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34,000 pieces of Wii U software were sold in the UK in January (incl. NintyLand)

Dead Man

Member
"Are those shipped or sold through? Wii U has no games. Nintendo is doomed. Wii U means life."

I hope these covers the jokes.

Nintendo needs to react quickly as it reacted with 3DS fumbled launch. Aggressive pricing, steady high profile software releases and an Ambassador program 2.0 perhaps.

You can't just whip out high profile swoftware releases though. Either they are in development and we have heard nothing, or they have nothing.
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
There's your problem. And PDZ wasn't a great game but it was a great demonstration of the next tier of graphical capabilities, as was Kameo.

So had I played it years ago it wouldn't have sucked? I'm not following.
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
At this point I don't think Nintendo can fo anything to turn it around in Europe, short of making a Nintendo/Sony console.
 
So had I played it years ago it wouldn't have sucked? I'm not following.

My point is there are a lot of games that you can look back on after 7 years and go "damn, that was really bad", but at the time of release for said titles, it was just a sight to behold and most didn't see or care about the bad factors of said games at the time.
 

Taker666

Member
Not surprising (in the UK at least).

Very little in-store promotion (if the store even stocks it), few demo units (I've yet to see 1 in my region), almost no advertising on tv..and what there is isn't good (in stark contrast to the 3DS,DS and Wii launch windows), UK retail charging more than they should at launch (£40-£50 more than some French retailers)..PS3's and 360's available for half the price.

The few software releases weren't marketed or were barely marketed (I saw zero ads for Sing Party..I've yet to see it in a store).I have bought games this year but only eshop ones (like The Cave).

On the flipside I use it everyday..if only because it has a superb web browser and it's the best way to watch youtube.
 
Yikes, dat attach rate. That's what happens when your console is "The Zombi U/NSMB U machine". And it doesn't look like this figure's set to improve with the Legends delay. Can't imagine Monster Hunter 3 will be massively successful in Blighty either.
 

Forkball

Member
Nintendo please don't panic and rush Smash Bros. That series deserves to have time and love poured into it, not shoved out the door like NSMB2.
 
I literally don't know a single person with one, and anyone I speak to doesn't know what it is. My brother didn't recognise the name, and when I told him it was the new console with the controller with the screen on, he thought that was a Wii peripheral. People just don't know it exists.

I wouldn't actually be surprised if some people had bought WiiU games for their Wii before returning them.
 

Haliela

Member
The Wii-U will be fine. We just saw a Nintendodirect that blew us all away not that long ago. The games are coming. Nintendo has ALWAYS been a slow burn.
 

My point is there are a lot of games that you can look back on after 7 years and go "damn, that was really bad", but at the time of release for said titles, it was just a sight to behold and most didn't see or care about the bad factors of said games at the time.

Basically this, people still brought the games because of this factor, and I'm just saying Wii U doesn't have that software right now.

Not surprising (in the UK at least).

Very little in-store promotion (if the store even stocks it), few demo units (I've yet to see 1 in my region), almost no advertising on tv..and what there is isn't good (in stark contrast to the 3DS,DS and Wii launch windows), UK retail charging more than they should at launch (£40-£50 more than some French retailers)..PS3's and 360's available for half the price.

The few software releases weren't marketed or were barely marketed (I saw zero ads for Sing Party..I've yet to see it in a store).I have bought games this year but only eshop ones (like The Cave).

On the flipside I use it everyday..if only because it has a superb web browser and it's the best way to watch youtube.
Yep went to a supermarket and the Wii U advert board was hidden behind an animal shelter food donation bin.
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Nintendo please don't panic and rush Smash Bros. That series deserves to have time and love poured into it, not shoved out the door like NSMB2.

To be totally honest, they should have rushed Smash Bros to be at launch instead of Mario.
 
Basically this, people still brought the games because of this factor, and I'm just saying Wii U doesn't have that software right now.


Yep went to a supermarket and the Wii U advert board was hidden behind an animal shelter food donation bin.

Are you meaning to saw bought? Or are you waiting for me to say "Oh, it's already been brought?"
 
I'm not sure why the "Well, it's just the UK" narrative is still being spun when Nintendo's investor briefing showed us "No. It's not just the UK."

Regarding HW, WU sales had plummeted to ~40K by week 52 of 2012 and have probably slumped even lower. This number isn't really surprising giving the installed base isn't growing much beyond the initial adopters.
 

Shion

Member
short of making a Nintendo/Sony console.
You keep talking about a Nintendo/Sony console, but what exactly is your reasoning behind this?

Nintendo (especially under Iwata's leadership) and Sony have totally different philosophies anyway.
 

crinale

Member
You keep talking about a Nintendo/Sony console, but what exactly is your reasoning behind this?

Nintendo (especially under Iwata's leadership) and Sony have totally different philosophies anyway.

Well SNES was actually made by Nintendo and Sony, so it's not that unreasonable.
But yes, that was more than 20 years ago...
 
Are you meaning to saw bought? Or are you waiting for me to say "Oh, it's already been brought?"

Sure I may have written bought wrong, but it is quite obvious you're not reading into the context of what I'm saying but instead attacking slight grammar discrepancies, I’m not purposely picking a fight with you but I’m reasoning with you that any video game hardware requires software to succeed. And anyone can see the software on the Wii U is not compelling enough, they need original games that appeal to the masses not ports from the HD twins.
 

B.O.O.M

Member
You're really blaming Vita not selling well when your WiiU is even lower in launch period?
Wonderful

Ignore him

So I did a few calculations with these figures.

Total sales Jan 2012 - 2778
Total sales Jan 2013 - 2111

Market decrease of 26%

Now let's look at the detail.

Nintendo vs non-Nintendo:

Total Nintendo platform sales in Jan 2012 - 999k
Total non-Nintendo platform sales in Jan 2012 - 1779k

Total Nintendo platform sales in Jan 2013 - 467k
Total non-Nintendo platform sales in Jan 2013 - 1644k

Nintendo YoY decrease - 53.3%
Non-Nintendo YoY decrease - 7.6%
Non-Nintendo YoY decrease consoles only - 3.5%

So, is it the UK market that's dead, or Nintendo that's dead in the UK?

I hope this myth that gaming is dead in the UK ceases to exist, it's Nintendo that are in serious decline. A new generation of consoles from Sony and MS would more than fix the current problems for their own decline.

Thank you! I was hoping someone would make this comparison and it's good to see you did it. Hopefully this will stop some of the stupid UK market is to blame nonsense

Nintendo is basically tanking in the UK. The upcoming months no note worthy software + Next gen hardware reveals by Sony and MS will make things even more brutal for them
 

JonnyBrad

Member
As a long standing Nintendo fan i can only say they deserve this. From the outright anti consumerism with the accounts still being effectively locked to the console (which is why i will never buy) to the incredibly laggy OS and the complete lack of a decent line up. It almost seems like it was doomed to fail.

I wish they would take on more ideas from competitors (proper account system, analogue triggers etc) because right now it seems like they sit in their own little bubble and release things to market that just don't seem to be right. They're 10 years behind the curve!

They could get a lot of good faith if they stop mucking around and give us a proper account based system to start with. But i see no way back for them now.

I won't be buying the Nextbox if the used game thing is true either.
 

CrunchinJelly

formerly cjelly
So I did a few calculations with these figures.

Total sales Jan 2012 - 2778
Total sales Jan 2013 - 2111

Market decrease of 26%

Now let's look at the detail.

Nintendo vs non-Nintendo:

Total Nintendo platform sales in Jan 2012 - 999k
Total non-Nintendo platform sales in Jan 2012 - 1779k

Total Nintendo platform sales in Jan 2013 - 467k
Total non-Nintendo platform sales in Jan 2013 - 1644k

Nintendo YoY decrease - 53.3%
Non-Nintendo YoY decrease - 7.6%
Non-Nintendo YoY decrease consoles only - 3.5%

So, is it the UK market that's dead, or Nintendo that's dead in the UK?

I hope this myth that gaming is dead in the UK ceases to exist, it's Nintendo that are in serious decline. A new generation of consoles from Sony and MS would more than fix the current problems for their own decline.
You know, this kind of highlights an argument I've seen a few times in sales threads; that it's not the market declining, it's just returning to normality after the one-two punch of DS and Wii.

Essentially, it's all Nintendo's fault. Wii and DS have left a gaping hole and 3DS and Wii U do not look equipped to fill it back in.
 

RPGCrazied

Member
They need to show off the first party titles already. All new mario, zelda, metroid, smash bros., if they do this it will be much better for them.
 
My point is there are a lot of games that you can look back on after 7 years and go "damn, that was really bad", but at the time of release for said titles, it was just a sight to behold and most didn't see or care about the bad factors of said games at the time.

Trust me, if you played Rare games in the 90s, you knew PDZ and Kameo sucked 7 years ago...
 

open_mouth_

insert_foot_
we're witnessing the slow (or fast?) decline of the age of dedicated gaming systems, being replaced by the Tablet, Smartphone, and PC.

Last generation was an aberration. From here on out, there probably can be only one "dominant" home console and maybe one handheld. Nintendo should release one more handheld like the Vita in a couple of years and they'll make some nice coin on that but no where near what they did with the DS/GBA.

And they should transition to being a versatile software publisher, releasing quality products on a range of platforms.
 

Dawg

Member
Not really surprised.

No marketing + calling it "Wii U" = people think it's a tablet expansion or something

The average conversation in my country about the Wii U ends up with "What's a Wii U?" "It's the successor to the Wii, like the Wii was to the Gamecube" "What's a gamecube?" "..."
 
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