By many accounts on the internet and from folks I know, the 3DS version of Monster Hunter 3 is a less than ideal way to play the game, especially for newcomers. Vita's hardware seems better suited for the experience, but not gonna hold my breath at this point. It'll likely be console or nothing for me if I ever attempt to get into MH, despite it being something I'd rather have on the go.
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Capcom: "We've got no plans for PS Vita Monster Hunter at the moment"
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KillerTravis
Banned
That's BS, the 3DS or WiiU monster hunters are probably the best to start playing the series. The target switch perfectly makes a second stick unnecessary.
More so that Nintendo was quicker to the game ...
If the developers felt differently I'm sure they'd have pushed for a second stick attachment or something, so you must be right.
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
Right, while the PSP was ideal without even having that function or a virtual touch canera pad so that's why it never got such an attachment.
Troll harder.
KillerTravis
Banned
Well the option is there for people that can't get used to the target I guess, but that doesn't mean the game isn't perfectly playable without the CCP.
Everyone I've heard says play WiiU >>> 3DS. Online play would be key for me. I don't have a WiiU right now, though.
The PSP wasn't ideal either, everyone wanted to see a second stick on the successor.
Ugh, infantile.
Sure, I'm not suggesting it isn't perfectly playable, I'm just saying it would be better with a second stick.
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
No shit. Hence getting or not getting an attachment isn't any kind of proof as you wanted to suggest with what you thought was a witty comment.
There are arguments to be made, you however made no good ones in that post. Just trolled.
Yes, you seem to be.
Ingueferroque
Banned
This has to be politics at play, right? Nintendo purchased handheld MH exclusivity? It just makes too much sense.
I honestly can't do the '3D games don't need a second stick' dance again.
Did you just drop 'I know you are, so what am I?'
Why yes, yes you did.
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
I didn't ask you to, I just commented on your trolling without stating my opinion on the matter.
Though pointing out the PSP wasn't ideal despite not having an attachment certainly hints the opposite of the straw man you're trying to pull here.
You could have made a valid argument but failed to do so just to post what you thought was witty remark and that's all I pointed out at the time, not if a second stick would or wouldn't be good to have.
So? Did you just throw insults out of nowhere just because I called out your trolling? Why yes you did. So your insults certainly deserve getting thrown back to you.
That's Western gamers saying it, because we don't play local multiplayer on handhelds socially as much so the lack of online on 3DS really hurts it. Of course we also like HD, big TVs and twin sticks. But the 3DS version isn't bad either. People, myself included, did play the series on PSP and it's certainly way better on 3DS with the added control features and touch screen camera control, even if that's not as good as a second stick. MonHun4 will have less of these issues too since it will have native online on 3DS, but I'm sure that in the West the home console version will be preferred still. It would likely be the preferred version even if the handheld version was on Vita even though that does have a second stick. In Japan it's the opposite as the second stick clearly isn't as important as the portability to them, that's why it exploded on PSP and not PS2.
I'm a newcomer to the series, and I've done 110+hrs on the original 3ds (no cpp), so have plenty of people in the OT. My experience does not reflect what you say here at all.
The game is better suited for portables than consoles (I also own the WiiU version), but if console is a requirement for you, from what I've seen 3U seems the best place for neophytes to start.
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
You mean that scan of various titles that surfaced at the beginning of last year?
Was the scan real in the first place, or did it just appeared on the internet one day? Who else has saw it in real life back then? Honest questions.
Wolf Akela
Member
Until you go underwater, or fight duals. You can't help but notice how terrible onscreen camera control is next to CPP.
You're so fucking uptight it's unreal.
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
I'm just posting my opinions on a forum, in a thread I happened to be active in at this time, you're the one getting riled up enough to start throwing personal insults and f bombs.
Sorry to have offended you so much, it's just what I think, not a big deal, I'm just a random guy on the internet
I've done both of those, and haven't had any more problems than when using wii u's second stick. I've gotten used to the virtual dpad.
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
I can believe that, my preferred control method on Wii was the remote + nunchuck even though I have a Clsssic Controller and even though my first experience with the series was on PSP. That means my camera control was on a d-pad rather than an analog stick but it never felt like I was struggling against the controls, just the monsters. I preferred for the comfort factor and tilt shortcuts.
However I think they've said 4 is going to have free camera (meaning full analog control even though it doesn't have underwater parts, in previous games camera control was all digital even when using an analog stick, possibly with the exception of the underwater bits in Tri, I forget) so that could indeed be significantly better on an analog stick. Then again, they might make the touchpad optionally analog too for the 3DS.
ShockingAlberto
Member
It would be pretty great if they ported Monster Hunter to a system with a second stick.
I imagine for a lot of people would put down a significant amount of money for that opportunity.
I imagine for a lot of people would put down a significant amount of money for that opportunity.
I sincerely doubt that. For most people, 'good enough' is good enough. See smartphone gaming for an example.
electroplankton
Banned
Losing Monster Hunter effectively killed the Vita (or certainly took away its safety net). Whether I like the title or not, it's been pivotal in the development of the handheld market this generation.You don't even like MH, why caring about the topic of the thread?
I also find it interesting that speculation continues, even though its obvious that the 3DS is the far better platform sales-wise and Capcom don't seem to want to support the Vita in any capacity whatsoever. I honestly can't imagine what on earth is sowing the seeds of hope.
metalslimer
Member
Even if MH had shown up, the platform would still be fucked in the west, and 3rd parties are already hesitant in going on the 3ds for mediocre western sales. The truth is that the PSP was mainly supported because the DS was far too weak to accomodate many styles of games.Overall, PSP's software sales were not great for a platform that sold 20 million units. By the way Shocking Alberto was being sarcastic because Wii U has 2 sticks
Fanboy love of course, it always happens. Same reason we see threads about if/how the WiiU will recover.
With MH on it, I bet we would see more east support for the platform, and maybe some of those games would come to the west. So at least that's something. Some extra games will always help.
The WiiU's continued shit sales suggests otherwise.
I hope MH4 is ported to the WiiU as well.
I own both a 3DS and a WiiU and love both, so please don't get me for port-begging
Indeed, it's not the only factor that has seen the Vita struggle. It's the single largest in my opinion though. It would've been the platform that you had to buy for MH whether you liked it or not, and many would have. Losing MH meant that the 3DS exclusively has literally every handheld franchise that anyone anywhere cares about*.
*from a system seller perspective.
Don't tell anyone, but it's entirely possible I recognised the sarcasm.
It has to be more than that. If you look up 'Vita Fanboy' in a dictionary, it's just a picture of my avatar. That shouldn't make you blind to market realities though.
metalslimer
Member
Also the truth is that while PS Vita fans need to stop whining like babies about not getting game that is not coming, other people need to stop whining about how there is no reason to not want the game on system like the 3DS. However, there is a fine line between that and port begging.
True, but you responded seriously to his post which threw me off.
True, but you responded seriously to his post which threw me off.
electroplankton
Banned
It seems Vita owners substituted MH with SS, so why bothering?
Anyway, rumors about DQIX coming on PSP at the time were on par with MH on Vita. Did you see DQIX somewhere else?
electroplankton
Banned
Because MH is built around local multiplayer in Japan. Splitting the userbase is one of the worst ideas in this case.
I think the big question about Soul Sacrifice is if it's something that appeals to just Vita owners or if it has broader appeal. The big thing about MonHun was that it got a lot of people to buy PSPs just to play it, and the jury is certainly still out of SS can do the same thing.
For my money, though, I would point to God Eater 2 being much more capable than SS to be that very popular hunting action game in the Vita's arsenal, since it targets a much wider range of players, rather than the decidedly more adult-oriented SS.
I'm amazed by the amount of people acting like SS is a good replacement for MH. The game barely sold at all, and plays very differently. Sure you hunt monster with other people but that isn't enough for it to take MH's place. You guys did see the game's current sales, right?
Like a lot already mentioned, they don't want to fragment the game's playerbase.
????
WiiU has a second stick.
And woosh goes the dynamite!
electroplankton
Banned
Around 200k in Japan, around 50k in the US, who knows in Europe.
Not ver favourable. At least physical sales, I haven't seen numbers for digital yet.
I can't remember the exact number, but I think it was less than 150k.
Thanks. yeah Digital would be interesting. Went DD with my 3DS version.
electroplankton
Banned
Source?
The game might well be above 300k worldwide, and it's just been released in the West.
That's why people seem to be fairly excited for Monster Hunter Online, should it get a western release.
That's for just the Wii U version, right?
You can believe one game is better while recognizing that it won't have the same mass market appeal and sales. They two don't have to relate to each other, but I'm not surprised by your comment.
Yeah; the 3DS version is around 2 million sold in Japan.