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[Jac_Solar]

Clearly this is breaking the ToS of kickstarter so I hope it gets taken down

But just imagine the shitstorm if it is

"Little girls dreams to make video games shut down by kickstarter" etc.

Easiest way for them to avoid this is just to return all the bonus money, and just give her the money from the contributors of the 800$ goal.

They really, really should do this, since this isn't a project that can make use of any extra money. It's a payment for an RPG camp, right?

It's overall not in the spirit of Kickstarter, at all, but they'd have a big PR problem if they removed it, I think. If they just give her the goal money then it should be fine -- along with a press statement stating that this project couldn't make use of extra money, and that they will be implementing such an option for future kickstarter authors.

 

[ari]

Kickstarters is starting to get run into the ground with the recent successes some users are having on bullshit projects.

 

[Dave Meltzer]

Easiest way for them to avoid this is just to return all the bonus money, and just give her the money from the contributors of the 800$ goal.

No she shouldn't get $800 just as a good will gesture, which is all this is.

 

[TheSpoiler]

http://theawkwardglitch.com/2013/03/24/the-truth-corner-donating-to-the-rich-with-kickstarter/

I'm missing a few things probably, but I think it's strong enough to stand on its own. Anyone else writing about this?

 

[statham]

saw this in the comments.

 

[Gully State]

Why is there a $10000 tier for an $800 pledge goal? This is just some greedy ass shit and a horrible lesson to teach your kids.

 

[polyh3dron]

I just reported it. This is fucking deplorable.

 

[Midou]

It's overall not in the spirit of Kickstarter, at all, but they'd have a big PR problem if they removed it, I think.

Better to make an example out of it. I doubt the little girl has anything to actually do with the KS, if she actually even gives a shit about this RPGMaker camp, she can go anyway. They even name dropped the Veronica Mars kickstarter, KS is becoming more mainstream and if kickstarters like this get a free pass, it's going to poison the service it provides.

 

[moka]

saw this in the comments.

If you changed all the 'men' to 'women' and 'women' to 'men' in that article, it would become incredibly sexist.

Right now it's just equality.

 

[TheSpoiler]

saw this in the comments.

LOL

JUST

LOL

 

[LukeTim]

saw this in the comments.

I saw that before, but only read the highlighted parts.

Reading the rest, she sounds even MORE like a misandric moron.

 

[Phasair]

This is a bit of an easy shot, but I found this pretty funny (not made by me):

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/623745679/948103832?token=3fa62ca3

 

[-KRS-]

This is a bit of an easy shot, but I found this pretty funny (not made by me):

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/623745679/948103832?token=3fa62ca3

lol that's great.

 

[moka]

This is a bit of an easy shot, but I found this pretty funny (not made by me):

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/623745679/948103832?token=3fa62ca3

Where do I input my credit card details?

 

[LukeTim]

This is a bit of an easy shot, but I found this pretty funny (not made by me):

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/623745679/948103832?token=3fa62ca3

HAHA oh lord. That's hilarious.

 

[statham]

This is a bit of an easy shot, but I found this pretty funny (not made by me):

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/623745679/948103832?token=3fa62ca3

I just tried to pledge a $1 no go.

edit: just played the video!

 

[PaulExcellent]

I reported it.

Screw off, lady.

 

[LukeTim]

I just tried to pledge a $1 no go.

edit: just played the video!

Might donate $5 when (EDIT: *if*) it goes live. (EDIT: which it won't. Though if it does, Kickstarter loses even more credibility than if it keeps the original going.)

 

[BigBadShamoo]

A millionaire getting a kickstarter. That's awesome.

 

[tmarques]

Should kickstart a dentist appointment.

 

[foobarry81]

This is a bit of an easy shot, but I found this pretty funny (not made by me):

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/623745679/948103832?token=3fa62ca3

Lol, most entertaining piece I read in days. You deserve every penny of that $829.

 

[MBison]

How is this not on the front page of reddit yet getting blasted?

Edit: that fake page is epic

 

[AcceptableGhost]

This is gross. They need to pull this.

 

[akira28]

Fucking millionaires....if they're anything they're smart.

Smart enough to use others and let people do their work for them.

No, this is a great lesson to teach her. This is like a mother bear training her cubs to fish. Use the masses, their little beating hearts, their goodwill, use it for whatever you can imagine. I wish my parents taught me that.

 

[moka]

Might donate $5 when (EDIT: *if*) it goes live. (EDIT: which it won't. Though if it does, Kickstarter loses even more credibility than if it keeps the original going.)

You sound like a fucking lawyer.

 

[LukeTim]

You sound like a fucking lawyer.

I do?

I've been looking at the failed cape ks she did... Apparently she tried to get a new type of planking craze going, or something... called Flying... which is simply posing whilst wearing a cape. She's nuts.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Flying/441006072594131

 

[moka]

I do?

I've been looking at the failed cape ks she did... Apparently she tried to get a new type of planking craze going, or something... called Flying... which is simply posing whilst wearing a cape. She's nuts.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Flying/441006072594131

Oh. My. God. What have you uncovered?

She just keeps on giving.

Edit: Oh God, this is going to leave scars.

 

[Makonero]

This is a bit of an easy shot, but I found this pretty funny (not made by me):

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/623745679/948103832?token=3fa62ca3

The source. I think.

 

[statham]

I do?

I've been looking at the failed cape ks she did... Apparently she tried to get a new type of planking craze going, or something... called Flying... which is simply posing whilst wearing a cape. She's nuts.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Flying/441006072594131

It just doesn't stop.. lol

 

[PreyingShark]

That fake kickstarter is absolutely hilarious. The video also had me going.

Fucking millionaires....if they're anything they're smart.

Smart enough to use others and let people do their work for them.

No, this is a great lesson to teach her. This is like a mother bear training her cubs to fish. Use the masses, their little beating hearts, their goodwill, use it for whatever you can imagine. I wish my parents taught me that.

Pretty much this. This kickstarter is shameless, horrible, and should be pulled, but dang is this woman a genius. No wonder she's rich - people who are both smart and unbelievably, incomprehensibly shameless are the most likely to become millionaires.

 

[foobarry81]

I do?

I've been looking at the failed cape ks she did... Apparently she tried to get a new type of planking craze going, or something... called Flying... which is simply posing whilst wearing a cape. She's nuts.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Flying/441006072594131

Makes perfect sense from a business point of view: start a cape hype, then have other people fund a cape project through Kickstarter and wait for the profits to roll in...

 

[moka]

Makes perfect sense from a business point of view: start a cape hype, then have other people fund a cape project through Kickstarter and wait for the profits to roll in...

Sh..she...she's an evil genius.

 

[LukeTim]

Pretty much this. This kickstarter is shameless, horrible, and should be pulled, but dang is this woman a genius. No wonder she's rich - people who are both smart and unbelievably, incomprehensibly shameless are the most likely to become millionaires.

Not convinced she's a genius... from what I have learned about her through google, her FundHer website etc, I am baffled at how she managed to get rich in the first place. Guess she must have got lucky... In fact, I'm not sure you need to be that smart to make money... it helps, but I think psychopathy and/or simple shamelessness helps a great deal more.

 

[TheSpoiler]

Not convinced she's a genius... from what I have learned about her through google, her FundHer website etc, I am baffled at how she managed to get rich in the first place. Guess she must have got lucky...

She's not a genius. People are just stupid.

 

[Ravidrath]

Sort of related, but...

Do people have issues with millionaires like Chris Roberts and Richard Garriot using crowdfunding to fund games they could easily fund themselves?

 

[statham]

I kinda want a cape now...

 

[Violet_0]

Sort of related, but...

Do people have issues with millionaires like Chris Roberts and Richard Garriot using crowdfunding to fund games they could easily fund themselves?

yes, but not everyone

 

[Clockwork]

Sort of related, but...

Do people have issues with millionaires like Chris Roberts and Richard Garriot using crowdfunding to fund games they could easily fund themselves?

Not at all.

I'm not even sure I would say they could easily fund the games themselves. What's usually being funded are games publishers won't spend money on.

 

[Kyou]

Sort of related, but...

Do people have issues with millionaires like Chris Roberts and Richard Garriot using crowdfunding to fund games they could easily fund themselves?

At some point you feel like you're not helping get something off the ground you're just absolving them of any risk in creating a product.

 

[Dictator93]

Sort of related, but...

Do people have issues with millionaires like Chris Roberts and Richard Garriot using crowdfunding to fund games they could easily fund themselves?

SOme peoplpe do.

Chris Roberts put a good amount of money into his own porject though already.

There is a great article about it from robert florence. Isnt there?

At some point you feel like you're not helping get something off the ground you're just absolving them of any risk in creating a product.

BAM. THis is a great argument.

 

[Ravidrath]

Not at all.

I'm not even sure I would say they could easily fund the games themselves. What's usually being funded are games publishers won't spend money on.

Maybe it's only because I interned at Origin and know how much they made from the EA sale, but I am confident they could easily afford to fund those games themselves.

They made a lot of money then, and castles and moon trips aside, they've invested it well.

At some point you feel like you're not helping get something off the ground you're just absolving them of any risk in creating a product.

I get this, but that doesn't seem to speak very well for their belief in said product, does it?

 

[Gannd]

Sort of related, but...

Do people have issues with millionaires like Chris Roberts and Richard Garriot using crowdfunding to fund games they could easily fund themselves?

Depends on how much they're asking for. I can understand not wanting to put a million dollars into a game. But this is $829. It's a scam.

 

[Delusibeta]

Sort of related, but...

Do people have issues with millionaires like Chris Roberts and Richard Garriot using crowdfunding to fund games they could easily fund themselves?

We had this discussion when Molyneux went to Kickstarter, and the consensus seems to be "depends on the size of the project". The difference between this and Godus is that the Godus Kickstarter asked for half a million pounds, which is still a fair amount for one man to pay. This is eight hundred bucks, and you'll probably struggle to get a holiday for a family of four for less, never mind the wealth of the person behind the "project".

 

[mattiewheels]

Sort of related, but...

Do people have issues with millionaires like Chris Roberts and Richard Garriot using crowdfunding to fund games they could easily fund themselves?

Tons of people in the Garriot thread, me included, had a problem with that. I would feel much better about his initiative if he was known to be funding part of it himself, though.

 

[Kade]

Sort of related, but...

Do people have issues with millionaires like Chris Roberts and Richard Garriot using crowdfunding to fund games they could easily fund themselves?

People would have a problem with it if the asking amount was $900 and they weren't going to get anything in the end. If Richard Garriott started a Kickstarter campaign asking for $100 so he could transport his Tech Deck collection into space to prove that you can in fact kickflip in zero g then a lot of people would be pissed (not me though). Chris Roberts and Richard Garriott probably don't have enough money or aren't willing to shell out the asking amounts of their campaigns out of their own pockets, anyways.

 

[GraveRobberX]

Quick ?

The game she is creating is through RPG Maker

Are you allowed to sell your RPG Maker game using their assets?

Shouldn't the company that created RPG maker get a cut or sue the ever living shit out of it?

 

[Baby Milo]

this is a win-win for her

Kickstarter goes through-she made bank

Kickstarter pulls it-she can play the sympathy card and promote her stuff

genius really

 

[Ravidrath]

Tons of people in the Garriot thread, me included, had a problem with that. I would feel much better about his initiative if he was known to be funding part of it himself, though.

Yeah, I would feel pretty OK with this - if we were matching every dollar with a dollar of his own, then any doubts I have would be gone.

 

[Prez]

At some point you feel like you're not helping get something off the ground you're just absolving them of any risk in creating a product.

Also they don't have to repay the invested money. Everything they make from the game is profit.

 

[akira28]

Sort of related, but...

Do people have issues with millionaires like Chris Roberts and Richard Garriot using crowdfunding to fund games they could easily fund themselves?

Why would you ever fund...a *game* by yourself? Are you expected to funnel all of the profits into your wallet too? I mean...something like paying your own ticket is one thing. Paying to build something tangible from the ground up? It's rare that you should do that. Millionaire or not.