legacyzero
Banned
Frankie is trilling the SHIT out of the internet lol
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
More Halo 3 PC Rumors - Microsoft/Frankie denying still
- Thread starter Grief.exe
- Start date
- Status
So how is this any different with how Halo 3 is being handled right now?
Pretty much.
A surprising amount of games on the original rumored list have either been confirmed or even released. If it wasn't for that fact, I wouldn't be doubting stinkles. However, some of you folks are nuts for straight up demanding answers. Personally, I'd say just let this go until after microsoft officially announces the new xbox.
legacyzero
Banned
Which is fine. Why would he out n out confirm it now?
how does it add to the discourse in any way?
Takamura-San
Member
If this becomes real, I believe that this speaks more about the 720 BC capabilities.
If they are porting they 360 games to PC, I would think it would mean that they are not viable on the 720 so there's nothing to lose by selling them on PC.
Edit: for the sake of a new page.
Is Halo 3 coming to Steam/PC? yes/no
If they are porting they 360 games to PC, I would think it would mean that they are not viable on the 720 so there's nothing to lose by selling them on PC.
Edit: for the sake of a new page.
Is Halo 3 coming to Steam/PC? yes/no
I H8 Memes
Member
If a franchise sells on consoles then MS is not going to put it on Windows. It's as simple as that. MS clearly sees PC gaming as a competitor as much as Sony or Nintendo is. It's not happening guys.
FFS somebody, anybody, please come out with a legitimate competitor to Windows OS so we can all be done with this damn company.
FFS somebody, anybody, please come out with a legitimate competitor to Windows OS so we can all be done with this damn company.
Felix Lighter
Member
Any amount of anxiety being caused now, will be immediately forgiven if/when it's officially announced. If I knew about it, I would be sure to get some enjoyment out of some evasive, not quite decisive denials filled with lots of qualifiers.
gaming_noob
Member
I'm probably in the minority but I'm still enjoying Halo 4. This coming from a COD: Black Ops addict. There were some adjustments but the thrill of starting a round with your DMR and plasma pistol is quite awesome. I hate being forced to use the AR in the previous Halos.
angular graphics
Banned
I remember last time Microsoft decided to make their come back to PC gaming. We got AoE Online (lol), Flight (loool), Fable III (loooool) and a revamped GFWL (loooooooooooooooool).
Tell that to Mark of the Ninja
and Deadlight
and Toy Soldiers
and... etc
...this time, we got Age of Empires 2 HD on Steam with Steamworks support.
I think Microsoft finally has their head on straight.
ClovingWestbrook
Banned
And you are ignoring the actual evidence listed in this thread. You are bringing up assumptions without evidence while others have included the registry and AMD evidence. Microsoft can make EASY money on this. So yea, evidence disagrees eith you.
Fable
Age of Empires
Deadlight
Toy Soldiers
Flight Sim X coming
And more.
Beer Monkey
Member
Meh, Microsoft has been loosening up lately. They even let Double Fine port Iron Brigade to Steam. Five years ago who would have thought we'd see Shadowrun on IOS? There's just no fucking telling what MS is going to do. I remember when people said MS would never allow generic USB storage on 360. Microsoft has demonstrated themselves to be in a state of transformation.
As pointed out, Fable 2 sold HUGE on 360, yet Fable 3 got a PC release. You sound like a hater.
DodgyGeezerFella
Member
And before that with Gears of War, Halo 2, Shadowrun & Viva Pinata.
Iron Brigade was published by THQ.
Beer Monkey
Member
Microsoft OWNS THE FUCKING IP. THEY OWN IT. It doesn't matter who publishes it, it's only due to Microsoft's kind decision that this game exists outside of 360.
BronsonLee
Member
I H8 Memes
Member
Mark of the Ninja developer: Klei Entertainment
Deadlight developer: Tequila Works
Toy Soldiers developer: Signal Studios
Those are 3rd party studios. And yet MS even pays money to keep games from those 3rd party studios timed exclusive off of PC. Including Alan Wake.
Age of Empires and Flight Sim were going to sell so well on xbox ...
As I said, if it moves consoles you arent getting it. You are probably not going to get a Banjo-Kazooie game. You are not getting Project Gotham racing. You are not getting Forza. And Windows sure as hell isnt going to get anymore Halo games.
Wow. You are a very excitable beer monkey.
I could have sworn the rights to the game were up in the thq auction. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.
They did publish them, though. So what if they were developed by third parties? So's Gears.
I didn't mention Age of Empires or Flight Simulator to you, because those aren't console games.
Also, Windows has gotten Halo games before. Why not now?
Beer Monkey
Member
angular graphics
Banned
That happened because an ex-Ensemble, current Hidden Path Entertainment guy nagged them for years to update the game for FREE just cause he loved the game and he knew other people loved it too. At a time he was also working for Valve.
I mean in the end it probably became more than a one man job and he probably got paid for it and it's nice they probably listened to him that it needs to be on Steam to be relevant but I doubt they would ever do that on their own.
So I see no great comeback.. yet.
The Halo trilogy of those old-ass but good games would be a good and meaningful first step but ehh let's see what happens with it.
Halo 2 even has problems running on Windows 7 (fixable if you care to google).. unbelievable how little they care for the existing games, let alone potential rereleases and new ports.
Man, I'm confused by these imvu ads on NeoGAF. Just who are they trying to appeal to?
kk, neat
We don't actually know why Age of Empires 2 is releasing. It's all conjecture at this point, is it not? The guy's linkedin shows he doesn't work at Hidden Path anymore either, if I remember right.
It is still in the top 10 games on Steam, and I'm betting after release, it stays that way for quite a while. We've seen registry information popping up for other games, like Flight Simulator, Halo, and Rise of Nations.
Money talks, and I think Microsoft might be starting to listen.
kk, neat
We don't actually know why Age of Empires 2 is releasing. It's all conjecture at this point, is it not? The guy's linkedin shows he doesn't work at Hidden Path anymore either, if I remember right.
It is still in the top 10 games on Steam, and I'm betting after release, it stays that way for quite a while. We've seen registry information popping up for other games, like Flight Simulator, Halo, and Rise of Nations.
Money talks, and I think Microsoft might be starting to listen.
dancrane212
Member
Valve has been pretty clear they want to get onto the television, I can see a pretty good reason why Microsoft wouldn't want a competitor be able to say "We have Halo on our box too! Come download it on our store!".
Even if it's an older game in the series it could create unwanted confusion in the market for Microsoft to have to deal with. They want people to see Halo and think Xbox.
ClovingWestbrook
Banned
Friendly wager?
If Halo 2-3 come to Steam in 2013 then you gift me them on Steam. If they dont I will buy you a $50 game on Steam.
I H8 Memes
Member
"I dont even need a 360. All I need is a PC and a PS3 and I can have all of the games"
Spoken by many a PS3 owner earlier in this generation. Of course much like the "I played Crysis and it felt more like a tech demo" crowd, you can be assured that almost none of these people actually have a gaming level PC. It's just something people said about games they couldnt play. Unfortunately both Crytek and MS responded to trolls if they repeated the same lie for long enough.
It's not going to impact their sales if they release six year old games on different platforms. Few, if any, people will wait that long. If they want to get the game, they're going to get it within that first year or two.
Beer Monkey
Member
From Atari owned properties like Centipede on Colecovision to Sega games on Turbografx to Sony's Wipeout on Saturn and N64, there is a long history of console rightsholders releasing their hot titles on competing consoles, and that is far stranger than anything about MS allowing older Halo titles on PC. People talk like this is insane and impossible, and that's absurd.
dancrane212
Member
Sony didn't own Wipeout until 1999 when they bought Psygnosis. Both the Saturn and N64 games came out before then.
This talk of not porting to pc so xbox sells more makes sense, but not in regards to halo 3. Especially when the next xbox releases and we get next gen halo, porting halo 3 is not going to stop someone from buying the 720 because its a last gen game that won't exactly make the steambox look like its the place to be for halo action.
snoopeasystreet
Member
Damn, I was going to make the exact same bet. Free PC Halo would've been sweet.
ClovingWestbrook
Banned
Lets see if he agrees to it. He's obviously extremely confident they arent coming so should be a free $50 game for him.
Shalashaska161
Member
It honestly makes a lot of sense for these games to be on PC at this point. Halo's 1-3 are not selling consoles anymore. MS has nothing to lose by porting them.
Syphon Filter
Member
That is only forum dudes,MS is not going to pay attention to that lol.
I want to do the same bet but at 30 dollars. Because when Halo 3 comes to PC it wont be 50 bucks. Wait, what was Halo 2's price on release?
Anywho, if hes so sure he should accept all of our bets. Its easy money/games for him, right?
ebullientprism
Member
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
Frankie trolled me. If my previous post was correct about his denying Halo 3 PC, I've now been multi-layer trolled because of this post. I'm going to believe again, cause neogaf told me so.
legacyzero
Banned
Whatever it is, its working lol
But, quite likely, millions to gain.
Seriously, if you're pricing it at $20 a pop (which is crazy for any game older than two or three years, which all three Halos are), and Valve takes 30% of the cut (I've heard it's higher, but whatever)... and you're the publisher/developer, that's around $13.33 a copy. You'd only need to hit 75,000 copies to get $1,000,000.
Granted, the cost of porting, based on some numbers I saw a while ago, was ~5 guys at $60k a month for 3 months. That's $900k right there, and doesn't include overhead/utilities/whatever, which, iirc, is double. So... 1.8 million.
To make up for the cost of a port, they'd have to sell around 135,000 copies.
With Halo 3, that's not unreasonable.
Now, that said? Alan Wake made back its money in just one day, and it sold for $35. Then again, Alan Wake had a PC version that was quite far along in development (the game was, after all, originally a PC exclusive), so they might not have had to have so many people working, blah blah blah.
Point is, if they sold 500,000 copies, at these COMPLETELY made-up and based on fuzzy memories of rules of thumbs numbers... they'd make like 4.87 million. I'm pretty sure they could pull off 500,000 copies in the first month, even at $20.
Halo 2 was $50, but that was boxed retail.
Graphics Horse
Member
Yep, it's just extra cash. I think I read someone.say it was because Steam was coming to Durango, but there's no way they'd need Steam to get their own games on there, makes no sense. But that doesn't mean Steam isn't coming to Durango either.
My theory is Frankie is just having fun with us right now.
PC games have long tails as well. Still generating revenue decades down the line.
Compared to consoles where the profits are very front heavy, usually in the first week, the tail end at 2 months after release.
PC games have long tails as well. Still generating revenue decades down the line.
Compared to consoles where the profits are very front heavy, usually in the first week, the tail end at 2 months after release.
Continuing your point here, there are certain developers that are more transparent than others. Alan Wake is one of those examples, Prison Architect is another.
They generated over $100,000 in 72 hours
Over $1,000,000 in a matter of months .
I'd be interested to see how much revenue Microsoft generated with AoE II HD so far. The game has not left the top ten sellers on Steam since it was announced.
Beer Monkey
Member
Sony bought Psygnosis in 1993 and only by their approval did Wipeout hit other platforms.
ArchedThunder
Banned
That explains a lot. You like the game for one of the biggest reasons Halo fans hate it.
There ya go
FUCK YEAH LETS RUIN BTB MAPS AND VEHICLE PLAY AT THE START OF A MATCH!
Seriously DMR needs a 2x scope and Plasma Pistols and grenades need to be removed from loadouts.
Poohblaster
Member
Pros and Cons of Halo 3 on Steam for Microsoft
Pros
Money
Get more people playing and talking about Halo
Digital distribution is much cheaper than retail
Cons
Any future HD/remastered versions are less relevant
Halo brand becomes less Xbox exclusive
Have to share money with a competitor Valve
I would probably do it if I were in charge. Halo 3 is almost 6 years old, it's not going to take much of a bite out of the next or current gen Xbox.
Pros
Money
Get more people playing and talking about Halo
Digital distribution is much cheaper than retail
Cons
Any future HD/remastered versions are less relevant
Halo brand becomes less Xbox exclusive
Have to share money with a competitor Valve
I would probably do it if I were in charge. Halo 3 is almost 6 years old, it's not going to take much of a bite out of the next or current gen Xbox.
dancrane212
Member
Whoops, yeah you're right.
Still, back when Sony Electronic Publishing was allowing Wipeout to be put out on other platforms it was still a separate division from their hardware division. When everything got rolled together into SCEE they made the series exclusive, I think that's where I got confused.
- Status
Similar threads
- Locked