SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
Hmm... I just turned frameSmoothing off. Maybe you need to leave it on. Or maybe there's some other weirdness. I remember Homefront and Chivalry both peaking at 90fps.
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Best gaming monitor
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Hey let me drop a question on you.
I can do this, but when I use "3D mode" with the 3D turned off, I get weird horizontal lines that seem mostly fixated on the top right of my screen. Is there anyway to fix that?
It's as if the lines start there, and subtly disappear as you get further away.
Is there any way to fix that?
It looks similar to this. Look at the top right corner of the image.
Also, I was reading about the monitors you've been posting about, and they said they recommend a better DVI cable to be able to push out the higher resolution/hz picture.
Does the quality of the cable matter beyond "dual link DVI" or "DVI".
I've been using the DVI cable that came with my monitor, but I do some 120hz gaming or 4k downsampled gaming, so would having a "better" cable allow me to push higher resolutions, or higher frame rates at downsampled resolutions?
Finally, if a better cable would help, any one that you recommend?
Thanks for reading this response.
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Just want to be clear before I go ahead and buy a monitor. So you are saying there is no reason to invest in a 120hz display if you will not be playing games at 120fps?
I suppose it's possible you could have interference that would clear up with a better cable. But every input format has a bandwidth limit. That's the reason you need dual link DVI for 120hz. Because the old DVI didn't have enough bandwidth. Conversely, dual link is close to its limit. I think it has enough bandwidth to support 1920*1200@120hz or 1920*1080@144hz. To go above that requires something like display port.
But technically, all D-DVI cables should be able to drive the monitor. It's the whole point of the D-DVI format. The bandwidth to support it.
Oh man I hadn't even thought about display port. Next graphics card update I gotta make sure has a display port on it to see if I can eventually push 1440p at 120hz if I do scaling on the GPU.
Bought this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005BZNDS0/?tag=neogaf0e-20
panel on a whim and didn't realize it was TN. The viewing angle are really, really bad
I am going to return it to Amazon and get something else. What would be a good 24" alternative? It seems like I should go IPS but that will probably cost me another $200 right?
panel on a whim and didn't realize it was TN. The viewing angle are really, really bad
I am going to return it to Amazon and get something else. What would be a good 24" alternative? It seems like I should go IPS but that will probably cost me another $200 right?
I cannot decide between these 3:
ASUS VS239H-P
Asus VH238H
VS247H-P
I'd get the 239 but I am scarred of IPS bleeding and weak blacks. There is no graphical imperfection that annoys me as much as grey blacks.
How do the blacks and bleeding compare to the other two?
As for the other two, I am not sure what the difference is between them. The only thing I can see is the 247 is newer, an inch bigger, and does not have built in speakers.
Also on a semi-related note, if I was hooking a monitor to a console, how would I adjust the volume of my headphones/speakers without having some sort of receiver? (these monitors all have headphone jacks) Yeah I am no audiophile.
bagh, monitor shopping is complicated.
ASUS VS239H-P
Asus VH238H
VS247H-P
I'd get the 239 but I am scarred of IPS bleeding and weak blacks. There is no graphical imperfection that annoys me as much as grey blacks.
How do the blacks and bleeding compare to the other two?
As for the other two, I am not sure what the difference is between them. The only thing I can see is the 247 is newer, an inch bigger, and does not have built in speakers.
Also on a semi-related note, if I was hooking a monitor to a console, how would I adjust the volume of my headphones/speakers without having some sort of receiver? (these monitors all have headphone jacks) Yeah I am no audiophile.
bagh, monitor shopping is complicated.
So 6 pages in, what is the unanimous best gaming monitor available?
My preferences:
1: imagine quality
2: connections ( hdmi)
I want it to be 1080p/ 60HZ but won't mind it being higher.
Also, would a 27' be a good idea for pc gaming and general internet browsing? Will 1080p look good on it?
My preferences:
1: imagine quality
2: connections ( hdmi)
I want it to be 1080p/ 60HZ but won't mind it being higher.
Also, would a 27' be a good idea for pc gaming and general internet browsing? Will 1080p look good on it?
crazyjah2003
Member
I recently got a very cheap 350 iirc Auria 27" 1440p IPS Screen and I am dancing on heaven. Playing Galaxy in 1440p because of the recent thread, just met Yoshi.
I thought the thread about the Korean 1440p screen was a lot more convincing than the 120hz thread. I ordered a 144hz screen, canceled it the next day to pick up the Auria. There are 120hz screens in the same line I think.
You should check out the Dolphin thread. A lot of really great stuff in there.
Also, those 1440p IPS monitors are really alluring but I feel like it would be irresponsible of me to buy one.
I'd have to see it in person first I think.
crazyjah2003
Member
Irresponsible... this Auria I got is 200 bucks cheaper than the usual 1440 IPS. Microcenter carried them, refurbished. I checked their website and they are all gone. Somebody on the Korean screen thread bought one for 250 bucks... those are worth 500-600 to me.
This thread convinced me to cancel shipping of another screen.
A Black Falcon
Member
So, my good old CRT monitor died. It was a normal Dell 17", but it worked as my main monitor for 12 1/2 years... but now won't turn on. It's too bad. It'd been having some flickering problems so I'm not totally surprised, but it's unfortunate. (I was running both monitors, whcih were both 17" 4:3 monitors, at 1024x768, with the CRT at 100hz and the LCD at 75hz. But now that I have only one screen for a while, I bumped it up to 1280x1024, in order to get a bit more space. Everything is a little too small, but it's better than one small screen...)
So, now I'm down to just this one really mediocre Dell LCD from about '05; it's 4:3 and VGA, not DVI, so it doesn't have any of the additions of newer monitors, but does have the weak, lifeless colors I expect from LCDs. Comparing a picture on both was just sad, for the LCD... sure, with the CRT off it looks okay, but when you compared them, it wasn't even close, color-wise.
So yeah, I really need to get something before I start thinking that this thing actually looks okay, and so that I can have two monitors again -- I badly miss it! But what do I get... it'd be nice to have a 16:9 monitor, since most video content and some games are 16:9 now. But what one... I really have no idea. And ideally I want a CRT too, since I imagine no LCD could match it entirely, but those aren't as easy to find now as I'd like. Ah well.
(I was running both monitors, whcih were both 17" 4:3 monitors, at 1024x768, with the CRT at 100hz and the LCD at 75hz. But now that I have only one screen for a while, I bumped it up to 1280x1024, in order to get a bit more space. Everything is a little too small, but it's better than one small screen...)So, now I'm down to just this one really mediocre Dell LCD from about '05; it's 4:3 and VGA, not DVI, so it doesn't have any of the additions of newer monitors, but does have the weak, lifeless colors I expect from LCDs. Comparing a picture on both was just sad, for the LCD... sure, with the CRT off it looks okay, but when you compared them, it wasn't even close, color-wise.
So yeah, I really need to get something before I start thinking that this thing actually looks okay, and so that I can have two monitors again -- I badly miss it! But what do I get... it'd be nice to have a 16:9 monitor, since most video content and some games are 16:9 now. But what one... I really have no idea. And ideally I want a CRT too, since I imagine no LCD could match it entirely, but those aren't as easy to find now as I'd like. Ah well.
krameriffic
Member
That's a gif of me shooting you in the head in Counterstrike because of your 60Hz monitor.
going from 60 fps on PC to 30 on consoles is bad enough, I cant even imagine what 120 would be like...
One of the reason I don't want to try it ( main being you would need some high high end hardware or lower graphical setting in games to get 120 fps in most modern games)
Also is it possible to use 1080p on a 2,560 x 1,440 monitor and if so would it look bad? How much of an effect does 2,560 x 1,440 have on games compared to 1080p?
One of the reason I don't want to try it ( main being you would need some high high end hardware or lower graphical setting in games to get 120 fps in most modern games)
Also is it possible to use 1080p on a 2,560 x 1,440 monitor and if so would it look bad? How much of an effect does 2,560 x 1,440 have on games compared to 1080p?
SneakyStephan
Banned
As shitty as TN panels are, IPS is even worse when it comes to response time and input lag, they are wholly unsuited for gaming unless you like to game at what looks like upscaled 800x600 (the actual motion resolution of these things)
IPS panels are for browsing and working, not for gaming.
Also I know how you feel black falcon, my crt has been dying for 6 months and I'm still using it till the day it stops working (got some feint horizontal lines at the top cm of my screen and what looks like static interference for half a second once or twice a day)
I just dread having to replace it with some blurry piece of shit lcd that can't do dark scenes and that has ugly overblown colors.
Gaming on my ps3 (dragon's dogma) the past week and I hate having to use my TV for gaming, it's so jarring every time I swap from my monitor to my tv
Life is all about making mistakes and learning from them. This is a good one to take a lesson from.
For editing photos/video, scrolling through databases, and programming, sure.
Not for gaming though. IPS feel wonky and sluggish. At least the ACD and Crossover 27Q did.
zombipuppy
Member
I'm sorry, but IPS >>> 120Hz any day.
Also when talking about best gaming monitor you can either go 27" or 30".
Dell 30"
Dell 27"
Respectfully disagree. Though an IPS with decent response time AND 120hz would be bliss.
This is a crosspost but i was wondering about 120hz, i mean there is no way you can have 120fps in new games with settings on max without something like a titan (or maybe sli if you go crysis 3).
So whats the deal ?
everyone who has a 120hz is only playing old games
or are tuning down serious settings to get more fps (wich is a big no-no for me)
OR has a sick rig
So whats the deal ?
everyone who has a 120hz is only playing old games
or are tuning down serious settings to get more fps (wich is a big no-no for me)
OR has a sick rig
There's relatively few games that can't be maxed out at 120 fps with modern hardware. You're pretty much talking about the beast engine games. Then you just turn a setting or two down for a relatively minor hit in fidelity for a huge jump in motion fidelity.
Ultimately, rendering graphics is about creating the illusion of motion. Having 8.3ms frametimes goes much further towards achieving that than a bit of AA does.
Interesting point, not sure if i can look at TN panels tho after being getting so used to IPS.
They're worth it for 120Hz, not so much for 3D Gaming.
Probably anyone going for 120Hz monitor is hardcore enough to already own a SLI config.
I'm not 100% sure but console ports are most likely to get 120fps on a single card also also Crysis 2 & 3 can reach 120fps on closed enviroments.
I bought this monitor last week. Games look awesome on it. I haven't had any issues with the 7ms response time, either.
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
I'm sorry, but IPS >>> 120Hz any day.
Also when talking about best gaming monitor you can either go 27" or 30".
Dell 30"
Dell 27"
I've been using a 144hz monitor for awhile. I wouldn't go back to 60hz if they paid me.
MidgarBlowedUp
Member
If the Sony OLED's keep coming down in price that will be my CRT replacement.
Mine feels great. I can play all the rhythm games I want and not miss a beat.
BloodMoney
Banned
Eizo Flexscan
LMAO. We use these overpriced monitors at work.
zombipuppy
Member
I also grew to love mine, even though the color reproduction is far from the best. If you have any good settings that show deep blacks well, let me know!
Also, love the Oney avatar!
That is unless you are using the nvidia trick to get almost zero motion blur on 3D monitors that use a strobed backlight.
At that point it is a question of picking between superior functionality OR crushingly better color reproduction.
http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1038713442&postcount=86
I tried a lot of setting this one suit me best, hope it works for you.
I wouldn't say crushingly. As long as you are comparing matte to matte, TN panels do fine. It's the angles that kill it. It's not hard to properly adjust your monitor to your face though.
Keep in mind that not all TN panels are the same. There are TN panels that do an amazing job at color reproduction, like the Samsung S23A series as well as the ASUS VG248QE.
So you're saying you don't game while hanging upside down on a trapeze swing?
I'm not sure if that makes you a member of the master race or not a member of the master race. Nonetheless, I approve of this message.
I have yet to try 120hz, though I just bought another 1440p that is supposedly overclockable to 120hz. However I can't imagine going back to 1080p after using 1440p for this long. Text just looks so much better, webpages in general just look so much better. Then of course games look even crisper. Only problem with 1440p is a similar problem you will have with 120hz and that's the increased hardware requirement to truly enjoy it with everything still maxed out.
I use this one. There's a little bit of bleeding, but nothing too bad. The biggest problem I have is that it has a bad vertical viewing angle. Basically if you slouch below the screen it will appear faded. If you plan on basically being on its level while you play its a great screen.
You should try both, definitely.
It sucks that we have to make a decision between 1440p and 1080p right now. But, I think 120Hz wins out every time. The smoothness and general snappiness it brings to everything even outside of games is well worth the reduction in resolution.
It's really subjective, but I think there are more people who will appreciate the improved illusion of motion more than increased IQ. If you are the downsampling/high AA image quality obsessed person, then 1440p is probably the way to go.
It sucks that we have to make a decision between 1440p and 1080p right now. But, I think 120Hz wins out every time. The smoothness and general snappiness it brings to everything even outside of games is well worth the reduction in resolution.
It's really subjective, but I think there are more people who will appreciate the improved illusion of motion more than increased IQ. If you are the downsampling/high AA image quality obsessed person, then 1440p is probably the way to go.
People can also pay or dematte certain panels themselves and gain a decent improvement in how colors come off. TN panels can never come close to really good IPS but to be fair you're not paying a lot for your preferred form of performance.
asus-vg248qe is just bad ass. One of the few monitors known to do Lightboost 120hz and give a sense of motion that is just untouched in flat panels.
Response times don't match TN, but there are IPS monitors out there with basically 0 input lag. I use one. You just need to get one which doesn't do any signal processing.
Anyway, the best gaming monitor is probably a 120 Hz 2560x1440 IPS. It's too bad that they are no longer making them.
I have a 120hz monitor and the 3D is my absolute favorite part about it. Playing games in proper 3D is truly a sight to behold.
Definitely true.
mkenyon = good at games
Smokey = scrub tier bruh
I keep seeing those OC models on Overlord pop back up, but every time I've gathered the funds to try one out, they're out of stock. I need a 120Hz user on GAF to buy one of these and give me a report. Where's Sk3tch when you need him.