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[Eurogamer\DF] Orbis Unmasked: what to expect from the next-gen PlayStation.
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Can Crusher
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Chuck Norris
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That was DF speculation I'm guessing, based on how they worded it
Nizz
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I'm dead set on getting a PS4 and this latest news just gets me even more excited.
Lambda Pie
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i would be happy with that. get it running at 1080p, a stable 30fps framerate and i'm in.
Mikey Jr.
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I think we are getting diminishing returns on graphics.
Lambda Pie
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really? models, textures and lightning already look a step ahead of current gen. i'll assume it's running on a high-spec PC, correct?
Look carefully at the rocks.
shinobi602
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I just see it as common sense. I don't mean offense, just the way I see it personally.
Kazuma Kiryu
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it looks pretty average, and something i would expect from ps360 in 2013.
Lambda Pie
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yeah, rocks are kinda angular, and muddy. still, looks good.
shinobi602
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I never said they will be on top no matter what, I said I don't think they will allow a huge discrepancy between their console and Sony's.
PopcornMegaphone
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wrong post.
Man, why the low standards?
Lambda Pie
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shinobi602
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I'm sure there will still be more than enough "gamey" games for you.
les papillons sexuels
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It'll be interesting to see what happens. I think it's safe to say that we'll have more of this generation where each console is pretty much the same performance wise.
Chuck Norris
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Well it sounded like it to me. "They will make sure they're neck and neck with Sony, if not outright surpassing them." I agree there won't be a huge discrepancy, but the strongest system could go either way - both companies want to have the superior product.
les papillons sexuels
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well, yeah, I mean it's always bound to get closer then before, I'd even argue that the wii-u to ps4/720 is probably going to be a smaller gap then the one between wii and ps3/360. Diminishing returns and all that.
toddhunter
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I really struggle to follow all this. Am I right in thinking:
* PS4 and 720 will be pretty much the same performance wise.
* The 720 will have kinect 2, the PS4 a Vita like controller for WiiU type playing.
And then speculating:
* In theory the PS4 should perform better because of the RAM and this magic chip (BC?) but we don't really know at this stage what the 720 has and even if it has nothing special Sony will no doubt screw it up somewhere else?
* PS4 and 720 will be pretty much the same performance wise.
* The 720 will have kinect 2, the PS4 a Vita like controller for WiiU type playing.
And then speculating:
* In theory the PS4 should perform better because of the RAM and this magic chip (BC?) but we don't really know at this stage what the 720 has and even if it has nothing special Sony will no doubt screw it up somewhere else?
LMAO where is this from?
les papillons sexuels
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in theory we dont know because we dont know the gpu architecture on MS's chip and the article states that the 360 is using hardware specific solutions as well, as for the ram I think the edram, if large enough, coupled with more ram in general will be more benefitial in the long run then having the faster ram, much like the current 360 vs ps3 debate.
I seriously doubt the PS4 controller will be a tablet like controller. My guess is a tiny ass screen or a track pad (like the one in vita)
Lord Error
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Every time any of these supposed big improvement come around, they compete with the older technology that was already figured out and maxed out through various optimizations, and things end up being maybe 50% better, which is business as usual for iterative yearly updates anyway. It's not worth waiting IMO, as the year after that, things would get 50% faster again and so on.
As for the voxel lighting, if true, you can bet anything that consoles are not the reason they are removing that. Rather, the reason is probably because it's not quite ready and they have to release the engine. Otherwise it would be in, and used on future high end PC configurations.
Unless we see this on GAF:
"Devs struggle with RAM amounts in Durango/Orbis. One Anonymous Dev calls it a "hassle".
And we haven't at all. You have nothing to worry about.
toddhunter
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yeah, I don't mean a tablet, I mean literally a handheld like a Vita. The Wii U part is taking your game you are playing and continuing to play on the controller screen.
Gemüsepizza
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It's from a German comedy show.
shinobi602
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Oh shit. I thought that was real at first.
The polygon edges on the chair gave it away.
bigboss370
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my desire for a long time now has been to finally have hardware that can do realistic, full on destruction physics in an urban open world. a game with a metropolitan city that can be reduced to rubble if you wanted. when that happens i know we've made a significant leap.
"Ray tracing is and always will be the future of computer graphics "
By history: Microsoft.
If Sony has their shit together like they did for Vita: It would be a tie.
Chuck Norris
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PS3 RAM and 360 RAM has a minuscule difference without eDRAM. Not really comparable situations at all.
Death Dealer
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Wow so the same 8 Jaguar cores as Xbox huh ?
The special compute chip sounds interesting. I wonder what other secret sauce it might have? The 1.8TF 18CU GPU is what I've expected all along. And it's nice to hear confirmation of 4GB GDDR-5. And good news if the OS only reserves 512mb. That should be plenty.
The special compute chip sounds interesting. I wonder what other secret sauce it might have? The 1.8TF 18CU GPU is what I've expected all along. And it's nice to hear confirmation of 4GB GDDR-5. And good news if the OS only reserves 512mb. That should be plenty.
shinobi602
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There's a point where games can become too realistic but I doubt that we're ever going to go that far.
bigboss370
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I don't see why Watch Dogs couldn't be.
Yea, Microsoft was on point this gen. Sony would be wise to study up and build off of the Vita like you said.
shinobi602
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Yes.
Nizz
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games built from the ground up on these platforms a few years down the line will murder it, hell crysis 4 will on these consoles.
yeah well for that to happen it will have to be a pretty big design, similar to a pad. Maybe not as large but yes. I doubt it. I think it will be a small screen for menu navigation and the such and nothing more. The biometric part is the catch I think. I doubt they would want to make it any more costlier than they have to