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Resident Evil 6 - Review Thread | Activist Reviews and the Hate Patrol Destroy Truth™

The problem is nobody ever uses the "full scale" except when they want to use it.

Look at how Sonic 06, a universally maligned and broken piece of shit, basically got no lower than a 4 from any site.

this, 5/10 in video games is not average, it's horrible. An average game is given a 7/10, good 8/10, excellent 9/10.


The review score system is fucked up, another reason why gaming "journalism" is shit because they are fixed on this flawed childish 1-10 scale
 
I'm surprised by the amount of bad scores actually. People keep saying reviewers are bought by publishers but if that is the case here capcon forgot to send the money bags.

I was more or less convinced it would get mixed reviews but this is pretty crazy. I mean the same game gets 3,4,5 scores but also 7,8,9.

Will be interesting to watch Capcom's damage control and how it will affect sales. If the game is that polarizing, I expect store to be soon flooded with used copies.

sales would probably be good. But i'm scared to imagine what RE7 is gonna be like.
 

AkuMifune

Banned
Did you play the demo?

It's this bad.

I was hoping for some kind of backlash because I personally detest them walking away from what made RE great in the first place, but this is crazy.

But as others have said, let's see if it has any impact on sales. I think the RE series will sell well regardless of what the scores are.
 


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AgentP

Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
Well they managed to make a worse RE game than RE5, congrats. Can't say I'm surprised, this game looked bad from every angle.
 

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
An average score doesn't reflect the actual "average" score a publication gives overall. It should simply mean that the critic reviewing the game feels that in terms of quality based on his/her personal opinion, the production is average. That's how I see it. Not that I would defend Gamespot's scoring or speak to their reliability in particular.

Well, the GameSpot score itself says "Poor" under 4.5, so they have clarified what their own scores mean.

GameSpot said:
10.0: Prime
This exceedingly rare score refers to a game that is as perfect as a game can aspire to be at its time of release. Obviously, the constantly changing standards for technology and gameplay will probably make this game obsolete some day, but at its time of release, a game earning this score could not have been improved upon in any meaningful way.
9.0-9.5: Superb
We absolutely recommend any game in this range, especially to fans of that particular genre. However, games that score in the 9 range are also typically well suited to new players. Games that earn 9s are naturally uncommon, and earn GameSpot's Editors' Choice Award for their outstanding quality.
8.0-8.5: Great
This range refers to great games that are excellent in almost every way and whose few setbacks probably aren't too important. We highly recommend games in the upper half of this range, since they tend to be good enough to provide an enjoyable experience to fans of the particular genre and to new players alike.
7.0-7.5: Good
A game within this range is good overall, and likely worth playing by fans of the particular genre or by those otherwise interested. While its strengths outweigh its weaknesses, a game that falls in this range tends to have noticeable faults.
6.0-6.5: Fair
Games that earn 6-range ratings have certain good qualities but significant problems as well. These games may well be worth playing, but you should approach them with caution.
5.0-5.5: Mediocre
A 5-range score refers to a game that's "merely average" in the negative sense. These games tend to have enough major weaknesses to considerably outweigh their strengths. There's probably a substantially better, similar game out there for you.
4.0-4.5: Poor
Games that just don't work right and maybe didn't spend enough time in production tend to fall in to this category. They simply lack the cohesion and quality that make other games fun.
3.0-3.5: Bad
You probably shouldn't get too close to a game in this range. Any of its positive qualities most likely serve only to make the rest of it seem even more disappointing.
2.0-2.5: Terrible
Beware, for a game in this range is almost entirely devoid of any remotely decent or fully functional features.
1.0-1.5: Abysmal
Ouch. The rare game that falls in this lowest-of-the-low range has no redeeming qualities whatsoever. Don't play this game.
A 5 would be average though on their scale yes.
 

cacildo

Member
Just feels like the perfect storm of people frustrated with capcom, frustrated with the direction of the RE series and reviewers trying to make a splash for themselves in the hits dept by outdoing eachother with shitty scores.

It can't be this terrible.

I dont know, maybe it is.

"Blockbuster games" are getting more annoying by the year.

Game size and graphics used to impress people. Not anymore. Every game feels the same. Its a lot easier to be pissed off by a big game.
 

Dusk Golem

A 21st Century Rockefeller
I am honestly thinking this game would be doing better critically if it DIDN'T have the RE name attached.
 

Sn4ke_911

If I ever post something in Japanese which I don't understand, please BAN me.
So these reviews just confirmed the feeling i had for this game.

No buy for me.
 
I have not played this game, and only watched Giantbomb play through the demo, so I am no expert on RE6, but why are the reviewers now deciding to use the full 10 point scale on this game?
They did the same thing with Duke Nukem Forever. If I had to guess it's partly to stick it to a particular game and partly to rationalize their continued use of a 10 point scale.
 

omonimo

Banned
It isn't, if the NeoGAF impressions of people playing it right now are anything to go by. It's agreeable it is a polarizing game that has uneven levels of quality, but it isn't this bad.
So what's wrong with the reviewers to hate that much this game? They are payed to the western developers to screw capcom?
 

Endo Punk

Member
This was all Capcom JPN's doing. The western division doesn't as much influence as you think, and they certainly didn't impress this upon them.

The game wasn't just Capcom Japan like Dragon's Dogma. It had over 600 employees which included their western division who are completely incompetent. Every time Capcom wants to make a game that solely appeals to the West they fail miserably, there are so many examples now I don't understand why they don't learn instead continue to make dated vision-less games for the West.
 

Vossler

Member
Has anyone elaborated on these "technical issues" that the 360 version has? Screen tearing/ low fps, what are they?
 
It's sounding like I'll find a bunch to enjoy in the game, hopefully the numerous flaws aren't too much of a drag (it wouldn't be the first time I've enjoyed a poorly received game). It's just a shame, the game had such potential. Maybe Capcom will head back to the drawing board and come up with something exciting for the next game in the series...either that or farm it out to a Westerndeveloper so that everyone can get super furious. :p
 

Floex

Member
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REPEAT: DON'T WHINE ABOUT CAPCOM'S GAME TO ME. AS I'VE SAID 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000TIMES, I DON'T FUCKING CARE.
 

Duffyside

Banned
I checked on Metacritic, and apparently the average review score given to a game is 72.5.

So, we'd either have to consider almost every game ever reviewed above average, or just say that RE6 is in an incredibly low percentile by some publications' standards.

Or we could presume that the score would be lower if they reviewed more games, like flash games, shovelware, etc. Or that scores are inflated by being in a ever-improving industry, where the graphics and capabilities are always getting better, blahblahblah.

But no, I'm with you that a 7 is about "average" by the shitty gaming press's standards. Though if we were to all focus on good people more than sites and metacritic, things might be a bit better.
 

herod

Member
The Famitsu score is questionable in light of the others. I'm happy to believe the odd person loved it, but four of them all loving it?
 

AkuMifune

Banned
1000 people will be working on it after the successful sales of RE6

What this series needs is the opposite. 20 guys making a survival horror game and one man with a vision.

I just can't see Capcom learning that lesson, even with this fiasco. They seem too stubborn about the whole thing.
 

jett

D-Member
LOLZ at Gametrailers.

Some truly decent reviews out there though, glad to see some could see past the big franchise name. This game is a mess on a fundamental, basic level.

Others not so much, unfortunately.
 
It isn't, if the NeoGAF impressions of people playing it right now are anything to go by. It's agreeable it is a polarizing game that has uneven levels of quality, but it isn't this bad.

The current NeoGAF impressions are from the hardcore fans who wanted the game no matter what, and therefore got it early. There's no way any of their impressions were going to be negative.
 
All the negative reviews I read seems to emphasize on the identity of the new Resident Evil rather than judging it on its own merits. One reviewer really made me chuckle for mentioning this:
Ruins the pace by constantly ripping control from you
This is coming from the same guy who gave MGS4 a 10. smh.

Resident Evil 6 is true value for the money. Amazing graphics and cut-scenes, Awesome long campaigns and online components and Great music work. It's a true work of art. It's nowhere near as bad as those negative reviews might lead you to expect.

Nostalgia and man baby reviewers are killing the industry. Capcom will probably think that going to the series roots will make it any different.
 

Foffy

Banned
I am honestly thinking this game would be doing better critically if it DIDN'T have the RE name attached.

..What? People would be all over the inconsistency of the demo and the QTE stuff all over the place. The fact that it has the RE name guarantees it will do well, even if it has very little to do with what RE actually was.
 

Neiteio

Member
This is really fascinating to watch. I've only played the public demo so far. First time I was really turned off -- the camera, the objective marker, the HUD, the QTEs, the darkness, the new mechanics, they all irked me.

Then the second time, I dialed the camera down to 2, the aiming up to 7, changed from crosshairs to laser sight, and dialed the brightness up from the default 20 to 30. I learned to slide into cover, to shoulder-check enemies with a running melee, to do a Vanquish-style slide by running and tapping L1 (and shoot while sliding), to do quick-shots with simultaneous (and subsequent) taps of both triggers, to throw myself to my back and roll around enemies with aiming and X, and to load pills once crafted out of herbs in the inventory. I got a handle on the inventory, which is a huge step up, arranged like PS3's hub menu. I came to see the benefits of a dedicated melee button, one governed by a stamina meter so you can't abuse it, and I learned how the context-sensitive melees are still there. With the slower camera, movement was no longer nauseating. I also no longer found the objective marker or HUD distracting; the latter, in particular, has grown on me, with its segmented health bar making pill management a breeze, and individual shells visualizing exactly how much ammo I have left.

So suffice it to say, it really clicked with the second and third demo playthroughs. That being said, I can absolutely understand where all of the reviews are coming from. The game is definitely a shambling Frankstein's monster of many parts, sometimes patched together inelegantly. But your mileage will vary: I personally love many of the individual parts, and coupled with the dumb bombastic energy powering the whole enterprise, it becomes something more than the sum of its parts. This is probably a bad example, since many people hated the game, but it kind of reminds me of Sonic Adventure 2: I know that objectively the game is flawed on many levels, yet somehow it comes together for a memorable and consistently fun experience. At least, that's what I'm inferring from the demo -- we'll see how the full game holds up Tuesday.
 
All the negative reviews I read seems to emphasize on the identity of the new Resident Evil rather than judging it on its own merits. One reviewer really made me chuckle for mentioning this:

This is coming from the same guy who gave MGS4 a 10. smh.

Resident Evil 6 is true value for the money. Amazing graphics and cut-scenes, Awesome long campaigns and online components and Great music work. It's a true work of art. It's nowhere near as bad as those negative reviews might lead you to expect.

MGS4 came out 4 years ago

And is everyone who carries water for Resident Evil going to use the IT HAS A LOT OF CONTENT as a plus for RE6? The game plays like shit; the chance to play more shit isn't a positive.
 

sonicmj1

Member
I know I said I was gonna stay from GAF today, but I couldn't help it. A few things I wanted to say:

- GAF seems to like the game...well at least the people that got it early. That includes people that flat-out hated the demo.

- People were looking for any and every reason to hate the game. I haven't been on GAF long, but the "hive mind" was in full effect here. No game is perfect, and people pick and choose what "issues" they want to look pass for a franchise they like. I've never seen a game torn apart and nitpicked as much as the demo for this was.

- "Polarizing" is an understatement. "Gamers" seem to be enjoying the game, but not game journalists...people have said parts of the game are as good/better than RE4. Yet the journalists are saying this as bad as ORC? I don't think I've ever played a game that even comes close to being as bad as that game.

- Capcom has to step their game up ASAP. After ORC and this, I can't imagine the series going anywhere but up. Or at least I hope, as Capcom has done a horrible job handling their franchises this generation...

People who get the game early are more likely to enjoy it (especially after the demo) than people who wait until release day to buy, because early buyers are almost certainly more passionate about the game. And it's silly to talk about "hive mind" negativity on GAF when the reviewers are not GAF members.

Beyond that, yeah, it seems like a polarizing game. Considering how much it consciously attempts to ape popular blockbuster titles, it also might be victim to a sort of backlash against those kinds of games. Either way, I'm going to wait on it until it gets cheaper.
 

edbrat

Member
RE6 is looking like it has another superb iteration of Mercenaries.

And for that, it's got a purchase from me. I've never really minded RE's controls and camera.

AAAAAAHHHHHHH yes yes yes I was about to post saying "not heard anything about mercs in this review-ageddon is that good or bad?" - so mercs is looking good then? As long as mercs is ok and I can have a giggle co-oping then all is right with the world.

Really looking forward to this still, hurry the shit up Amazon pre-order!
 

Endo Punk

Member
RE is their biggest franchise, if these review scores are not a wake up call then they're truly a lost cause. They ran SF into the ground and it seems RE is going to go the same way. BIG change is really needed.
 
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