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Wii U price in Brazil
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ProtoCents
Banned
Nossa... nossa
in chile:
wii u (deluxe): 625 usd
360 (4gb): 322 usd
ps3 (infamous bundle): 375 usd
todojuegos?
quizas paseo las palmas trae mas barato :/
That is usually what I do. Try to stick with Steam and PSN and buy the consoles/games when I travel to the U.S.
That and the Steam incursion to the Brazil market can´t be good for Nintendo if their hardware and games are not priced competitively, though to be honest I don´t think they give a shit about Latin American markets.
Wat no...
But yeah it sucks, basically everyone either asks a "friend" to bring on from the States, sometimes even real friends. In my home country Colombia is the same.
The whole Latin America have issues with the prices. It is Nintendo fault. Reggie is too slow to fix it. It is insane.
This. I'm so glad Steam exists. Its not impossible to have all the consoles here, but you have to be smart and look for sales or something like that. Still sucks that videogames are considered bad-luck games (don't know if thats the correct translation - basically the government consider them casino machines lol yeah) and the taxes are gigantic for things like that.
ThatCrazyGuy
Member
Are all electronic devices taxed like this? Or just game consoles? Sucky situation for gamers.
Projectjustice
Banned
Came here to say this.
Game consoles only. :\
Yes, it's very expensive. But that's not the whole story:
I live in São Paulo and there is a place called "Santa Ifigênia" that is something like Chinatown in NY. It's where we can buy games/hardware from stores who imports these stuff mostly from Paraguay, altought they began to sell official products too.
People who import games from Paraguay or from anywhere else - like me, who buys from mariio128.com, Play-Asia and hkofferhouse, usually don't get taxed. I was NEVER taxed buying game from these websites and I have more thatn 50 games that I bought in the last 3 years (since I stopped to use piracy).
Almost all of my consoles (NDS, 3DS, PS3, XBOX 360, WII, PSP) were bought in the US by my friends/boyfriend, so, I'm very lucky and have paid the same thing that you guys, pay in US.
We can bring 500 U$$ in eletronics product from USA without paying taxes, but it's very common people to bring TONS of stuff without being taxed - in his last trip, my boyfriend bought himself a Laptop, Xbox 360 and a TE Arcade Stick, a Wii for me and a PS3 for his nephew... and guess what? He didn't "get caught" in the airport, so, no taxes (only US taxes).
That said, the Wii U console is new, it's REALLY rare to find here and they will send for the highest price possible until christmas. Because there's some CRAZY people that will buy!
So, just for comparison:
Xbox 360 4GB + Kinect + Kinect Adventures + Disney shit game = R$ 1200,00 =~ U$$ 600,00.
Ok, it's expensive, but we are talking about our "formal market". We can buy a "naked" Xbox 360 4Gb for 600-700 reais, 300~350 US dollars. It IS expensive, but it's not THAT expensive.
So, this price WILL NOT be the Wii U price in Brazil (at least we hope so) for a very long time, I bet they will launch the Wii U for something like 1600 reais (800 dollars). It's expensive, bu ti's not like 2100/2300 (8gb/32gb) that we are seeing around.
It's bad, but could be worsE:
The PS3 was first selled here for 2700 dollars - with 4 PS2 games =P
(The currency was very different at that time, U$$ 1 = R$ 3, now it's U$$ 1 = R$ 2).
The happy part is that I'm going to NY (first time in US!) next february and I will bought my Wii U "cheaper" hehehe
I live in São Paulo and there is a place called "Santa Ifigênia" that is something like Chinatown in NY. It's where we can buy games/hardware from stores who imports these stuff mostly from Paraguay, altought they began to sell official products too.
People who import games from Paraguay or from anywhere else - like me, who buys from mariio128.com, Play-Asia and hkofferhouse, usually don't get taxed. I was NEVER taxed buying game from these websites and I have more thatn 50 games that I bought in the last 3 years (since I stopped to use piracy).
Almost all of my consoles (NDS, 3DS, PS3, XBOX 360, WII, PSP) were bought in the US by my friends/boyfriend, so, I'm very lucky and have paid the same thing that you guys, pay in US.
We can bring 500 U$$ in eletronics product from USA without paying taxes, but it's very common people to bring TONS of stuff without being taxed - in his last trip, my boyfriend bought himself a Laptop, Xbox 360 and a TE Arcade Stick, a Wii for me and a PS3 for his nephew... and guess what? He didn't "get caught" in the airport, so, no taxes (only US taxes).
That said, the Wii U console is new, it's REALLY rare to find here and they will send for the highest price possible until christmas. Because there's some CRAZY people that will buy!
So, just for comparison:
Xbox 360 4GB + Kinect + Kinect Adventures + Disney shit game = R$ 1200,00 =~ U$$ 600,00.
Ok, it's expensive, but we are talking about our "formal market". We can buy a "naked" Xbox 360 4Gb for 600-700 reais, 300~350 US dollars. It IS expensive, but it's not THAT expensive.
So, this price WILL NOT be the Wii U price in Brazil (at least we hope so) for a very long time, I bet they will launch the Wii U for something like 1600 reais (800 dollars). It's expensive, bu ti's not like 2100/2300 (8gb/32gb) that we are seeing around.
It's bad, but could be worsE:
The PS3 was first selled here for 2700 dollars - with 4 PS2 games =P
(The currency was very different at that time, U$$ 1 = R$ 3, now it's U$$ 1 = R$ 2).
The happy part is that I'm going to NY (first time in US!) next february and I will bought my Wii U "cheaper" hehehe
Barack Lesnar
Banned
No wonder they play LoL and DotA so much, how can you blame them with these unreal prices?
ThatCrazyGuy
Member
damn that sucks. Seems stupid.
I'll just get one in Miami or NY.
Seriously prices are so fucking ridiculous here that pretty much every middle class person I know just goes to the USA like 2 times a year to buy consumer goods like electronics and brand name clothing.
Last time I went to B&H Photo in NY I swear there was more brazilian portuguese than english being spoken inside.
Seriously prices are so fucking ridiculous here that pretty much every middle class person I know just goes to the USA like 2 times a year to buy consumer goods like electronics and brand name clothing.
Last time I went to B&H Photo in NY I swear there was more brazilian portuguese than english being spoken inside.
Projectjustice
Banned
Ill trade you Brazilians our videogame prices for your women. lol
It's not that easy too, you have some rich friends.
I'm not a poor person, actually, I'm lucky to have a pretty decent salary - good, not awesome. But I live alone and I must say that is hard to save money to travel abroad to expense even more shopping... still, I don't buy games here and I'm saving money to buy tons of clothes in NY too (especially that I've lost 37 kg in the last 4 months lol). But yes, it's very expensive and I don't see myself buying ANY console here in the formal market - it's expensive and unfair.
I would change that without thinking - I'm gay lol
I doubt that is the official price.
The WiiU hasn't been announced on Brazil yet. That's just the random price some importer choose to charge for it. Considering that the thing has just launched and availability is still scarce they obviously are overcharging the hell of it.
Eventually other importers will begin to sell the WiiU and they will compete among themselves bringing the price down a bit.
I have no doubt that when Nintendo or it's licensor officially announces the WiiU it will be at least double the regular US price, but I bet it will be a bit cheaper than that.
Most consoles sold on Brazil are smuggled from Paraguay. If you can make the trip yourself the prices fall accordingly. Brazilian gamers fucking love Paraguay.
The WiiU hasn't been announced on Brazil yet. That's just the random price some importer choose to charge for it. Considering that the thing has just launched and availability is still scarce they obviously are overcharging the hell of it.
Eventually other importers will begin to sell the WiiU and they will compete among themselves bringing the price down a bit.
I have no doubt that when Nintendo or it's licensor officially announces the WiiU it will be at least double the regular US price, but I bet it will be a bit cheaper than that.
Most consoles sold on Brazil are smuggled from Paraguay. If you can make the trip yourself the prices fall accordingly. Brazilian gamers fucking love Paraguay.
The Bookerman
Member
They sell local versions from Master System and Genesis consoles with games included in the memory.
Genesis with 81 games - US$ 160.00
Master System with 132 games - about US$ 85.00
However, they don't sell very well anymore. Currently the Xbox 360 is the best selling console here.
Shit I thought it was the Sega Saturn.
A bit of background info, really superficial analysis, but I guess it would get the point across:
Our import tax is basically an awful heritage from our industry development policy from the 1900s: our industry was sucessfully installed by being overly protected against import goods. When our economy actually started openning up back in the 90s, it was a mess: our industry simply wasn't able to keep up, pretty much adapt or die. And well, tons died.
Well, fast forward 20 years and a lot of our sectors are still being overly protected by the import taxes.
Thing is, sh*t doesn't make sense. It was SUPPOSED to be a market-reserve policy, but there are no substitutes. Not even CLOSE. It's just a boost to gov'nt income and the retail sector markup.
As it is now, on my state, an imported Wii U would cost:
1) Base product + Shipping: 350 + 50 = $ 400.
2) Import taxes, applied on product+shipping: 60% * 400 = $ 240
3) ICMS (state commerce tax, rules and rates varies by state), inside calculated = (400+240) * 0.17/0.83 = $ 131
4) IOF (tax on financial operation) = 6,5% * $400 = $26
So a totally legit Wii U would be ~$ 797, or ~R$1600.
Anyways, it makes no sense to pay anything close to $1000. Talk about crazy markups
Our import tax is basically an awful heritage from our industry development policy from the 1900s: our industry was sucessfully installed by being overly protected against import goods. When our economy actually started openning up back in the 90s, it was a mess: our industry simply wasn't able to keep up, pretty much adapt or die. And well, tons died.
Well, fast forward 20 years and a lot of our sectors are still being overly protected by the import taxes.
Thing is, sh*t doesn't make sense. It was SUPPOSED to be a market-reserve policy, but there are no substitutes. Not even CLOSE. It's just a boost to gov'nt income and the retail sector markup.
As it is now, on my state, an imported Wii U would cost:
1) Base product + Shipping: 350 + 50 = $ 400.
2) Import taxes, applied on product+shipping: 60% * 400 = $ 240
3) ICMS (state commerce tax, rules and rates varies by state), inside calculated = (400+240) * 0.17/0.83 = $ 131
4) IOF (tax on financial operation) = 6,5% * $400 = $26
So a totally legit Wii U would be ~$ 797, or ~R$1600.
Anyways, it makes no sense to pay anything close to $1000. Talk about crazy markups
Ultimadrago
Member
Yikes, man. I had no idea about those prices...
They don't really give a shit. They're not even here! Their products are officially distributed by the hands of a third party who also don't give a shit. To give an example: The famous ads with the japanese guys entering in the houses of people bringing the wii only started to show here like a year ago... And by the same time, finally, they started to translate the copies boxes, because everything was just in english before that and that was it. Support is also non-existent.
At least MS and Sony really distribute and support their consoles here, even if the prices are high... Wii-u wasn't released here and that price was from an importer, but i don't believe the "official" one will be much different.
About the price, i'm part of the problem. In 2008, i bought the PS3 for 900 dollars here... Damn shame. Was just too anxious to play MGS4. I'll never do this kind of shenanigans again.
Silas Lang
Member
Holy crap, didn't realize you guys had it so bad. :/
I see some listings in MercadoLibre, about US$650 for the Deluxe.
These aren't physically here though.
Master System with 132 games - about US$ 85.00
However, they don't sell very well anymore. Currently the Xbox 360 is the best selling console here.
Six button Master System controller?
If you know someone who travels frequently to the US you can buy it without paying taxes. The importation limit in this case is $500.
WAR recon zero
Banned
I'm sure most of brazilian will contraband this without paying INSANE tax.
Not really rich friends but I live in Brasilia where everyone is a "funcionario publico" so I guess people are a bit better off than elsewhere.
But seriously if you manage to get a good deal on the airfare or if you (like me) fly a lot because of your job, you can probably travel to the USA regularly just using your mile rewards.
If you buy some extra stuff and sell it with a small margin once you get here it pretty much pays for itself.
Was that a new record ?
On a related note, Super Street Fighter 4 Arcade Edition Complete was 300% cheaper during steam sales .... EXCEPT when it was ON ACTUAL SALE xD
So tempting to become a STEAM only game player .... but i'm too nintendogirl to do this =/
Has the same plug as the Genesis one ... so you can use it to play street fighter ! xD
On a related note, Super Street Fighter 4 Arcade Edition Complete was 300% cheaper during steam sales .... EXCEPT when it was ON ACTUAL SALE xD
So tempting to become a STEAM only game player .... but i'm too nintendogirl to do this =/
Six button Master System controller?
Has the same plug as the Genesis one ... so you can use it to play street fighter ! xD
Decent 2k, good 4k.
Meus Renaissance
Member
Wouldnt it be cheaper to just buy your games from abroad?
Steam will make it very hard for me to get into next gen consoles. Scribblenauts Unlimited costs only $25 on Steam, compared to $60 on the Wii U, FFS.
The 3DS is my sole exception, since $40 is far more manageable than $60.
ReyBrujo
Member
No official distributor in Argentina since several years ago, but according to a newspaper (Spanish) you can pick one from a local retailer an 8GB one for $4.099 (USD 849) and the 32GB one for $4.499 (USD 932).
That's exactly what those of us who are able to do it do.
Cant you just cross the border, buy one in Texas and go back?