendo, sucks.
LOL.
Three things.
1) Why hasn't this video been mentioned before?
2) Why is this entitled "Wii U GPU"? There's no mention of the Wii U at all!
3) Checking out the specs for that particular GPU, this thing's a goddamned juggernaut that utterly rapes (legitimate rape, even!) Xenos. It's ten times more powerful. No way in hell that's gonna be in the Wii-U given all the other information we know.
specialguy
Banned
I dont think the odds of a Nintendo system surviving in the core gaming space without a Wii-esque hook are very good.
Gamecube didn't even do well, and it was at least technically competent for it's generation. That was proof Nintendo's belated IP's dont cut it by themselves (in the core space).
So it requires the Gamepad 2nd display to catch on, which nobody seems to think it will.
I actually think the Gamecube is why Nintendo has never been the same since. In their eyes, going down the strong hardware traditional path is a dead end for them.
My opinion is if you are a Nintendo fan, hope the Wii U fails fast and hard, so that it's clearly dead by say 2014, and then hope Nintendo wakes up and comes back strong. I think the first part is covered. the 2nd? More difficult.
If I was a Nintendo fan that's the silver lining of Wii U. It wont meander along and do "ok", like the PSP for example all those years, it will flame and crash horribly. At that point Nintendo will have to do some soul searching.
All imo etc etc disclaimer etc.
Bookmarked for 5 years time
I don't think either of us were measuring mass market appeal. Just personal appeal. The Wii-U will (seemingly) graphically never have it's time in the light before the next wave of consoles arrives.
Outside of 1st party studios working on big AAA games (the next Zelda, the next 3D Mario) it would seem pointless to sweat and dig into the Nintendo machine architecture with two other quite dramatically more powerful consoles available.
Brad Grenz
Member
One does not imply the other.
DaSorcerer7
Member
I guess you must have missed (conveniently left out) the fact that Nintendo has only shown software releasing through March. As for grim future, we'll see, if Ms and/ or Sony think that they can just trot out a 450 dollar piece of hardware with just better graphics and expect not to fail horribly then many people will be in for a nasty, rude awakening. They can have all the bloated, homogenized AAA western titles that they want, i'd wager quite a bit that by this time next year it will be clear to anyone that likes to play Japanese games more than Western games will need to have a Wii-U to satisfy their gaming needs (if they aren't handheld people).
People for the most part aren't even actually discerning enough to tell the difference between graphics of games before they are very obvious, the Wii U is fine, games this gen are beautiful, and the Wii-U will eventually be essentially the optimization and realization of 360/PS3, which is more than enough for the vast majority of consumers, who do not make thir purchases on the h4rDc0r3 gr4ph1x, and I'd bet that Nintendo will get far more support from mid tier Japanese developers than PS4 will. Nintendo games in HD plus better 3rd party support than the Wii is very much a winning proposition for many people.
Registers on the GPU. blu can probably answer this better since he is way way better versed in graphics terminology, but I've only ever heard that term used when discussing GPU compute.
Bookmarked for posterity, you are going to look like a fool. (Moreso) Gamecube had a host of other problems, and even then, it was still profitable, and had tons of great games. However, I will bet you literally anything (that matters in the context of an online gaming forum that is kept insulated to it's sphere) That the Wii-U will sell not just more, but significantly more than the Gamecube. I for one, as a hardcore nintendo fan, am not distressed in the least to see Nintendo releasing a system on the level of Wii-U, current gen graphics are amazing, more than enough if it means running the industry into the ground and alienating mid-tier and smaller developers or homogenizing the design of games because of the economic impetus to employ boring middleware like Unreal. I'll laugh all the way to the bank with Nintendo's consistently amazing first party games, and a plethora of Interesting, quirky, and innovative games from studios that aren't stupid enough to pretend they are movie studios and keep pushing a ludicrous business model off of a fiscal cliff just because their "hardcore" sensibilities override their common sense.
Haha, OK, I won't demand it then
That 576GFLOPS was what you were thinking it's be though right? Are you still thinking this is the floppage?
What the hell is a GPR?
And I think they wait with these titles until Sony and MS show their stuff. I expect them to counter the E3 next gen announcements with top software.
Ground Penetrating Radars
Godzilla Pikmin Renderer
DaSorcerer7
Member
Not really, the Wii-U is going to be sales leader when the other consoles unleash, why wouldn't they want the game to look at least presentable/respectable on the console that is going to be reaching the largest potential audience from day one? Did you not play MHtri? What about last story? What about DQswords? The Wii is likely to dominate Japan, has a traditional control scheme in addition to its innovational features, and provides smaller studios an opportunity to make a beautiful game without going bankrupt. It will have plenty of pretty games.
The Wii U will be even better then the PS3 was at coordinating national defense.
GrotesqueBeauty
Banned
The Wii U is Jet Jaguar? Man, now I regret not pre-ordering.
The big G had to step in to save JJ's ass, at least that's how I remember it.
GrotesqueBeauty
Banned
Well, in the movie, maybe. I'm talking about really real life though.
edit:
Godzilla = GPU
Jet Jaguar = CPU
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- General purpose registers (GPRs) can store both data and addresses, i.e., they are combined Data/Address registers.
These are memory units (sorry if the word "unit" sounds wrong in that case), that are fairly expensive, right ? Also they are very quick, quicker than all other types of memory.
Many GPR ---> costs and speed of execution increased.
Ok, that e6760 letter from AMD doing the rounds is almost 100% bs. But imagine it wasn't and the guy had genuinely got that answer from AMD? Lol. All this painstaking speculation for 2 years, combing through the hints and rumours, working out possibilities and arguing over TDPs, and some guy just goes and says.
"hey AMD! What's in the Wii U?"
"e6760. Have a nice day"
"cool, thanks bro. Laters!"
I'd lol & possibly rofl.
"hey AMD! What's in the Wii U?"
"e6760. Have a nice day
""cool, thanks bro. Laters!"
I'd lol & possibly rofl.
I've said too much already.
Thanks but yeah, too many hints haha
Edit: Something about Godzilla
Edit 2: Those should be the specs, so a Radeon 5970?
So something along those lines then?John Blain said:
Edit 3: Nope with what Matt has said so far.
I trust that you've seen some documentation Matt, Im just unsure about your conclusions. No offense but you did confuse CPU instructions with instructions per clock earlier.
MadeInBeats
Banned
Oh man, I hope the next Nintendo console has Godzilla based code names... so cool!!!
OK.
Thrillhouse
Member
DragonSworne
Banned
It seems like there is still a lot they don't know yet about the PS3 given how crappy their games look. Lol
MadeInBeats
Banned
That stings. Ouch.