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The Black Culture Thread |OT2|
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I'm white, but my grandpa spanked me once with a switch, and he did it so bad that I never acted up again. Even when he died, I never acted out because god knows what my dad would do if I crossed that line. I eventually grew up and just didn't do bad shit because I didn't want to disappoint my parents.
I had heard stories about my grandpa in the past though. Grabbing my brothers by the ears during church, spanking someone with a wallet(yep), and one time my cousin shot him accidentally with a b.b. gun that he wasn't even supposed to have, and my grandpa chased him throughout the neighborhood for a whole day.
I had heard stories about my grandpa in the past though. Grabbing my brothers by the ears during church, spanking someone with a wallet(yep), and one time my cousin shot him accidentally with a b.b. gun that he wasn't even supposed to have, and my grandpa chased him throughout the neighborhood for a whole day.
Devolution
Member
I've seen all kinds of kids treat their parents like shit whether spankings, beatings took place or not. If you can't instill in a kid to listen to you and use their fucking brain early on then the kid won't. I noticed the kids who treated their parents with the most disdain were spoiled though for sure.
This is some next level shit right here.
My ass got beat good when I was a kid. It was all about the belt. Wouldn't leave a mark, but man did those 3 minutes hurt like hell.
Damn bruh, my Pops is 6'3, muscular, and heavy handed as a motherfucker, and he never drew blood or fractured bones. That's crazy...
And I don't think I've ever met anyone with any lasting psychological effects from getting beat as a kid. If anything, we all just joke about it when we're older. That's why our white brethren need to start throwin' down on their children, cause whenever my group of friends start reminiscing about it, my white friends look more clueless than I do in a conversation about Country music.
MorisUkunRasik
Member
I don't think it's as simple as hitting=bad parent, not hitting=good parent or vice versa. There's a lot more to it than that.
From what I've read parents who hit aren't good because of it, usually it's in spite of it.
From what I've read parents who hit aren't good because of it, usually it's in spite of it.
Yeah this one is just straight up assault/abuse
Devolution
Member
It's like you don't even know white people. Plenty of white kids get smacked around, especially ones lower on the socioeconomic ladder. Your ignorance is showing.
That's how anti ass whoopin' people always frame it though. They always exaggerate the actual ass whoopin' process, making it seem more like straight up assault than an innocent ass whooping. And they always assume that the ass whooping is front and center, and the only form of punishment dished out, instead of a complimentary tool.
pump the brakes dude
just because you never saw someone have a mental breakdown over some shit, doesn't mean they're a-ok.
its not a black/white thing either
MorisUkunRasik
Member
I think it'd be difficult as hell to make that claim.
Bruce Lee Kicks
Member
Same here. You ever get that extension cord whooping?
Devolution
Member
My father only got spankings and no hugs from his father. He has deeply ingrained intimacy issues that my mom had to break down and she mentioned this to me in confidence a couple years ago. So I hug him whenever I'm there now. And I know he misses me.
I know plenty of white people. My mom is white. I am half white. Half of my family is white. A shit ton of my friends are white. I've had white girlfriends. My college was mostly white, and as a result, most of my college friends are white. I currently live in an all white neighborhood. You're taking an obvious joke way too seriously (I'm not going to use the term "white brethren" in a serious post), and I'm not exactly sure how you can throw out accusations of ignorance about specific races given that your comments on Asians and beatings was every bit as anecdotal and over encompassing.
TheKaeptain
Banned
My white father spanked the shit out of me all the time when I was a kid.
Devolution
Member
I didn't say all asians do X, I said my asian friends specifically. You however are blanketing all white people based on your friends. Did you see me extrapolating on the rest of the asian population based on my 3 friends? No. Try again.
MorisUkunRasik
Member
Yes.
In the 3rd grade while waiting for class to start a female classmate of mine walked in sniveling. I was taken back that her mom was dumb enough to bring the pain so soon before school....then I glanced down and her legs were covered in welts. She got the phone cord just before school, the teacher called the police the moment she saw. Even as a kid who was familar with getting hit, her legs were on a whole different level.
Bruce Lee Kicks
Member
That extension cord was no joke. First time I got a 'B' on one of my assignments, my mama let me have it. Straight had me Indian dancing.
My dad would make us go get 'the belt', and we knew which one he was talking about. He was the more reserved parent. My mom would just start spanking with her hand. There was no waiting, she just started whoopin' that ass. :lol
But we both stopped getting spanked early on. I don't remember exactly when, but definitely by middle school. Never had any injuries. Just sore bottoms, and hurt pride. :lol
The wife & I spank our daughter, but only as a last resort. It's rare, but it happens. She straightens right up.
Much, much easier said than done, especially at certain ages. Do you have a kid?
But we both stopped getting spanked early on. I don't remember exactly when, but definitely by middle school. Never had any injuries. Just sore bottoms, and hurt pride. :lol
The wife & I spank our daughter, but only as a last resort. It's rare, but it happens. She straightens right up.
Much, much easier said than done, especially at certain ages. Do you have a kid?
Devolution
Member
I didn't say it was easy.
Spring-Loaded
Member
Has anyone who had/has white friends never heard any of them say an unsolicited racist comment/joke?
MorisUkunRasik
Member
I have 1 white friend. I realized this the other day, and I haven't seen in him in a couple years.
I have heard white classmates in highschool say some racist shit just cause.
short from singing rap lyrics, i have a friend who doesnt. he was called out by another friend for singing lyrics from the chronic, and hasnt even tried to go there. other said friend was a complete fucking asshole, and i put him on the spot for checking people like that
TheKaeptain
Banned
Not really. All my mexican friends are super racist.
Man. One of my dad's old belts has marks on it from my older brother's skin. That's about the extent of it for my family. My dad softened up by the time I entered my teens.
I've felt the temptation at least once though to whoop a couple of my cousins I've been put in charge of from time to time. They weren't little either, they were 17. Luckily just the motion of removing my belt was enough.
I've felt the temptation at least once though to whoop a couple of my cousins I've been put in charge of from time to time. They weren't little either, they were 17. Luckily just the motion of removing my belt was enough.
Alligatorjandro
Banned
I dont think I would spank my kids.
If you really want to hurt them take away things they like.
If you really want to hurt them take away things they like.
Only very few of white people I have called friends have come off with some stuff like that. They didn't know I could hear them though, and we don't hang out anymore. Then again, I'm very 'friend' choosy. I think all of my friends would have to know that shit wasn't cool, and "It was just a joke" would not cut it.
Having PS1 taken away for a month was far worse to me than getting smacked for 3 minutes.
We're talking anecdotes, and I obviously can't delve deep into peoples souls. But I've had fairly heart felt discussions regarding the subject with friends, and in several classes, and people were open as fuck regarding the issues. You're correct in saying that I obviously can't know for sure, and I'm well aware of the fact that beatings can and will leave an emotional scar, you'd be stupid not too, but I'm talking about an ass whooping. Hand to ass, stings during the process, but not afterwards. No marks or lasting effects. An ass whooping.
And it's obviously not black and white, but I don't think it's incorrect to say that there's a noticeable racial divide when it comes to physical punishment and parenting. And few things in society are black/white things anyways. It's simply more likely and less likely depending on cultural background, nothing more. Black people are more likely than white people to get arrested for drug use. That's not to say that getting arrested for drugs is an exclusively black issue, but they are more likely to be. It's not a black/white issue considering whites are arrested as well, and can also be unfairly targeted or harassed by the police for the same things, but it can be discussed as such for the sake of conversation since it's makes things infinitely easier to discuss.
And a lot of it does in fact stem from economics, I never said there wasn't, but as I've said before, there's a more than noticeable racial component to it as well.
Do you have similar feelings when you hear comedians make the same exact joke time and time again? It's a joke, and my apologies if it came off as anythign but. I've made tons of arguments on this forum, and if you're familiar with my posting style, you'd know that a post of mine containing "White Brethren" and me being clueless within a conversation about Country music (a reference to a post I made here on Friday) is anything but serious. I apologize if you were offended, or believe my views to honestly be that pedestrian and blanketing, but it was little more than a light-hearted jab from anecdotes drawn from my personal life.
And my comment was in regards to my friends, considering the fact that the comment in question was "whenever my group of friends start reminiscing about it, my white friends look more clueless than I do in a conversation about Country music."
lol aite whatever man
Don't be mad when people come at you on a blanket statement when there wasn't even anything obviously hahafunny in your posts to begin with.
Don't be mad when people come at you on a blanket statement when there wasn't even anything obviously hahafunny in your posts to begin with.
That doesn't do shit for many. Plenty of kids and even grown individuals just stop giving a fuck. Compounds the problem.
Yep. Or shutting off the internet.
Alligatorjandro
Banned
Some just can't be fixed no matter the discipline.
Bruce Lee Kicks
Member
I can never bring myself to outright whoop my niece, but I will swat her from time to time. I don't think she understands the point of a punishment yet, cause she'll sit up and ask me for whatever I take away all day.
MorisUkunRasik
Member
My brother and cousins were fucked regardless of punishment. Hit, taking belongings away, incentives and so on did nothing.
My mom offered to buy my brother a new car if he graduated......highschool. Of course he didn't, but he has tons of issues that my parents weren't aware of at the time.
Sucked for me at the time seeing him bribed to get straight Ds for a car when I was pulling a 4.0 and getting nothing but 'yup, he's still smart carry on'
.I stopped getting whippings when I was like...9, I think. But that was mainly cause I spent most of my childhood in my room playing video games so my mom never had a reason to really go HAM on me.
My older sister apparently got it bad, and my mom always said she didn't want to hit me or my younger sister because thinking back on it, she wasn't proud of how she treated the oldest. She was afraid she'd really hurt one of us over some petty shit like not washing the dishes (my mom is a serious neat freak) or something.
I've often wondered if I or my sister would be more disciplined if we had gotten beat more. I know for me, I can't imagine I would have responded to that kind of rearing well. Probably would have grown up thinking my mom hates me or some shit lol.
As for if I'm for spanking in general, it's fine if combined with other forms of punishment. That said, I don't think parents who never beat their kids are better or worse than those who do. Neither method is really fool-proof, and fucked up kids/people have come from both types of households.
What I'm saying is, I'm damn glad I don't have kids so I don't have to think about this for a while. Ha.
My older sister apparently got it bad, and my mom always said she didn't want to hit me or my younger sister because thinking back on it, she wasn't proud of how she treated the oldest. She was afraid she'd really hurt one of us over some petty shit like not washing the dishes (my mom is a serious neat freak) or something.
I've often wondered if I or my sister would be more disciplined if we had gotten beat more. I know for me, I can't imagine I would have responded to that kind of rearing well. Probably would have grown up thinking my mom hates me or some shit lol.
As for if I'm for spanking in general, it's fine if combined with other forms of punishment. That said, I don't think parents who never beat their kids are better or worse than those who do. Neither method is really fool-proof, and fucked up kids/people have come from both types of households.
What I'm saying is, I'm damn glad I don't have kids so I don't have to think about this for a while. Ha.
I don't know about you guys but spankings weren't the extent of my punishment. It's no like I was spanked and then went on my merry way. I got spanked, yelled at, grounded and had my shit taken away. That's what I mean when I say spanking is a complimentary tool. It shouldn't be the first thing a parent does, or even the second thing. But when talking to your kid, grounding him or taking their stuff away doesn't work, then I don't see the issue in a spanking.
Thats the wrong approach entirely. My mom eventually found something that worked.
Dad took away my ps1 and that same week I found out I had a 40 inch vert and ran a 4.4. Now I'm acting a different kind of fool. What next? Don't just give up. Thats always the wrong answer.
He probably take away your 360 after watching you play Star Ocean 4.
FreeMufasa
Junior Member
We called those 9-3s.
We'd get a day off school and my mum would take a day off work. Whoopin all day
You had to really fuck up to get this though. Like blabbing bout family secrets .
It differs depending on what it is or how much said item is attached to them, it sure enough worked when I took my 3ds from one of my daughters. One thing I don't like from parents are the one's who give up if something doesn't work like its the end of the world for their child.
Haha seems you understand, you'll make a very good father someday DY.
Bruce Lee Kicks
Member
Right. I remember being the tough kid that decided I wouldn't cry anymore. My mama said, "Aw alright," and pawned my PS2. I don't think I've ever felt as bad as I did then, smh.
i am a full believer of whooping a kids ass.
i just take it as part of having a white friend. the law of averages.
i just take it as part of having a white friend. the law of averages.
I'm sorry that you were abused, no child deserves that and it's an absolute travesty that it happened to you. But you were abused, and while plenty of people may not agree with me, I believe there is a stark difference between a spanking and flat out abuse. Your parents beat you in such a way where you felt physical pain for a week, that is clear cut abuse and you're justified in your contempt for your parents.
Coming off of this discussion about blanketing statements, I think it's also important not to deal in extremes. There's a such thing as a spectrum. A spanking to the ass is not equivalent to outright physical assault, and I feel it does a disservice to the debate when one tries to classify it as such.
A lot of the comments, terminology and ways I've phrased stuff thus far regarding the subject has been sarcastic and in jest. If you want to have a civil debate about the subject, free of joking, then I am more than willing to.
MorisUkunRasik
Member
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Not when his current kid aint seeing any of that cake DY's making he wont