I don't hold much hope that that's going to be the case this time, not to the extent that it was during this generation. Call me cynical, but I'd wager that new IP push is going to be replaced with the usual mantra of less risk taking sooner than we'd all like.
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[Eurogamer\DF] Orbis Unmasked: what to expect from the next-gen PlayStation.
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I don't hold much hope that that's going to be the case this time, not to the extent that it was during this generation. Call me cynical, but I'd wager that new IP push is going to be replaced with the usual mantra of less risk taking sooner than we'd all like.
At the expense of worse textures and flatter lighting effects.
And Sony is also pushing TVs.
3D, 4K, advanced motion control gaming.
Hell GT5 was pushing more Sony stuff than any other PS3 title.
We really can't go off what we see in rumors. At E3, all intents will be clear.
That's why I'm not getting my hopes up completely. I don't think there is a lot of "wiggle" room for New IP's that won't in some way be an instant hit. At least in the AAA space.
James Sawyer Ford
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This post is ridiculous.
Do I need to remind you that the PS4's rumored specs are around 10X that of the PS3 currently?
And PS3 produced Uncharted 2 & 3.
Agni's Philosophy will easily be exceeded on PS4 by Sony's own studios.
There are already three new IPs announced for next gen and the consoles haven't even been announced - Ryse (technically new, definitely next gen), Watch Dogs, and 1313. You're going to see a LOT of new IP at E3 this year. I would go so far as to say 50 percent? Maybe more?
You'll also see some pretty major reboots. There was another one of those off the show floor at last year's E3.
dude quote those pics...
It's not that far off in characters.
One is realtime the other one isn't...
You can bet that virtually every second team at Sony (1st/2nd) is working on a new IP: Sucker Punch, Guerilla, SSM, Quantic, and more. Microsoft seems to want to deliver a new experience through Black Tusk and others.
Chuck Norris
Banned
Euro gamer seemed to be guessing based on the GPU
Here is the list of potential next gen titles that we might see at E3
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=507833&highlight=
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=507833&highlight=
That's what I was thinking. Same deal with UE4.
But then what's all this talk of a 7970M? Again, I'm under the impression that it's about as powerful as a 7870, and that doesn't even come close to a GTX 680, which is what's needed to run Agni's at 1080p/60fps?
Again, correct me if I'm wrong. I'm not really a tech expert.
Forceatowulf
G***n S**n*bi
Sooo.. are games like Crysis 3 going to be easily achievable on these machines, or what?
People guessing the specs and making assumptions. Nothing out of the ordinary.
And nobody under NDA will reveal the real specs... Not yet at least.
They're not even in the same ballpark anyway. Polycount in the beard alone is probably higher than the entire scene in the second one.
Easily and at launch.
Naughty Gods or Guerilla can trump that if the Orbis specs are true.
Pretty sure it's real because it comes from a part where that should be Drake,but is using an unlocked character.
Agreed. That's why many people here assume BF4 will be cross-generational with the next-gen versions being more similar to the PC version.
I want new IP from ND, game set in Blade Runner like universe...
googleplex
Member
It's been speculated that the PS4 will have a "lite" version of the OS while the game is running and a larger 1gb OS outside if games. Simular to what the Vita does.
Forceatowulf
G***n S**n*bi
Wat? I don't remember either Uncharted 2 or 3 having this image quality.
Unless I was watching a video file.
dragonflys545
Member
One is an actual game, the other is a showcase.
Still cutscenes... Now we're just arguing semantics.
Then why did you ask?
e: actually I can't tell if the guy is saying "ooh", "no" or "pwned"..? The nodding then shaking doesn't help either.
I could be wrong
Had to dig through to find the same screen which I thought was the same.http://i.imgur.com/aZCLb.jpg
Beerman462
Member
I'm leaning towards Sony this gen. I can't wait to see what they both produce.
I could be wrong
http://i.imgur.com/aZCLb.jpg
Wow. I really need to replay this again.
Drake's model is the only model in the video files that is the same as in game.
I am too simply because Sony has so many first-party studios that can blow my mind. I'll get the Xbox at some point down the road but it's easier to justify the purchase when there's a lot of a exclusives I like. I seem to be a PC/PS3 person plus both handhelds and the Wii U will be mine a few years later once Zelda and shit is out.
It's good to be a gamer. It's bad to be a broke gamer with no change in my future for a while. I need to find a place to work from home for my crippled ass...lol
A lot of people here seem to underestimate the power of CLOSED systems. It might not have a 680 in it, but you'd be surprised what they'll get out of the PS4. I mean, look at God of War and The Last of Us this year on the PS3 and just think what the PS4 has in store for us.
What we need are not ceilings but benchmarks.
Benchmarks as to show how close to the ceilings we get. And on console, we will only get benchmarks via games.
I did wonder why the few next gen games we saw at e3 used a GTX680. At the time I thought it was because it was the best graphic card on the market.
Benchmarks as to show how close to the ceilings we get. And on console, we will only get benchmarks via games.
I did wonder why the few next gen games we saw at e3 used a GTX680. At the time I thought it was because it was the best graphic card on the market.
lol thanks.
LIttle more interested in GG new IP that is rumored to be an RPG.
Antiochus
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If one targets sub 720/900p with no antialiasing, tessellation, or other dynamic options at 30-40 fps, then yes.
The same applies for Agni's Philosophy and Samartian Demos. They will NOT be at the same level as what we saw in the videos last year, neither in frames nor graphical quality.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
That´s pretty clever actually.
Or just use the same PPAA for Crysis 3 on PC that frees up performance.
You're really low balling the work Crytek is optimizing for next gen, which will be the baseline, not benchmark going forward.
alexandros
Banned
Absolutely.
XBOX360 has 512mb total, and it did fine, even with all those ads. lol
Honestly I've been wondering about this myself.
I'm not talking about cross game chat specifically. What if there is another feature that blows up and becomes popular which requires more hardware requirements?
EDIT: To clarify, I am not talking about cross game chat specifically. What if some crazy feature, lets say streaming, becomes an option on Durango. I'd love to do that on my PS4, but could it do it? Sony couldn't include cross game chat because of hardware limitations, I am asking if that would happen again in the future.
Right. Some weird media feature, I'm sure. If the initial footprint of the OS is small, yet satisfies what you want the PS4 to launch with -- then it might not be such a concern.
512 will be plenty in my opinion. The OS just has to perform its core functions and have as few bloatware as possible. And besides, that's just the RAM limit, not the storage limit.
It's not that far off in characters.
Not even close.
gundamkyoukai
Member
When it comes to running Agni's Philosophy i don't think that is out of reach can't talk for Crysis 3.
Reading about the the demo it was very unoptimized and was running on a i7 3770K @3.5 GHz ( but did not need it since the CPU usage was really low)
The GPU was a GTX 680 but it was only using 1.8 GB of VRAM @60fps with 8x MSAA + FXAA + Depth of Field for AA ( you can cut down on that )
Yes the PC had a extra 32GB RAM but that was also running the editor software simultaneously .
EDIT looking back at the thread i was wishing for 4GB of GDDR5 i guess it happen .
look at the Vita with its puny 256mb ram
Crisis 3.. Ish?Am I the only one that can't get excited over this technical mumbo jumbo? Anyone able to tell me in basic terms.
Whether it be pictures/footage of the graphics or something!
Much appreciated.