KojiKnight
Member
Agreed the ONLY way this could/would/should ever be considered acceptable is in a F2P environment. Hell, I think most people would be okay with WarZ in general if this was the case.
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The War Z: shady, misleading and false advertising.
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Agreed the ONLY way this could/would/should ever be considered acceptable is in a F2P environment. Hell, I think most people would be okay with WarZ in general if this was the case.
universalmind
Member
It's KKRT00
Then you delete characters and remake them. If you want to use your main character then you should be more careful to not let them die. The whole point is to keep your character alive as long as possible. It'd be stupid to be able to die and just respawn over and over in a survival game. It's okay because that's been apart of the game since before it launched. It's the way the game was designed and if you don't like that part of the design then don't buy the game. It's that simple.
VibratingDonkey
Member
I fully expect it to go F2P at some point. Maybe when DayZ is about to be released. Opportunistic supercynical piece of shit game that it is.
Piercedveil
Member
I thought it was great also lol. His rants are always pretty good.
But you can do exactly that... By paying for it with real money.
I still wouldn't think it's acceptable, but my complaints would be kinda invalidated by the fact I didn't paid for the game. So yeah, I mostly agree with you. It's inexcusable in a paid game.
Yeah, of course I shouldn't have let them die, thank you very much for explaining to me the objective of the game. That useful piece of advice still doesn't solve the problem that in the undesirable case that I die, I'm being set an artificial respawn timer, and if I want to skip it I need to give them more money.
If it's stupid to die and be able to respawn, then there shouldn't be a normal mode where respawning is possible. But there is, and players are being set up arbitrary barriers in order to make them spend extra cash. If that's not shady and scummy, then I don't know what is.
Diablohead
Member
charging for a quick respawn after paying for the game is just bad, if the title was completely free it might be ok, but paying for respawning in anything seems wrong to me, there are so many other ways of earning money but then this company seems to be aiming at quick bucks now rather then later before they vanish or something.
ROBOKITTYZILLA
Member
FUCKING LOL. That is disgusting.
I got this game for 40$ a few months back after some youtube videos made it appear like it was an easier version of Dayz (or at least required less time investment.) The game is not very good, but oh well, my bad. What baffles me though, is the paid currency for the game (ie GC) only buys stuff that drops when you die. I was willing to pay a bit more to make my character look cool, but all the hats and masks are one use only. This is beyond baffling to me.
The game is buggy and borderline unplayable at time, and it's my biggest regret purchase-wise in years.
The game is buggy and borderline unplayable at time, and it's my biggest regret purchase-wise in years.
I'm dying over here laughing...
http://forums.thewarz.com/showthread.php?79251-Steam-purchase-page-issues
Yes. This is all about customer's "misinterpreting" what you put in the above screenshot and for "misreading" the information about your game's features.
http://forums.thewarz.com/showthread.php?79251-Steam-purchase-page-issues
Yes. This is all about customer's "misinterpreting" what you put in the above screenshot and for "misreading" the information about your game's features.
Once again, fuck these guys.
Although I suppose they couldn't really just say that they straight up listed features that don't exist.
KojiKnight
Member
Ah man... does these people work for Capcom? First charging for things that should be free, then blaming the people that bought their games. Classy.
Stitch
Gold Member
A Shocking Interview With The War Z Developer On False Steam Store Claims
http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/the-war-z/1226980p1.html
There's more. Man, what a moron.
http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/the-war-z/1226980p1.html
Let's be frank: when you read "up to 100 players" -- what does it mean to you personally? I mean, for me it doesn't mean that I will play with 99 other players. Really
There's more. Man, what a moron.
fizzelopeguss
Banned
Valve need to get their shit together and bury these fuckers, they've made a mockery of your platform.
Holy shit.
Wow. I thought their forum post essentially blaming their customers for "misreading" blatantly false statements they made on their Steam page was bad, but this interview takes the fucking cake.
Anyone who defends War Z's jank as being because it's in a Beta or even Alpha should stop. According to Sergey, its no longer a Beta.
Anyone who defends War Z's jank as being because it's in a Beta or even Alpha should stop. According to Sergey, its no longer a Beta.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Again I'm surprised Valve allowed a game in Beta while bypassing communnity. Of course is good money for Valve too...but seriously?.
Also I had to stop reading that interview...my rage levels was at his max.
I can't be mad at people that waste money on scams...just sad for them.
Also I had to stop reading that interview...my rage levels was at his max.
I can't be mad at people that waste money on scams...just sad for them.
I'm more "mad" about you shitposting the thread. I don't care how you spend your money.
If this is satire, it's very bad and you should be ashamed.
MoonLightWave
Member
Nah, we laugh at you.
Treemonkeys
Member
wtf does that balance other than their sever costs and bank account?
funkystudent
Member
I do really, really hope someone at Valve is looking at this and thinking about taking some kind of action.
At the very least I hope they are sending some strongly worded emails to the developers to have some cop on and at most I hope there is a debate going on about pulling the game.
Knowing how Valve work I bet they are viewing this as some kind of experiment to see how the wider steam community reacts while watching the games sales data to see if it actually effects sales or something.
This is exactly why people where so pissy about Greenlight and the lack of any formal Valve vetting process. This is a great example of the kind of shit some developers will try and pull if they get a chance.
If valve don't take action I fear it will set a precedent for the kind of dodgy BS a developer can get away with on steam.
At the very least I hope they are sending some strongly worded emails to the developers to have some cop on and at most I hope there is a debate going on about pulling the game.
Knowing how Valve work I bet they are viewing this as some kind of experiment to see how the wider steam community reacts while watching the games sales data to see if it actually effects sales or something.
This is exactly why people where so pissy about Greenlight and the lack of any formal Valve vetting process. This is a great example of the kind of shit some developers will try and pull if they get a chance.
If valve don't take action I fear it will set a precedent for the kind of dodgy BS a developer can get away with on steam.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
This is disgusting on so many levels.
But shame on Valve. Absolutely disgraceful on their end.
But shame on Valve. Absolutely disgraceful on their end.
Ya, there is really no reasonable defense. They saw it as an avenue for microtransactions and nothing more.
Valve cannot be oblivious to the complaints and such.. They have to take this game down..
darkressurection
Banned
I don't understand how this is a failing of Valve. It is a storefront, if someone had bought this game at Wal-Mart and been dissatisfied, is the onus on Wal-Mart to pull the game from shelves? I think that would have to be a call made on the publishers end.
I don't know how anyone can recover from this brutal ownage. He even managed to squeeze two shitty memes in.
Jesus. These guys have no fucking shame. No shame at all.
KojiKnight
Member
Not quite the same... If you went to walmart and paid full price for a ham, but then opened up the tin to find half a ham and an IOU and walmart refused to give you a refund...
It cheapens the Steam platform if Valve allows unfinished games to be sold through means of false advertising and lies. It isn't so much about 'not being satisfied' as it is being lied to.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
Yeah. Valve needs to get this shit off Steam. Can't imagine they will now since refunding all those sales would be a bitch. But, they fucked up letting this shit on there.
That interview...
EDIT: Hour long respawn times? What!?
That interview...
EDIT: Hour long respawn times? What!?
darkressurection
Banned
Well if Steam is refusing refunds then that is a whole different story, but I am talking specifically about the people calling for Valve to remove it from the store. Obviously I think people who bough this while it was still being falsely advertised should get their money back.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
1. Suposedly all developers that didn't have a game on Steam had to go trought Greenlight. Somehow those guys bypassed it. (unless search on Steam is broken there's only WarZ as releases)
2. Is obviously not a finished game, the game is buggy and a mess right now is still in Alpha or Beta, I don't know if there were any releases on Steam that weren't in the final version but suposedly Valve tries and teste any game on their before they put them in the storefront for quality purposes, clearly this is not the case.
Clearly Valve saw the opportunity to make money and they went with it. Which is not bad but seeing the "best company ever" image ppl have on them is quite dissapointing.
If they allow a game to be sold via their service then the burden of responsibility to make sure it's fit for purpose also lies with them. But I can definitely see them drag their feet on this considering the money they are probably racking in from it, if they even do anything.
KojiKnight
Member
No refunds right now anyways. I personally don't see a problem with selling "beta" games as long as they are clearly marked as such. Never been a fan of selling items in a beta game... that seems pretty janky.
darkressurection
Banned
If I am not mistaken people have also said that these guys did War Inc, which is a free to play that is (was?) on Steam, so I am sure that is how they bypassed Greenlight.
And again, I am not trying to say that Valve is the best company ever and many people have cited poor customer service at times with Steam stuff in particular. I just think that people who are mad should be mad at the devs and publisher who thought it would be a good idea to write a series of lies for the store page.