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How can Nintendo get away with selling the 3DSXL without a charger?
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Mihael Mello Keehl
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Jesus christ im out lol
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It seems to me Nintendo have a poor understanding of european regulations. I don't know what the deal is in jpn. Maybe they assume everyone has a 3DS/DSi charger lying around, lol.
This reminds me of the situation with no mature games on e-shop before after 11pm thing, which was based on a misunderstanding of german law. Likewise, there are elements in european consumer regulations hinting of a future with universal USB chargers etc, but Nintendo are waaaaaaaay premature to go non-charger at this point in time.
So yeah, it's pretty dumb and unneccessary. I don't know why they changed it from the original 3DS, which came with a charger and dock also in Europe.
Also:
Jesus Christ, what is going on in here?
This reminds me of the situation with no mature games on e-shop before after 11pm thing, which was based on a misunderstanding of german law. Likewise, there are elements in european consumer regulations hinting of a future with universal USB chargers etc, but Nintendo are waaaaaaaay premature to go non-charger at this point in time.
So yeah, it's pretty dumb and unneccessary. I don't know why they changed it from the original 3DS, which came with a charger and dock also in Europe.
Also:
Jesus Christ, what is going on in here?
Then not be able to play it again. Until you fork out for a separate charger. Great argument there.
Well, you've quoted it out of context. But in the original context of no charger vs no memory card it works perfectly well.
Without memory card you can't play anything on a Vita, besides welcome park.
Why don't you just get the original 3DS then?
So... the original 3DS, and the XL everywhere that isn't Europe (EDIT: Or Japan).
Also, how is it any different to say, the Vita not including a memory card? Both are required, and one is a heck of a lot more expensive than the other.
This is how I feel in every thread like this.
IrishNinja
Member
well
are we talking an always-online turd here or what, also does the turd maybe have a triforce symbol in it (perhaps made of corn?) because i'm starting to come around to this idea
Glass Rebel
Member
it's been a while since Sim City SNES.
IrishNinja
Member
why you gotta bring that up, rebel...i never did get my megalopolis/mario statue =/
cheat code = no crime, no taxes, EVERYTHINGS PERFECT IN NEW JACK CITY BUT NOOOO YOU PEOPLE GOT 3% POLLUTION SO ITS TIME TO MOVE HUH? WELL LETS SEE YOU DO THAT SHIT WITH NO AIRPORT AND BOWSER ON THE LOOSE
To be fair I wouldn't care if all of my didn't electronics come with chargers as long as it was cleary stated and that the product itself was reduced in price the cost of a charger.
But there's no way of knowing if the XL would cost slightly more with the charger, I'd be willing to bet it would be a fiver more, but eh.
Maybe different people value/see things differently?
Glass Rebel
Member
:lol you kill me, irish
Singling one thing out when more than one thing is doing it is bad.
The real question should be "How do companies get away with not including required accessories".
This is a common thing in the industry, and has been happening for generations now.
Well, we shouldn't have all bought PS1's then. That's the first instance of this i can remember.
Not really, if that one thing is the subject of the thread. It'd be equally ridiculous to attempt to address criticism of the Vita memory situation by pointing out the the 3DSXL doesn't come with a charger. Mentioning the Vita memory situation as if it excuses the omission of an AC adapter is quite obviously driven by platform rivalry.
That might be a good thread, but it isn't what this particular thread is about.
This is one hell of an assumption to make though, and an unfair one seeing as genuine customers will get caught out by it. I never owned a DSi and sold my OG 3DS after buying the XL, which had to include the charger for the sale to go through. Thankfully, and like I said earlier in the thread, retailers covered Nintendo's slack at the XL launch and included chargers themselves, which saved me the cost.
The fact is Nintendo are selling a product which isn't able to operate without an additional accessory, which factors in as extra cost. They chose to do that. That's not good enough.
I think people who bring up the Vita memory card situation are missing the point as well. That's another stupid and anti-consumer policy as well, but it doesn't change the 3DS XL situation. It's a pointless comparison, and trying to deflect criticism on the basis of "well people excuse the Vita!" is nothing more than babyish fanboy nonsense.
Dave Meltzer
Banned
The Vita memory card situation is unfortunate, but ultimately you can at least make the argument that they're excluding it from the system so you have freedom to choose what size card you want and how much you want to spend. The difference here is there's no variation in a fucking ac adapter. Functionality is the same no matter what you buy. As a customer there's no argument that choice can benefit you.
test_account
XP-39C²
There are a few games that doesnt require a memory card. Its not many though, but some works without a memory card.
Glass Rebel
Member
Yes, only EU and Japanese units are sold without charger.
It was mentioned several times in this thread: People who own the adapter from their DSi or DSi XL don't have to shell out more money for this.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Did I step into GameFAQs by mistake?
This thread is: How can Nintendo get away with selling the 3DSXL without a charger?
Applying that to: How can A company sell a product without a required accessory? Is not far fetched. Honestly it is just less specific but it still applies completely.
Sony not selling a memory card with Vita is ridiculous, Nintendo selling the 3DSXL without a charger is even more ridiculous IMO, but hopefully it is clearly labeled on the box in both cases. This shouldn't be acceptable in either instance though.
Dave Meltzer
Banned
The cost of an adapter to Nintendo is so minuscule the potential saving is irrelevant. We're talking a dollar or so at best. That's never going to be reflected in the price.
Also anyone with an old system presumably trades it in a lot of the time when they buy a new one, negating the "they have an adapter" argument.
The decision to use proprietary memory is very different from the decision to use electricity, even if the ramifications appear the same at first glance. I think a closer example would be the PS3 HDMI cable and everyone (rightly) bitched like crazy about that too.
Edit: to be clear, I'm of the firm opinion that the Vita memory situation is a shit-show from all angles.
Glass Rebel
Member
Have you missed the discussion about companies in the EU diminishing electronic waste, Nintendo being able to create one single package for the EU or smaller boxes?
And you gotta back up your claim about people trading their systems in.
Well, obviously I can't say I am aware of any data showing actual user upgrading statistic, definitely NOT an educated guess.
The people pointing out the Vita in this thread are not doing so as a defense of the 3DS. The 3DS XL not including a charger is indeed pathetic.
Instead, they are pointing out that this thread singles out one platform while there are other platforms doing the same damn thing. The simple extension to companies in general is absolutely relevant to this thread.
Really? I think you have missed the point man.
SimpleGamer
Member
Wait, is this in some other country because my 3ds XL came with one. I live in the U.S.
Then why not use a connector standard like USB?
All this does is create more waste (theoretically) since they're still manufacturing and packaging their chargers which are only for their handhelds.
Yes, Europe and Japan are indeed "some other country".
Glass Rebel
Member
I already said in a previous post that it's stupid they didn't use USB but that would require them to create a new charger. This way they can just use their old model.
Not so sure about your math adding up here btw.
edit: again, because some people here have a short fuse when it comes to these things: I am not defending this, just offering explanations.
I was told DS/DS lite chargers dont work with it, only DSi ones do?
Beermeister
Banned
Because Nintendo fans let them.
Dave Meltzer
Banned
Isn't it logical most people don't need two systems that do the same thing? Why would anyone own an XL and regular system?
Because US customers would have all returned the thing and Nintendo would have to deal with mopping up their retailer relationships.
Well, I said theoretically.
Glass Rebel
Member
I personally don't know anybody who traded in their GameBoy for a GameBoy Colour or their GameBoy Colour for a GameBoy Advance or their GameBoy Advance for...
Yeah, if there's one thing people tend to have multiples of, it's Nintendo handhelds.
Personally I have 2 GB/Cs, 3 GBAs (1 original, 2 SPs), 3 DSes (original/Lite/DSi)
I have a 3DS and plan on getting an XL and also plan on getting a DSi XL. nintendo's got me good ._.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Neat, how about passing the savings down to us then
?(or like you said use mini or micro USB)
Frankfurter
Member
They really should have included a cable with USB on the other end. No charger, just USB to either charge via a USB port or via a USB charger (that 90%+ of the people actually do own, in contrast to a 3DS/DSi/DSi XL charger). Cable would have cost them ~0 and they wouldn't have needed different boxes for different chargers.