I'm not so sure about the playable character part...MAYBE she was, and I'm definitely interested in learning, but that SD art may just have been for the art her special sprite got.
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Videogame facts that blow your mind (SuperMarioBros. SHOCKING SECRET INSIDE p #70)
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I'm not so sure about the playable character part...MAYBE she was, and I'm definitely interested in learning, but that SD art may just have been for the art her special sprite got.
Thanks !
It all makes sense now
Not enoght to remember a 20 second character after all these years xD
It all makes sense now
Not enoght to remember a 20 second character after all these years xD
EightBitNate
Member
It all makes sense to me.
RPG Wizard
Member
She's not. Unless everyone from Pandora are elves, and in fact Angela from SD3 is an elf, pointed ears aren't indicative of elfhood in the Mana-verse. Angela clearly has pointed ears in her Magus official art, and interestingly enough, Carlie, who is a known half-elf, does not have visible ears at all.
I believe Phanna may have pointed ears, but her ears are covered in the official art, and her sprite has protruding, but not necessarily pointed ears.
Additionally, I'm pretty sure it's implied that the girl aged normally in Pandora along with Dyluck and Phanna, whereas Carlie ages incredibly slowly.
"Elf" does not instantly mean "Has every trait ascribed to Elves via the various sources like DnD or LOTR".
Like Final Fantasy, Mana just draws various influences from mythology and puts their own spin on it as necessary. Obviously the elves of SD3 had some longevity. This is waaaaaaay later.
You could argue that the elf bloodline from the SD3 prequel has been watered down so that ears are one of the only traits left. There's nothing contradicting this, and in fact it makes great sense since it would explain where the Elves went in the interim.
So I say "elf" as in "pointed ear magic user."
RPG Wizard
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You didn't address Angela having pointed ears at all. She does not have retarded aging like Carlie, but has pointed ears and is in the same game, so no diluted bloodline argument. Additionally, her magic capability is peculiar to say the least. I disagree about the girl of SoM having elven heritage unless you have something more substantial than pointed ears, or have a decent expiation for Angela having pointed ears.
Because otherwise she could just be of Altean (refugee) lineage. Just as feasible, and still has pointed ears and non-retarded aging.
I suppose you could do some hand waving with the claim that Altean is a lineage greatly descended from elves so far along that the lineage is no longer suffering from slowed aging, but that's a reach.
Additionally, I don't see why you're making an assumption that I'm making any comparisons to Tolkien/D&D elves. I only indicated the facts that are known from the games.
Edit: Also, in using "elf" for any pointed-eared magic user, it kind of disregards that there is an actual elf race in canon. I mean, I agree that they disappeared with no explanation, but claiming that the girl is a descendent is a reach, in my opinion.
SuperAngelo64
Banned
I am currently collecting a ton of FF trivia.
Here's a neat one, credit to the FFwiki:
She actually has a face and design! By Nomura!
I'd actually like to see the design sheets Nomura did for all the characters.
The full body art is very FF7-era.
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
I always wondered why Gamecube was abbreviated as GCN (Gamecube Nintendo), instead of NGC (Nintendo Game Cube), but then I just found out that in Japan, it's abbreviated as NGC.
Why the change for North America? The N being at the end bothers me immensely...was NGC already taken?
Why the change for North America? The N being at the end bothers me immensely...was NGC already taken?
NeoGeo Pocket Color?
National Geographic Channel. Or at least that's what I remember people saying.
Well that or Nintendo really was impressed by Mike Jones.
Dr Zhivago
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The story I heard was that in some context 'NG' meant 'no good', so NGC = 'no good cube'. :S
Stabby McSter
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I'm pretty sure this is the answer.
NinjaMouse
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Actually, that was Slim Thug's lyric... ;-)
randomlyrossy
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Why? Surely that'd be NGPC or NPC?
NOA and NCL were apparently having heated debates about the naming of the GameCube. After the prototype name "Dolphin", NCL decided to call it the "StarCube" (becuase it was almost a cube) but then NOA told NCL that the name was uncool and that it wouldn't fly in America, so they tried again and settled on GameCube.
NCL (possibly Iwata, with his growing-but-incomplete power) decided that Nintendo should stop using the "Nintendo" brand because it was starting to pick up baggage and weigh Nintendo down, and even if it wasn't an anchor yet, they were going to wear it out by abusing it, so "Game___" should become a company-wide brand, since they were already building that with GameBoy, and it was really strong with no signs of wearing out.
NOA liked "GameCube", so they took out a trademark on "NGC". There were already a number of other "NGC's", but none of them were in competing fields. Neo Geo had no claim on NGC. If you're don't get into fights with each other, multiple parties are allowed to trademark the same acronym. The only reason the World Wildlife Fund and World Wresting Federation couldn't coexist was because they got into a fight over who should be allowed to have wwf.com.
But then NCL protested that it should be just GameCube, not Nintendo GameCube. They should drop the "N" from "NGC". NOA thought the idea of abandoning the "Nintendo" brand was crazy, so they fought that idea, and eventually came to the compromise of "de-emphasizing" the "N" by moving it to the back of the line, and it became "GCN". It does mean GameCube Nintendo. Embrace it's awesomeness. NOA willingly allowed their trademark on "NGC" to expire. It's dead now, but it was alive when people first started asking about this stuff.
After everything was settled, NCL apparently decided that "NGC" was just fine, and they kind of liked it, so they went with that (possibly due to Iwata's incomplete power).
After GameCube failed to expand "Game___" into a reliable brand for consoles, Iwata successfully dropped the "Nintendo" brand for consoles and replaced it with "Wii", and also indirectly dropped "Game___" for handhelds too, because the GameBoy brand was considered too strong to risk attaching to the DS.
Duane Cunningham
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Heh. Kind of like people who never could drop "Ultra 64"
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
Wow, thanks for the post Cherilee.
I like to imagine this was a literal wrestling match, and the World Wildlife Fund trained Pandas to wrestle so they'd win.
I like to imagine this was a literal wrestling match, and the World Wildlife Fund trained Pandas to wrestle so they'd win.
Professor Beef
Banned
The funny...well, sad...thing is that I think all Vince McMahon had to do was pay a fine and things would've been ok regarding the usage of "WWF," but he went in the other direction and changed to "WWE," which kinda fucked up their archival footage on DVDs and such so they had to be blurred out at spots.
And that's how Tekken was born.
boutrosinit
Street Fighter IV World Champion
That was the final name in Europe I believe. Possibly Japan. Can't remember.
You can't remember because it's imaginary information.
Neither. It was Nintendo 64 everywhere.
Well, except China where it was the iQue Player...
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
The iQue Player and Nintendo 64 consoles are completely different, even if they do play most of the same games.
Ha ha. Awesome.
Great Tiger's 'Tiger robe' has the same eyes as Piston Honda....
Um, very interested!
The Hermit
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tauroxd
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Wow, thanks!
The reason why Super Metroid is fun to watch be broken is because the game has lots of soft gating as opposed to hard gating, allowing skilled players to easily get to places they shouldn't and sequence break.
Carnby
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Uncharted 3 has a character named Charlie Cutter. Rob Zombie's The Devil's Rejects has two brothers named Charlie Altamont and James Cutter (a.k.a.Captain Spaulding). Coincidence?
GayForMaster
Banned
What the fuck...
Skyfireblaze
Member
Oh my god... A Link to the Past... the memories in my head... it was all based on a lie
Dear god I feel stupid now xDBocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I can't even see Agahnim like how you seem to have seen him all these years... the version that it's trying to point out seems to me the obvious view of the sprite.
Great Tiger's 'Tiger robe' has the same eyes as Piston Honda....
So he truly has the "Eye of the Tiger".
Hypereides
Member
I am currently collecting a ton of FF trivia.
Here's a neat one, credit to the FFwiki:
She actually has a face and design! By Nomura!
Shiiiieet. Back when Nomura actually had style and was good at drawing.
But the illustration looked absolutely nothing like the sprite. Like... At all.
He also had blue skin, and it's debatable whether the sprite has an obscured face. A guy with a gown and hat is an incredibly broad description that fits practically every magic-user video game sprite ever. I grant it's closer than, say, saying Guile is a valid sprite interpretation of artwork of Ken because they're both blond white guys in pants, but sprite Aganhim is pretty far off the mark of his artwork.
haha, a blast from the past!
Haunted
Member
well done.