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Wii U Thread - Now in HD!

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Thraktor

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Has Nintendo stated that you can install games onto an external HDD? If this is USB 2.0, isn't that going to have serious loading problems? It wasn't an issue with SD cards on the Wii or DS since the games are small. But if you download a 5 GB game for the Wii, aren't the loading times going to be very poor going through a USB cable? I'm not even sure if they are only going to allow media via USB.

Real-world USB2 speeds are about 30MB/s, the Wii U's optical drive reads at 22.5MB/s, so you might even get slightly faster loading speeds from a USB hard-drive, although the difference between the two probably won't be noticeable.
 
Mass Effect 3 on WiiU was going to sell like shit anyway. Nobody unfamiliar with the franchise would have bought it and most people who already played it don't want to do so again.

The EA games people will be interested in buying are the sports titles. That's the test that really matters. I don't want the WiiU FIFA to end up like the Vita versions.


You might have attracted new fans though if you offered all 3 in one package, like they're doing on PCPS360. To not include Wii-U in that, and THEN on top of it charge 60 bucks for just ME3. That's really really stupid.
 
The Norwegian thread has me thinking...

Beyond Good and Evil 2 has been in need of a publisher for a while...

Nintendo has decided that they really like publishing fan-favorite-yet-stalled games...

I really REALLY hope nintendo at least made them an offer...
 

Effect

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Does anyone think there could be anything in this? http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/631516-/63629803

It mentions ME Trilogy...

I agree as a business it wouldn't make sense for EA to be petty however EA does a lot of things that don't make sense. In the end I don't put it past them. I always felt there had to be some truth in what was suggested when that rumor was originally posted. Something happen between EA and Nintendo to cause EA to drastically change their tune and we know how hard they've been pushing Origin. Now a trilogy and DA3 could have simply been guesses at the time but since then we've had the announcement of both. I don't know.
 

Hoodbury

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EA couldn't possibly be that petty. I'd agree with EatChildren, they're not specifically trying to screw over Nintendo, they're just stupid.

Different teams/studios doing the different versions but still all under the same EA umbrella. There probably isn't any communication and it's likely the team porting the WiiU version didn't even know about the other studio making the trilogy.

Could be different higher ups at EA corporate as well that OK'd each version and they didn't talk to each other either. There is so much disconnect in big companies where different departments let alone different offsite studios don't talk to other ones.

People have their own responsibilities and they just do what their told with blinders on. You can't have water cooler chats when you're not even in the same state or country as the other team members.
 
Real-world USB2 speeds are about 30MB/s, the Wii U's optical drive reads at 22.5MB/s, so you might even get slightly faster loading speeds from a USB hard-drive, although the difference between the two probably won't be noticeable.

The Wii U's optical drive has already been revealed? Well my other question still remains. Have they said they will let you install games onto an HDD? That seems risky since people could potentially pirate and hack the games that way. Hope they do let customers do it though.
 

bud23

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The Norwegian thread has me thinking...

Beyond Good and Evil 2 has been in need of a publisher for a while...

Nintendo has decided that they really like publishing fan-favorite-yet-stalled games...

I really REALLY hope nintendo at least made them an offer...

No way.

Michel Ancel has reignited hope for Beyond Good & Evil 2, claiming that it is definitely still in production, but that it will not be coming to Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3. Instead, it's pointed at the next generation of consoles.

"I can say that it’s a very ambitious game and we need some tech to achieve that ambition. We focus on the game. We create it first, then we’ll see what can run it. We don’t say 2013 because we don’t know when it will come. We’re working to create a great game and it needs more tech."


Ancel has said in the past not to expect the game this generation

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=472889
 

donny2112

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Have they said they will let you install games onto an HDD?

Only games that you've bought digitally. Don't know if they'd do a hybrid approach like Microsoft and let you install and play off the HDD as long as the disk is in the drive, but right now, we only know of digitally purchased games being able to be installed to the console.
 
Only games that you've bought digitally. Don't know if they'd do a hybrid approach like Microsoft and let you install and play off the HDD as long as the disk is in the drive, but right now, we only know of digitally purchased games being able to be installed to the console.

Sorry, that sounds like you are saying two different things. Will digitally purchased content be able to be stored on an external HDD?
 

mgcastro

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To me it sounds more like EA had to put something quickly on the Wii U, so they just ported ME3.

Maybe it was easier to put the 3 games in one box for PS360 than into Wii U, you know, implementing dual screen futures, etc, etc.
 

donny2112

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Will digitally purchased content be able to be stored on an external HDD?

Yes.

Edit:
On the Microsoft part, Microsoft introduced a system update a few years ago that allowed you to install a game to the 360 HDD, but you could only play that game if the disk was still in the drive. The game would just periodically check to make sure the disk was still there while playing. This allowed the lesser loading times of playing from the HDD while preventing people from buying a game, installing it, and then returning the game. They made you keep the disk to play the game. Nintendo hasn't announced anything like that, but that would be a means to install a game to the HDD that you purchased from retail.

Digitally purchased Wii U games can definitely be installed to an external HDD, though.
 

Earendil

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Why ? Is it because of the people that are telling anyone who's complaining to just buy a 360/PS3 as if that was a valid reason not to be pissed ?

Yes. If they have so much disposable income, they can buy consoles for everyone in the thread who doesn't already have one.
 
Why ? Is it because of the people that are telling anyone who's complaining to just buy a 360/PS3 as if that was a valid reason not to be pissed ?

It is a valid reason though, its the same as Bayonetta 2, if you want it buy the machine, if the single game (or in this case trilogy) isn't enough to justify the purchase then wait a few years & buy the other consoles cheaply.
 

chris3116

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There were rumors a while back that EA and Nintendo had a falling out over online. I have seen nothing development-wise that conflicts with that.

I read somewhere that EA wanted to bring Origin on Wii U. Then Nintendo said no and the reason was because Origin would be the exclusive service on Wii U. The eShop would be a form of Origin. I don't know if it's a rumor that you heard.

As for me, EA is still dead. I'm not going to buy anything from them except Sim City unless it's an Origin exclusive.
 
It's not (just) a matter of money, it's a matter of principle.

Just think about it like this, EA don't want your money(or they think you deserve less for your money because you bought a Nintendo device), Activision & Ubisoft do.

For me, it's just a matter of money.

I can understand that (I can't afford to replace my 360 at the moment), but I can imagine that the 360 will have a similar tail to the PS2, so one day it should be at a price where it is in the bracket of a impulse buy.
 

Kjellson

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I kinda wish the ME Trilogy came on the Wii U. I've always wanted to play the Mass Effect games but couldn't because I wanted to play the first one, but I don't have a 360, and I'd like to support 3rd parties on the Wii U.
 

PhantomR

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Just think about it like this, EA don't want your money(or they think you deserve less for your money because you bought a Nintendo device), Activision & Ubisoft do.

Yup.


Just like I mentioned in the other thread, I'm switching the money I was going to be using for Mass Effect 3, for Assassin's Creed 3 instead. Between this, Rayman Legends, and ZombiU, Ubisoft will be getting my hard-earned money this holiday.


Same goes for Activision with Black Ops 2 and 007 Legends.
 

PhantomR

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I kinda wish the ME Trilogy came on the Wii U. I've always wanted to play the Mass Effect games but couldn't because I wanted to play the first one, but I don't have a 360, and I'd like to support 3rd parties on the Wii U.

I actually have a 360, but I was incredibly pumped about Mass Effect 3 for WiiU for the same reason you just mentioned. I wanted to play this game on my NINTENDO system. I wanted to play these types of games on my Nintendo hardware. lol EA.
 

bud23

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you realise, that the WiiU is more powerful than current gen systems?

Yeah,but not enough for Ubisoft plans with this game imo.
I hope to see this game on Wii U, but honestly I can´t see it.

I read somewhere, that Ancel is looking into the WiiU, if it could make his vision (beside the PS4/720) of BGE2 true

I think you are implying other thing.

Ancel stated that the Wii U has "almost no limitations with memory", which means that 2D games are perfect for the console.

http://www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/41644/wii-u-specs-praised-by-the-creator-of-rayman/
 

Linkhero1

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I kinda wish the ME Trilogy came on the Wii U. I've always wanted to play the Mass Effect games but couldn't because I wanted to play the first one, but I don't have a 360, and I'd like to support 3rd parties on the Wii U.

Although I have the first two already, it would have been nice to get the Trilogy on the Wii U. EA's a fucking joke.
 

donny2112

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Just think about it like this, EA don't want your money(or they think you deserve less for your money because you bought a Nintendo device),

Example: NBA Jam Wii. $50 game on Wii. Freebie with NBA Elite, until Elite got killed, and then became a $15 download on XBLA/PSN.

Just what came to mind, when you mentioned that. :p

Just like I mentioned in the other thread, I'm switching the money I was going to be using for Mass Effect 3, for Assassin's Creed 3 instead.

Have you played AC before? If not, hope you really enjoy it. Hope Ubisoft eventually brings the AC2 trilogy to Wii U, too. Either as separate downloads or as a port of the Ezio trilogy from PS3. As has been said in other AC threads (and by ShockingAlberto in the Ezio thread), you can easily get burned out playing them back-to-back, but if you give yourself a few months gap between games, they can be really, really fun. :)
 

AzaK

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Well this ME news sounds weird. I haven't played any and was going to pick up 3 on Wii U. But given I may have a 360 to borrow indefinitely soon, I may look at a trilogy if the draw of offscreen play doesn't win out.

EA couldn't possibly be that petty. I'd agree with EatChildren, they're not specifically trying to screw over Nintendo, they're just stupid.
None of us really know, but something happened between E3 11 and now because the relationship between Nintendo and EA has definitely changed. If its going very sour, why wouldn't a publisher do a bit of a fuck you. As EC said, they don't care. Whereever they can make money they'll take it.
 
Example: NBA Jam Wii. $50 game on Wii. Freebie with NBA Elite, until Elite got killed, and then became a $15 download on XBLA/PSN.

Just what came to mind, when you mentioned that. :p

To be fair I think that the Wii version had a better single player mode, but yeah it's pretty easy to find examples of it over the last few years.
 
kamiya + miyamoto
Nuke2.JPG
Kamiya+Miyamato is like crossing a hurricane and an earthquake. They are gonna leave a trail of destruction in their wake the likes of which Nintendo employees have never seen. Overturned tables as far as the eye can see.

and it will be awesome
 

D-e-f-

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The Norwegian thread has me thinking...

Beyond Good and Evil 2 has been in need of a publisher for a while...

Nintendo has decided that they really like publishing fan-favorite-yet-stalled games...

I really REALLY hope nintendo at least made them an offer...

BGE2 is not looking for a publisher. It's an internally developed project from Ubisoft. This is not some independent studio making games for various publishers.

Don't get any crazy ideas.
 
Ancel confirmed several times that they're working on the game with a very small team on the side.

Last time I saw a quote it was still in pre-production & wasn't definitely going to be made (I remember something about "people should buy Rayman Legends if the want to see more BG&E), hopefully the DD version sold well & it will be made.
 
Ancel confirmed several times that they're working on the game with a very small team on the side.
yes, a very small team on the side because its not being funded by the publisher. If Nintendo made the offer, I doubt Ubisoft would refuse considering they're in no hurry to fund it.
 

Linkhero1

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yes, a very small team on the side because its not being funded by the publisher. If Nintendo made the offer, I doubt Ubisoft would refuse considering they're in no hurry to fund it.

Small team because he doesn't plan on releasing it on 360/PS3. It's probably still in early development anyways. Don't get your hopes up thinking Ubisoft wouldn't publish this game.
 
Small team because he doesn't plan on releasing it on 360/PS3. It's probably still in early development anyways. Don't get your hopes up thinking Ubisoft wouldn't publish this game.

I you misunderstand me, I'm not getting my hopes up at all. I'm just saying it's possible, not that it will happen. IIRC, the very interview that d-e-f- is refering to was the one that Ancel spoke about getting green-lit by a publisher.
 

Thraktor

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There were rumors a while back that EA and Nintendo had a falling out over online. I have seen nothing development-wise that conflicts with that.

Heard anything which supports it?

Different teams/studios doing the different versions but still all under the same EA umbrella. There probably isn't any communication and it's likely the team porting the WiiU version didn't even know about the other studio making the trilogy.

Could be different higher ups at EA corporate as well that OK'd each version and they didn't talk to each other either. There is so much disconnect in big companies where different departments let alone different offsite studios don't talk to other ones.

People have their own responsibilities and they just do what their told with blinders on. You can't have water cooler chats when you're not even in the same state or country as the other team members.

Every release by EA is going to be OKed by top-level management, most likely Peter Moore as the COO and John Riccitiello as CEO. Both ME trilogy on PS3 and ME3 on Wii U would have been approved by them in the early stages, and if they wanted to take a less profoundly stupid approach to the Wii U it was up to them to do so.

To me it sounds more like EA had to put something quickly on the Wii U, so they just ported ME3.

Maybe it was easier to put the 3 games in one box for PS360 than into Wii U, you know, implementing dual screen futures, etc, etc.

EA had dev kits early 2011 at the latest. There was plenty of time to bring over Warfighter, plenty of time to bring Dead Space 3 and plenty of time for them to bring Crysis 3. I can't see them costing any more than ME3 to port, and yet they'd all sell a lot better than it. There's simply no kind of logic in which porting ME3 was a better business decision than any of those.
 

Linkhero1

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I you misunderstand me, I'm not getting my hopes up at all. I'm just saying it's possible, not that it will happen. IIRC, the very interview that d-e-f- is refering to was the one that Ancel spoke about getting green-lit by a publisher.

It's possible, but I doubt Ubisoft would make this an exclusive. Then again, who thought Nintendo would revive Bayonetta 2.
 

Tmdean

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It is a valid reason though, its the same as Bayonetta 2, if you want it buy the machine, if the single game (or in this case trilogy) isn't enough to justify the purchase then wait a few years & buy the other consoles cheaply.

I have to admit I have a lot more sympathy for the disappointed Bayonetta fans after hearing this news. I still think the Mass Effect situation is worse because it really seems like the only sensible explanation is spite. With Bayonetta 2 it's perfectly logical for Nintendo to want to finance a highly regarded franchise in order to promote a new console. With Mass Effect, it's just a baffling decision.
 
I wonder why Nintendo hasn't gone after Metal Gear Rising Revengeance. With it releasing on 02/21/2013, it would fit nicely into the launch window. I just don't own a 360 or PS3 and getting a Wii U would love to play this game too. It would also be a good game for people to play from Platinum while we have to wait for Bayonetta 2. I hope Konami wants to put it on Wii U, would be a great place for the game.
 

cand

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#OperationNormandy get the Mass Effect Trilogy on Wii U! Hehe I started it on twitter.

Actually, this is a good idea. Working or not, showing what we want is the least we can do. You got one follower sir. Come on guys!!! Let's stop whinin' here and let EA hear us. Maybe they smell our money.
 
It's just a really, really bad move from a business perspective.

Who the hell is the target consumer for ME3 Wii U as things stand right now?

Nintendofans will probably feel wronged when they see the ME trilogy released at other consoles at the same price, and even if they were previously interested in ME3 they'll probably skip it out of dislike of EA.

When a newcomer to the ME-series sees the ME3:SE and ME trilogy boxes side by side, for the same price, in shops - chances are that they will probably go for the ME trilogy as it'll give them more for their cash.

So that leaves like, the ME-player who only has the third and final game left - and have somehow managed to hold out all this time ME3 has been out, and who will probably go for the ME3 version that will allow them to move over their character from ME1/2.
 
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