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Of Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft; which would the industry miss the least?

Rat Salad

Banned
Well so far, you have one extra game you can play that I can't. The Last of Us. You have God of War, I've just finished the latest Gears. As for the rest of the year? Well MS always announce thier Winter line up at E3. So no I'm not really pissed. Not to mention the latest 3rd party games that Xbox owners can play aswell you know.

This. But then a certain group of gamers will shut their eyes and just how and moan,as usual. Nothing new to see. Lets port beg for Vita instead!
 
MS. Whom I want gone anyway, for selfish reasons. An console industry dominated by two consoles wouldn't be a bad thing. The SNES/Genesis gen was a two-horse race, and after the Saturn sputtered, the PS1 and N64 had a good run. We have two handhelds, PC and the newish mobile landscape to fill out the rest in lieu of things like the PC Engine and 3DO. I just wouldn't miss Microsoft's contributions. The "HD Twins" factor shows that its kind redundant to have three.
 

sinseers

Member
With the Live format standardized (and free), Halo is pretty much the only iconic thing about the Xbox brand. If Microsoft were to leave the gaming industry, and sold off Halo to become multiplatform, there would be no reason for anyone to miss them.

The Halo faithful would move on to the PlayStation. Gears is owned by epic, and would be on PlayStation. GT > Forza. Fable is meh. RARE is dead.

Nintendo does more of their own thing nowadays, and have been synonymous with gaming since the 80's.

The exact same thing could be said about any one of the 3. What you think should Nintendo or Sony fold none of their IPs would migrate somewhere else? If its all about the games then you as a gamer should'nt be faithful to any one of the big 3 cuz they all provide good IPs. That being said, the question asked which one of the big 3 would the INDUSTRY miss the least. The INDUSTRY kind of spoke loud and clear this gen and already going into next gen in Nintendo if anyone cares to pay attention to 3rd party support for the Wii and Wii U.
 

Mandoric

Banned
MS. Whom I want gone anyway, for selfish reasons. An console industry dominated by two consoles wouldn't be a bad thing. The SNES/Genesis gen was a two-horse race, and after the Saturn sputtered, the PS1 and N64 had a good run. We have two handhelds, PC and the newish mobile landscape to fill out the rest in lieu of things like the PC Engine and 3DO. I just wouldn't miss Microsoft's contributions. The "HD Twins" factor shows that its kind redundant to have three.

TurboGrafx. Plus Neo Geo, a small army of Japanese PC-based oneshots, and the 3DO/CDi/Jaguar coming in halfway.
 

sinseers

Member
I doubt that. The console maker even without competition still has to answer to the users. Looking at how PSN has changed from the beginning while Live has had an effect in making it better, a lot more of what changed was because of the users complaining about it to the point where Sony changed it.

Because they had Live to compare it to. Think about Madden and how stale that thing has been without any direct competition....
 

gioGAF

Member
Microsoft for sure. The xbox is a great console, but Microsoft doesn't really make games and everything made by third parties is available on other consoles. Their absence would be the least damaging (we would lose out on the benefits of having them as a competitor to the other consoles).
 

EGM1966

Member
Micrsoft - compared to the other two at this point (and taking into account PC gaming) MS for me has added the least value to date to videogame medium. The fact they seem the least interested overall at the moment in the videogame medium doesn't help their case with me either.
 

djtiesto

is beloved, despite what anyone might say
Wouldn't shed a tear at all if MS left. Not at all into their first-party games nor am I a fan of Kinect.
 

sinseers

Member
I think the fact that Sony did so, so many things wrong this generation and still managed to sell about as much current gen consoles as Microsoft (and at a faster pace) proves you wrong when you say PlayStation as a brand lost its relevance.

Ruling 2 whole generations does will earn you some favor.......let them screw up for 2 whole generations though......
 
Nintendo. No interest in Zelda, Mario is seriously rehashed. Nothing of interest for me outside of playing a game with the wife for 45 mins. every 3 mos or so. I used to love Nintendo too.
 
Going forward, Microsoft definitely. They have nothing going forward that I'm looking forward to (with the exception of whatever Remedy is working on).

If up it was wipe them from existence, I'd say Sony. I couldn't imagine not being able to play Geometry Wars 2.
 

sinseers

Member
You where 'ok' until your last point. ;)

Nintendo has 'very roughly' 14 launched consoles.
NES
SNES
Virtual Boy.
N64
GameCube
Wii
WiiU
GameBoy
GameBoy Pocket
GameBoy Color
GameBoy Advance/(GameBoy Advance SP)
GameBoy Micro
DS/(DS Lite)
DSi/(DSi XL)
(I dropped a couple of Lite/XL DS releases)


Sony has launched 5 consoles to date
Playstation 1
Playstation 2
Playstation 3
PSP
Vita

Percentage wise.. Sony has hit the mark on each of there releases. And I think, over time, The WiiU and Vita will be fine.

By the way, the Nintendo list of released consoles is staggering.
They (Nintendo) is the elder-states men of gaming.

Nintendo may not be the most powerful in the home console realm (please do give me Wii sales figures), however they are extremely influential in the portable market and must be respected across the board.

Completely aware that I just stated one of the most obvious facts in the gaming universe... spare or spear me :)

Uh you conveniently left the PSP GO of that list there sport....talk about hitting the mark......
 
Microsoft. I don't dislike them, but I think they could everything that they are already doing (in regards to gaming, not that taking over the living room stuff) on the PC. Besides when I think of "PC", I think of Microsoft. So I wouldn't really miss them if they stopped making consoles.
 

sinseers

Member
In terms of games and gaming franchises, Microsoft will be missed least. They simply don't own the IP or own enough proven studios in comparison to Sony and Nintendo.

But in terms of pushing the industry forward and in to new directions, Sony will be missed least.

After all, Sony's PS4 reveal only showed more of the same, with a lot of 'talk'. PS3 is still in the same situation as it was when it launched - with ridiculously slow patching (360 has already patched a game before PS3 even starts downloading the patch), and also required installs on downloaded content. Why have they waited until PS4 to fix all this shit? They've been playing catch-up with PSN, Trophies. XBLA has gotten the lion's share of quality indie content. Nintendo - despite struggling at the moment - still has plenty of innovation left in them, at least they try to be different. And Sony - despite being the first company to bring in casuals with PS2 - has completely failed to expand the market with PS3.

Sony still has a lot to prove next generation. I'm 31 so old enough to know the bullshit they've spouted at the reveals of PS2 and PS3. The proof is in the pudding. And believe me, I want them to deliver this time.

I will give Sony this......they sell potential like nobodys business....remember Home?
 
Dude, nobody was buying a fucking console at $599. That would not have changed if the 360 or even the Wii were not around.

Lots of people bought at $599. And it wouldn't have to stay at $599 forever, so you can have a monopoly and still keep growing your user base. Current slims that are $249-$299 could be more like $329-$374 in a market where the Xbox doesn't exist, and yes, they would sell, and Sony would have been able to dig out of their losses.

Monopolies = consumers are assraped. More money. Less features. Less innovation. Windows users that wish Apple didn't exist are morons. PS3 owners that wish Xbox didn't exist are as well.

COMPETITION IS GOOD. MONOPOLIES SUCK. Neither Sony nor Microsoft should have 100% of the market to themselves.
 

Kai Dracon

Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Microsoft, because they put out the least actual game product. They primarily provide a platform (hardware, Xbox Live).

Sony funds a whole lot of game development directly.

Nintendo is predicated almost entirely on 1st party game product.
 

Brashnir

Member
This thread is the perfect thing to link to when someone on GAF posits that this board hates all 3 console makes equally.
 
Lots of people bought at $599. And it wouldn't have to stay at $599 forever, so you can have a monopoly and still keep growing your user base. Current slims that are $249-$299 could be more like $329-$374 in a market where the Xbox doesn't exist, and yes, they would sell, and Sony would have been able to dig out of their losses.

Monopolies = consumers are assraped. More money. Less features. Less innovation. Windows users that wish Apple didn't exist are morons. PS3 owners that wish Xbox didn't exist are as well.

COMPETITION IS GOOD. MONOPOLIES SUCK. Neither Sony nor Microsoft should have 100% of the market to themselves.
Why stop there? Jack the price of a ps3 slim up to $1000. It's a monopoly, nobody has a choice but to buy, right?

MS discontinuing the Xbox wouldn't even result in a monopoly for Sony anyway. There is still Nintendo plus the countless other forms of electronic entertainment these days. The point was that MS would not be missed if they left, because all they currently offer is a generic box with a disc drive that other people make games for.
 

BLunted

Banned
Industry: Microsoft
Me: Nintendo

I dont think I have played a Nintendo game since the SNES. Wouldn't affect me in the least if they disappeared.
 
Microsoft. They brought some things, like online gaming, to the table, but they also brought paid subscriptions and the redefining of "core" to mean first person shooters.
 
Why stop there? Jack the price of a ps3 slim up to $1000. It's a monopoly, nobody has a choice but to buy, right?

Have you ever had an economics class? I'm pretty certain at this point you have not.

At $100000, you make $0 in sales because you sell nothing. You produce virtually nothing, but you have massive R&D losses.

At $1, you lose billions of dollars because each system is sold at a massive loss.

So these extremes never happen. Real pricing ends up somewhere in between, and one of the factors that determine where that pricing ends up is the pricing of substitute goods aka competition. As price disparity (and/or greater feature sets at the same price) increases, fanboys become more likely to consider the competing console a substitute good. And to non-fanboy gamers, two 'twins' like PS3 and 360 are always substitute goods for each other.

The absence of competition reduces pressure on the price of the good. If Xbox didn't exist, PS3 would indeed cost more, and make more late-generation profit. And the inverse is true if Playstation didn't exist.

I'm discontinuing this discussion because you obviously don't understand anything about economics so there's really nowhere else to go with this.
 

J-Rzez

Member
If someone like Samsung or Google would enter the market, then I'd say MS. They don't have first parties I care about, their multiplayer tax is bullshit, and if these rumors and rumblings turn out true, then I wouldn't miss them one bit. Their latest products post 360/Win7 have no interest to me, and apparently many others. I still like Sony's first parties too much, and I enjoy their products (not just console hardware) just as much as say Samsung's. Their design, fit and finish is great. We'd need someone to fill said void though if MS left just to keep Sony evolving.

Ninty is a weird one. I mean, if they left the hardware business and carried on with their software, then I don't think I'd be upset one bit. They'd be able to just focus on games, which is their specialty, and have superior hardware to work with, thus most likely resulting in an even better finished product. I wouldn't want to see them disappear all together though.
 

Caddle

Member
Wish all you want haters, microsoft isn't going anywhere. If anything, the other 2 will go before microsoft does.
 

rCIZZLE

Member
The best thing MS does anymore is provide competition and keep Sony in check. It's basically a 3rd party machine anymore with most of the exclusives either going mutli or being tossed off to inferior devs.
 

BossLackey

Gold Member
Well if you say industry as in other devs and publishers, it would be Nintendo.
Nintendo only cares about themselves that third party is always dead.

Consumers would put Microsoft in that position.

This is probably the most accurate answer I've seen yet.
 

Woo-Fu

Banned
In terms of games, Microsoft.

In terms of everything else, Nintendo.

While you can look at Microsoft and think most of those games would--and do---exist on other platforms that doesn't tell the entire story. What about Live? Without Microsoft leading the way neither Nintendo, nor Sony would be where they are today when it comes to online.

Even if you don't care for MS or any of their exclusives you have to admit that just by being in the game they've had a positive effect on the games/platforms you do care about.
 

sinseers

Member
A $10 headset packed in with every console. I'm simply stunned by the innovation on display here.

You would have a better argument by saying party chat, because that's what most people are thankful for. More people curse MS for allowing basic voice chat to happen online because of how strangers act online. It was only when party chat was introduced that the mic actually became useful.

Thank goodness for individual mute........
 

Katzii

Member
Microsoft because they just don't cater to the type of games I like.

That and the whole "pay to play online" thing aggravates me.
 
Microsoft. They brought some things, like online gaming, to the table, but they also brought paid subscriptions and the redefining of "core" to mean first person shooters.

You mean the online gaming that was new and interesting.

I was playing online on my Sega Saturn and it was cool.
I was playing online on my Dreamcast and it was awesome.

That Microsoft.
 

sinseers

Member
They are willing to create new IPs unlike MS. What has MS done in terms of making new IPs. instead of letting 343 industries create their own game, MS used them to reboot Halo.

How does Sony 1st party creating new IPs equate to the industry, not the gamers, missing them more should they suddenly stop production of a console? What have they done that would make the industry, not their consumers, miss them if they went bye bye?
 

sinseers

Member
Microsoft. They have the smallest pedigree of the three and are a relative newcomer.

Now that they're not the only one doing online gaming they offer nothing of value either.



Yeah, I remember how shitty the ps1 and ps2 days were because MS wasn't in the mix.


I remember how sh*%#y the Gen / SNES days were before anyone ever heard of a Playstation. your point?
 

Bert

Member
360 probably did more [for] gaming than the ... ps1 ever did.


Just wanna leave that out there for posterity. Wow.

The obvious answer is MS.

Nintendo bring a focus on gameplay and polish. They're the only ones who bring something that no one could emulate.

Sony brought gaming into the mainstream and brought about the industry as now it today.
 
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