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DF: Orbis vs Durango Spec Analysis
- Thread starter iamshadowlark
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phosphor112
Banned
The sauce keeps changing. It's like the T-1000 - liquid metal secret sauce
phosphor112
Banned
Lol. I just want them to announce their stuff, getting tired of the back and forth speculation.
Proelite
Member
I don't know the numbers, it could be 1/2 of a CU to 2 CUs.
2CUs would be overkill, maybe PD would do something like that for GT6.
bgassassin
Member
*shudders*
I don't know when the special sauce stuff started, but I cringe every time I hear it, haha.
fixed
phosphor112
Banned
I'm sure they'd dedicate those CU's for physics.
I coined the term "wizard jizz" it stuck for a while.
shinra-bansho
Member
Leaning towards no,highly.
SneakyStephan
Banned
Y2KEV Are you writing this shit down in your notebook of reckoning for later? After your earlier post?
Gemüsepizza
Member
It could also be 0 CUs. Why are we assuming that the PS4's DSP can not process 7.1 digital surround sound and that the GPU (!) has to help, when it would be much easier to just use a slightly better DSP (costs probably negligible). This just seems like a new, silly attempt of damage control, sorry.
Sony's CTO mentioned a DSP and additional programmable logic when referring to the PS4's hardware.
phosphor112
Banned
Yes, not a single console they've released had problems or "lacked" in sound. PS3 supported every sound protocol out there, including 7.1 LCPM. The cell was very capable of processing that.
Proelite
Member
Oh please do. I welcome it.
O_O
Glorified G
Member
Hopefully he didn't write down your earlier bullshit or you would be really in trouble.
Angelus Errare
Banned
Shit is going down.
Basement.
Basement.
Proelite
Member
What about Orbis' Audio Processor (ACP)? It also has one built in. Surely that plays a similar role to Durango's audio chip?
I hope with the current popularity of gaming headsets, that someone will bring back HRTF. Because that was freaking amazing 12 years ago when Aureal sound cards did it, and it's sad that the audio industry still hasn't managed to bring that back at a consumer level as far as I'm aware.
Strange that more Durango leaks are starting to spill out before the PS4 reveal.
Almost intentional.
I think it's strange that we haven't gotten more in depth information from VGleaks regarding Orbis.
Maybe everything about Orbis is already revealed? Highly doubt Sony will change anything hardware wise.
Well....as far as I can tell, these "leaks" are from Microsoft employee's lol (Proelite anyway). Not sure if that changes how accurate the claims/leaks are mind.
I do find it strange that Orbis' audio chip is completely overlooked though, even though it is there directly in the leaked specs. Either Microsoft has an audio chip that is vastly different, or the same thing in Orbis has just been overlooked. Conveniently...
It looks like, after decades in the business that Sony has forgot that shit needs sound.
Codeblew
Member
Wait, we can get banned for bullshitting?
News to me.
You probably have less room to wiggle around when you claim to be an insider. All of your posts seem to be damage control oriented.
I was hoping for some actual information about it's custom bits and bobs.
Proelite
Member
bgassassin
Member
I'm going to summarize what I know with regards to Xbox 3.
VGLeaks info has been accurate due to what the info is coming from.
- Always online/internet connection required
- No used games
- No BC
- CPU has increased performance over normal Jaguar cores.
- ~3GB and 2 CPU cores are reserved for the OS, apps, Kinect, etc.
- Xbox has a crazy (IMO) amount of hardware dedicated to audio tasks (e.g. gaming and Siri capabilities)
- Kinect is a pack in
- Same day digital releases for all games
If I learn anything new before I leave the boards, I'll pass it along.
For me I'm not going to write off Sony's audio direction at this point. With the change to Jaguar cores, they will need something competent in that area.
VGLeaks info has been accurate due to what the info is coming from.
- Always online/internet connection required
- No used games
- No BC
- CPU has increased performance over normal Jaguar cores.
- ~3GB and 2 CPU cores are reserved for the OS, apps, Kinect, etc.
- Xbox has a crazy (IMO) amount of hardware dedicated to audio tasks (e.g. gaming and Siri capabilities)
- Kinect is a pack in
- Same day digital releases for all games
If I learn anything new before I leave the boards, I'll pass it along.
Gemüsepizza;47824578 said:
For me I'm not going to write off Sony's audio direction at this point. With the change to Jaguar cores, they will need something competent in that area.
So, Proelite, you want to retort point by point?
I think it started with the Big Mac
Well some titles, especially racing games do a lot of audio simulation. Forza 4 I think used up an entire 360 core just to process audio. According to bkilian, he said that we should not underestimate the cost of audio in games, for example he said that a request by a certain dev wanting to do some audio processing in a game he was working on, the entire flops or power of the 360 would not be enough to process it, so a really powerful dedicated audio processor to be able to move to better audio effects in games.
Proelite
Member
Older post. Newer makes no mention on the actual performance of the audio processor.
What is this supposed to imply exactly? That some of these things, perhaps in lesser form, were also apparent in the early alpha kits? How does that justify the omission of regarding Orbis' audio chip?
EDIT: Googling some more, it seems one of Cell's SPU's (not SPE's) can decode around 400 MP3 streams using it's multistream functionality, so stack up the early figure of 200 MP3 streams concurrently on the Orbis alpha kit Audio Processor how you will.
Man I hope youre wrong about the 720 stuff. I really hope Sony doesnt follow suit with always online/no used games crap. Wednesday cant come soon enough.
Proelite
Member
These were target specs. Despite being old they should still hold some useful information that were missing from the newer leaks.
iamshadowlark
Banned
Audio proccessing unit sounds like it could be anything. I'm pretty confident that they would be able to at least support any format that the ps3 could which is fine.
SneakyStephan
Banned
All of this (minus the dd releases and cpu power) had better be wrong...
Jeez, talk about lowering the bar.
bgassassin
Member
If they even talk about something like that on Wednesday to begin with. That seems like something we'd learn away from a presentation like that.
Depends. If they have the support of publishers they might get something in return. Like timed exclusives CoD, GTA or AC. Just read some publisher statements about used games in the past and you know who will support the closed platform.
phosphor112
Banned
Why would Durango need to be able to process "Siri" like commands when it's an online mandatory console?
Well I would think that if they arent following MS strategy they would want everyone to know asap for some good PR. Then again I guess those decisions could potentially change all the way up to launch so who knows.
Durango: Turn on.
Big Shirtless Ron
Member
I don't really care much about BC, but the no used games/always online stuff sucks. I hope digital titles are cheaper than physical copies.