Yep, this is what I've been saying. NA & EU are bigger console markets than Japan. This whole strategy makes little sense other than a way to cheap out on the hardware and then use this low power draw / size thing as an excuse for PR reasons. It makes no sense to cater to the Japanese market.
So what does this mean?
So what does this mean?
People have claimed that Nintendo was catering to the Japanese who seem to like small, low power devices. This could have been a reasonable excuse if it wasn't for the fact that Sony was a Japanese company too.
So what does this mean?
Then why didn't they use a cheap CPU instead?Nintendo loves cheap things.
I'm not sure what you're talking about. What does the exchange rate have to do with this? And that last sentence is confusing.Well if you actually researched something for once, you would know that there is one big reason and that is the horrendous exchange rate. Not to mention you don't act like everything is dandy just because one of your systems is doing well there.
I wonder if NSMB has the chips running at 1GHz/400MHz as was initially planned for the system...
I wonder if NSMB has the chips running at 1GHz/400MHz as was initially planned for the system...
I'm pretty sure they did. What's expensive about Espresso?Then why didn't they use a cheap CPU instead?
It means that you shouldn't judge a processor solely on clock speeds alone.
A lot of us aren't doing that though.
I think it implies as others have said repeatedly that (raw) MHZ isn't the be all end all, that as others have stated the overall configuration is more important. CPU, GPU, edram, the trinity... How great is thy mysteries.. GPGPU.
What's been said before.. instructions / what you're doing per cycle is more important than the speed of the cycles themselves.
The 360 and PS3 are about 3.2GHz, but they aren't really that great with what they're doing with that speed. Heck, the latest mainstream Intel i7, last I looked, isn't even 3GHz.
It means that you shouldn't judge a processor solely on clock speeds alone.
Actually, a lot of posters are doing that.
Oh, so people shouldn't judge the Wii U because of the clock speeds? This should be posted everywhere.
So what does this mean?
It has but certain groups want to ignore this to bash the system.
Not in the last few pages. We've been talking about comparing the core tech per clock vs Xenon and other designs.
I think I'm going to exit this discussion until we have more details because it isn't going anywhere.
OK, now this is revisionism of this very thread, good lord.Though people have taken note of the low clock speed, I don't think anyone has really presented it as the smoking gun in their criticism of the CPU. This rhetoric of noting that clock speed isn't everything as a defense of its competency strikes me as somewhat odd.
Though people have taken note of the low clock speed, I don't think anyone has really presented it as the smoking gun in their criticism of the CPU. This rhetoric of noting that clock speed isn't everything as a defense of its competency strikes me as somewhat odd.
Though people have taken note of the low clock speed, I don't think anyone has really presented it as the smoking gun in their criticism of the CPU. This rhetoric of noting that clock speed isn't everything as a defense of its competency strikes me as somewhat odd.
Except it's not a low clock speed. If you're side is going to say it's low what about intel machines that per core run that speed at stock or less and now the next xbox which is rumored at being 400mhz more.
That's definitely true, but all we really know is that the CPU is used very differently than the way the CPU is utilized in the PS3 and 360 since so many sub-processing functions are meant to be offloaded in the WiiU.My point is that there was criticism of the CPU long before marcan measured the clock speed.
Check out post 2551.I feel like I missed new rumors, what's going on?
I'm pretty sure they did. What's expensive about Espresso?
That's definitely true, but all we really know is that the CPU is used very differently than the way the CPU is utilized in the PS3 and 360 since so many sub-processing functions are meant to be offloaded in the WiiU.
The CPU definitely doesn't compare to the current gen consoles but it clearly wasn't meant to and we still don't have a clear picture of how this does or doesn't effect game development.
If this new bombshell by Marcan is true things are probably still bad for next gen ports but not the catastrophe some people feared as recently as this morning.
Check out post 2551.
This has been the official freak out thread of the year, I have a feeling a lot of posters need to be held.I fear catastrophe. Someone hold me.
Check out post 2551.
I fear catastrophe. Someone hold me.
Now this is what I'd call a persecution complex if I ever saw one.Yeah it's sad, I think if Nintendo put a gtx 680, with 16GB of ram, and the best CPU people would still find a way to bash the system because it's a new system.
I think it implies as others have said repeatedly that (raw) MHZ isn't the be all end all, that as others have stated the overall configuration is more important. CPU, GPU, edram, the trinity... How great is thy mysteries.. GPGPU.
1.243125GHz, it's what the thread is about lol.Lol I forgot about that post, do we know how much GHz the Wii U CPU has yet?
Yeah, because the wii u has such an incredible architecture to make up for its low speed.
All these "GHz isn't everything" posts are getting really tiring. This isn't a fucking intel core i7.
My 2011 Core i5 chip runs at 2.27 GHz.
My 2003 Pentium 4 ran at 2.4 GHz.
Just saying.
1.243125GHz, it's what the thread is about lol.
Durango will probable have at 2.5 times the cores though, possibly with multiple threads.
Yeah it's sad, I think if Nintendo put a gtx 680, with 16GB of ram, and the best CPU people would still find a way to bash the system because it's a new system.
My 2011 Core i5 chip runs at 2.27 GHz.
My 2003 Pentium 4 ran at 2.4 GHz.
Just saying.
Don't worry, there'll be a new leak sometime later today where the WiiU GPU is revealed to be a Tegra4 and then we can start the merry-go-round back up again.Thank you. I can rest easy now. No need to worry.
If Marcan's source is correct then yes, but with the extra cores and more powerful GPU it won't mean much it just puts us back to square one before Marcan's original leak.So the Durango CPU doesn't "have" much more GHz then the Wii U CPU?
So the Durango CPU doesn't "have" much more GHz then the Wii U CPU?
Who cares? We all know it will be outclassed a generation ahead by the Nextbox and PS4.
Don't worry, there'll be a new leak sometime later today where the WiiU GPU is revealed to be a Tegra4 and then we can start the merry-go-round back up again.
Who cares? We all know it will be outclassed a generation ahead by the Nextbox and PS4.
Better think twice before hitting that 'submit reply' button next time.
But those demos start running on the pc's.Who knows how they are going to run on those systems.Looking at the next gen demo videos like Agni or Unreal 4 how can you said he's wrong? Until nothing shows the contrary I think he's right.
"Custom" means absolutely nothing if you produce millions.custom parts are almost always more expensive initially, but prices should lower very quickly for the Espresso.
But those demos start running on the pc's.Who knows how they are going to run on those systems.