plagiarize
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smaller, quieter, more reliable and capable of effects the 360 and PS3 aren't.
it won't. I just mention it to argue with someone putting forth the notion that the Wii U is not a next gen console.
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ME3, NG3:RE, Batman, EM2, WO3, BLOPS2, Darksiders 2 have technical issues on Wii U
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smaller, quieter, more reliable and capable of effects the 360 and PS3 aren't.
Sorry. I meant to say the original xbox did not come out 7 years after the ps2. Some ports were not perfect, but the vast majority were, from the get go.
Kazuma Kiryu
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Three of those are 1st party and Power Stone is a third party exclusive from Capcom, no wonder they worked perfectly.
That said, can't wait to see what Capcom has in store for the Wii U.
Hydro Thunder (Arcade perfect), Marvel vs. Capcom (Arcade Perfect), The House of the Dead 2 (Arcade Perfect), and NFL 2K (60fps)
I'm running out of launch games. Blue Stinger?
Once again, HOTD is first party, MvC which, again is Capcom and a 2D fighter which was probably easy to make arcade perfect, and NFL 2K is a console exclusive.
EDIT: Blue Stinger, console exclusive by Activision as well. Hydro thunder was release by Midway on the Dreamcast before the other console ports.
What I mean by all of this is that first/third party exclusives will probably be perfect on Wii U.
Sonic Adventure was riddled with bugs, crashes, a terrible camera and had a poor framerate.
VF3 launched without a multiplayer mode.
Crazy Taxi was riddled with slowdown in the Arcade map and the Original map ran very poorly.
Crazy Taxi was a 1:1 arcade port. Naomi = Dreamcast. I played the arcade version. It runs exactly the same.
Sonic Adventure was a next gen game at the time... Performance was negligible.
VF3 was a rushed port... And even then it had optimal performance. And ran in VGA!
Think about it. 3 of those games ran in 480p... No PS2 games at launch ran in progressive scan.
Don't worry I know, I am a Dreamcast fan and I have a VGA box as well. I totally know what you mean man.
I loved the Dreamcast and its launch but it was far from perfect. Id have loved to see what the system could do with 3 more years of development invested. I thought PS2 and PSX scaled well through their generations but nothing comes close to what we are seeing this generation. The new NFS, Witcher 2 are both ridiculous on 7 year hardware
Hawk269
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So the fact that the piss poor port of Mass Effect 3 is better than the PS3 version, what does that say about the PS3? Seems people are quick to kill off the Wii U, but it was able to get a better port than what was available on the PS3. I have all the consoles and a killer gaming rig that would make anything cry and I don't understand the hate towards one console or the other.
Wii U is only a week old tomorrow and yeah, ports is what we are going to get for a while, so I anticipate that they will be solid, but perhaps not as good as the target hardware that the game was originally made for.
Wii U is only a week old tomorrow and yeah, ports is what we are going to get for a while, so I anticipate that they will be solid, but perhaps not as good as the target hardware that the game was originally made for.
Unreal Engine on PS3. PS3 is harder to code for.
Snowden's Secret
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Couldn't that be the case with all of these Wii U games? That's it's "harder" (or at least more unfamiliar to devs) than others? I've been playing AC3 on Wii U and it runs with no (platform exclusive) issues of any kind, which makes sense considering Ubisoft has taken to the U more than other devs.
Hawk269
Member
How is that game on teh Wii U? I have not played it on any platform and only played the first AC game, so it has been a while. If you can provide any impressions of the game on teh Wii U and how it uses the pad it would be cool.
Thanks!
THQ's Vigil Games never put a game on Wii yet they stated that Wii U was one of the easier platforms to develop for when porting Darksiders 2 to it. Same with Developer Frozenbyte who ported Trine 2 to Wii U back in March 2012. Frozenbyte said that they got Trine 2 running fast on Wii U in 2 days. They have like 50 employees which includes testers. They mentioned in an interview about how it was more about knowing your own tech to get their game to run well on Wii U. The dev team also said that they didn't really require any major assistance from Nintendo in terms of actual development.
Snowden's Secret
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It has off screen play which should be mandatory for all games here on out, and a persistent minimap if you are playing on the tv. The minimap is awesome for open world games where you are constantly pausing to open the game. Though it's missing some basic functionality, like being able to scroll the map/place waypoints/otherwise intereact with the map directly from the touchscreen.
There's also some board game minigames that could have worked really well on the pad but there's no touch implementation of that at all (as far as I'm aware).
lunchwithyuzo
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Nope, Naomi had way more RAM. Some games used higher quality textures in arcades due to this even.
lunchwithyuzo
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None of these were launch games. DC launched in November 1998 with VF3tb (worse than the Model 3 original, despite DC being more powerful hardware), Pen Pen Triathlon, Godzilla Generations and July. For the entire rest of the year it got Sonic Adventure (which was even buggier than the cleaned up release we got), Tetris 4D, Incoming (downgraded PC port) and Seventh Cross.
You sure about that for Crazy Taxi? I played it at Fun Arcade and the pop up and texture resolution was the same. As well as the slowdown in the same spots. lol
Thunder Monkey
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lunchwithyuzo
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I don't know if it was the case for CT1 specifically, but it wasn't uncommon. Powerstone used higher quality textures in the arcade version for example.
Naomi had double the main memory, double the VRAM and quadruple the audio memory of Dreamcast. Arcade conversions weren't perfect, but they were close enough it didn't really matter. It's more or less the same with most console based arcade boards (like Saturn/STV, PS1/System 11, PS2/System 246, Gamecube/Triforce, Xbox/Chihiro, etc).
it launched at 299$ (core system). THe Premium with 20GB HDD was 399$
http://www.xb360info.com/xbox/console/102
Looking back at Power Stone at the arcades... You're right about the textures.
Flagship intel cpu's:
Pentium to Pentium 2... what was the difference?
Pentium 2 to 3
Pentium 3 to 4
Performance was not the main differentiator? If not what was?
Do I really needto dig up gpu cards too?
Sorry, if it was posted already.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=137X2LcF-wM
Reggie was live on CNN and talked about WiiU and there he said "third party games like CoD look dramatically better on our system" ...
I guess he never played WiiU or PS360.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=137X2LcF-wM
Reggie was live on CNN and talked about WiiU and there he said "third party games like CoD look dramatically better on our system" ...
I guess he never played WiiU or PS360.
CosmicGroinPull
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LMAO. Well good on them if they manage to fool people into thinking that. People who purchase blindly deserve what they get. I have no sympathy for them.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Wow.. I remember when FFXIII came out some firm in UK actually sued Square Enix for misrepresenting the 360 version with PS3 footage in the ads being aired there, good thing this was CNN, and not BBC I guess.
Shadow of the BEAST
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The sad thing is even-though wiiu might be more powerful, no one is going to spend the time and money to find out. Not only that. But no one is going to walk that extra mile to get it up to par. Like they did with ps3.
This hardware generation is almost over. The best and brightest are going to move away from this gens technology on to next gen systems.
what will be left for wiiu are the same that will be left for 360/ps3. Ie B-team ports. Just like the wii.
This hardware generation is almost over. The best and brightest are going to move away from this gens technology on to next gen systems.
what will be left for wiiu are the same that will be left for 360/ps3. Ie B-team ports. Just like the wii.
plagiarize
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you keep ignoring the following point I've made more than once:
not every Pentium 2 was faster than every Pentium. not every Pentium 3 was faster than every Pentium 2. not every Pentium 4 was faster than every Pentium 3 and so on.
what was different was a more modern design and architecture. yes, this allowed a few of the chips in each new generation to be faster than all the previous ones, but it also allowed for smaller chips, and cooler chips, and more reliable chips, and cheaper chips at the same performance levels when compared with the previous generation of CPUs.
CPU and GPU generations are not purely about power, like you claim, and neither are console generations.
Synless
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Maybe, maybe not. With the amount of company closings and raising development costs, I believe that many companies will take the Wii U more seriously for its projects.
Oh Reggie...
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
reggie doesn't lie!
Reggie telling fibs again. I'm surprised no one has made a thread for that video yet. The reporter asked some good questions as well
Ouch at any potential customers hearing that your new system is "pretty much on par with the Xbox 360 and PS3"
Oh dear.
I think CNN stole it's talking points from GAF...
LabouredSubterfuge
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Nintendo gonna Nintendo.
Did you see that Mario pin on his jacket O_O... DO WANT.
Re-discovered (thread-worthy?):
Sounds nice.
Sounds dumb. Not every game has to have that extra- OMG factor WiiU gamepad factor.
Sounds nice.
Sounds dumb. Not every game has to have that extra- OMG factor WiiU gamepad factor.
XtremeXpider
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Are there any screenshots or videos from Wii U version?
I'm guessing part of it is also to justify a late port. Still, you could justify it JUST by keeping the map on the bottom screen: isn't that worthwhile for a somewhat open world, loot based game?
Each generation of the Pentium line was created as an attempt to better the performance of the previous generation. The slowest Penium 1's at the time were always slower than the slowest Pentium 2's, even if the fastest Pentiums may be faster than some of the slower Pentium 2's. They were developed solely to improve as a whole the performance of the previous generation. Go ahead. Find some PR material. Find some marketing. You come back and you let me know if the power of the chip was emphasized or not.
Each generation of consoles were MARKETED HEAVILY as more powerful than the previous. You live in a dreamland.
Touch screen loot management alone would be justification enough for a loot-based game.
thats what hes saying